Fronts don't quite fit, options?

Cheeze1 · 06-08-2014, 06:49 PM

Today I mounted RGRs from my e36 and the fronts don't quite fit. What options might I have? The fronts are 18 x 8, 35mm offset - currently on 235/40 tire.

When I put them on, the tire was pretty close to the shock but definitely clear. It would rotate freely while off the ground. When I took it out for a slow drive there was a tiny, but definitive vibration which sure felt like something very minor rubbing, but upon taking the wheel off again I could find no signs of rubbing anywhere.

That aside, it most certainly is rubbing badly on the outside edge of the tire over bigger bumps. Below are some pictures of the fitment, and you can see the white marks on the outside edge from the rubbing.

What options might I have here? Would dropping to a 225 size tire definitely solve the issue? What about camber plates (and while still under factory warranty)? I'd really love to make these work because they look fantastic, and if I can't get it to work then I'll be forced to buy a new set of wheels ($$) because of current circumstances. Any help would be tremendously appreciated!!

Fitment (and tire scuffs after first pic):

Overall look,

135Pats · 06-08-2014, 07:31 PM

That's rough if you are rubbing like that at stock ride height. Space to the fender up front is a bad joke.

Not many options here...Drop down width in the tire but even then...that's a lot of poke to begin with.

justanothrone · 06-08-2014, 07:58 PM

225 would not be a problem. OEM is a 215 on a 7.5 so a 225 on an 8 inch wide wheel will work fine. You may even want to try 215 on the 18x8. Your rims aren't going to be rubbing the strut at 35et. Add 1-1.5 degree of negative camber and you won't have to worry about any fender rolling.

Eyeman · 06-08-2014, 10:33 PM

Many run wheels of that dimension on our cars. They add a little camber if they want to run slightly stretched tires. They add more camber if they want to run wider tires.

Pull the pins and maybe try some of the twist in spring separators they sell at Autozone for now until you get a chance to do more.

3002 tii · 06-08-2014, 11:58 PM

Run 225's and add some camber up front.

chris82 · 06-09-2014, 10:31 AM

Perhaps with a little more camber they will fit? A set of Ground Control or other quality brand camber plates will run you ~$400. It's not like that money is "wasted" if that doesn't do the trick.

Kgolf31 · 06-09-2014, 10:35 AM

I run a 17x8.5 ET40 w/a 5mm Spacer (so ET35) with a 245/40 Dunlop ZII Tire.

I have -3.6* Camber and lowered around 1.5". I have no problems with front fitment. I do rub on sudden bumps during autocrossing under high compression

VMRWheels · 06-09-2014, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 3002 tii

Run 225's and add some camber up front.

This.

Ginger_Extract · 06-09-2014, 06:56 PM

You need camber. The Dinan plates by themselves should be enough to get that particular setup to fit. If you want to go wider in the future, pick up some Vorshlag plates, and get ready to roll fenders.

Cheeze1 · 06-10-2014, 08:40 AM

Thanks all. Going under the knife on Thursday for camber plates and 225s.

kobeballer96 · 06-11-2014, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Cheeze1

Thanks all. Going under the knife on Thursday for camber plates and 225s.

Just do the camber plates and roll the fender a little bit. No need to spend more money on two new tires lol

kobeballer96 · 06-11-2014, 01:36 AM

This my front 225 tire. Et38. I rub too on harsh compression on the track but that's about it and it's not that bad, that's with no camber plate or pin pulled and no fender rolling. The car is lowered too. So you getting the camber plates and rolling a little bit you should be fine man.

kobeballer96 · 06-11-2014, 01:38 AM

Compressed, sorry not the best picture I'll try to find a better one.

Cheeze1 · 06-11-2014, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by kobeballer96

Just do the camber plates and roll the fender a little bit. No need to spend more money on two new tires lol

I don't want to mess with the fenders, the tires on there are relatively old anyways, and I also want to get the TPM sensors installed as well, so four new Michelin Pilot A/S 3's for me.

What is a reasonable time (hours) to have a shop install the camber plates? 4 hours?

vma1788 · 06-11-2014, 03:02 PM

Camber plates up front should fit those 235s no problem.

Damn those RGRs look good!

kobeballer96 · 06-11-2014, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cheeze1

I don't want to mess with the fenders, the tires on there are relatively old anyways, and I also want to get the TPM sensors installed as well, so four new Michelin Pilot A/S 3's for me.

What is a reasonable time (hours) to have a shop install the camber plates? 4 hours?

Maybe two hours if they know what they are doing or 3 tops.

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Cheeze1 Private First Class 28 Rep 129 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: United States iTrader: (0)	Fronts don't quite fit, options? Today I mounted RGRs from my e36 and the fronts don't quite fit. What options might I have? The fronts are 18 x 8, 35mm offset - currently on 235/40 tire. When I put them on, the tire was pretty close to the shock but definitely clear. It would rotate freely while off the ground. When I took it out for a slow drive there was a tiny, but definitive vibration which sure felt like something very minor rubbing, but upon taking the wheel off again I could find no signs of rubbing anywhere. That aside, it most certainly is rubbing badly on the outside edge of the tire over bigger bumps. Below are some pictures of the fitment, and you can see the white marks on the outside edge from the rubbing. What options might I have here? Would dropping to a 225 size tire definitely solve the issue? What about camber plates (and while still under factory warranty)? I'd really love to make these work because they look fantastic, and if I can't get it to work then I'll be forced to buy a new set of wheels ($$) because of current circumstances. Any help would be tremendously appreciated!! Fitment (and tire scuffs after first pic): Overall look,
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135Pats Major General 456 Rep 6,478 Posts Drives: A few BMWs Join Date: May 2012 Location: Maryland iTrader: (3)	That's rough if you are rubbing like that at stock ride height. Space to the fender up front is a bad joke. Not many options here...Drop down width in the tire but even then...that's a lot of poke to begin with. __________________ E88 N54 Alpinweiss/Coral Red/Motiv HTA 3586r Tial .82AR/Other stuff...652WHP F30 N55 XDrive EBII
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justanothrone Private First Class 10 Rep 133 Posts Drives: Car Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: USA iTrader: (2)	225 would not be a problem. OEM is a 215 on a 7.5 so a 225 on an 8 inch wide wheel will work fine. You may even want to try 215 on the 18x8. Your rims aren't going to be rubbing the strut at 35et. Add 1-1.5 degree of negative camber and you won't have to worry about any fender rolling.
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Kgolf31 Brigadier General 460 Rep 4,531 Posts Drives: 2007 Z4MC, 2012 128i Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Ohio iTrader: (4)	I run a 17x8.5 ET40 w/a 5mm Spacer (so ET35) with a 245/40 Dunlop ZII Tire. I have -3.6* Camber and lowered around 1.5". I have no problems with front fitment. I do rub on sudden bumps during autocrossing under high compression
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Cheeze1 Private First Class 28 Rep 129 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: United States iTrader: (0)	Thanks all. Going under the knife on Thursday for camber plates and 225s.
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kobeballer96 Major 175 Rep 1,491 Posts Drives: 6SPD E82 Join Date: May 2013 Location: North Carolina iTrader: (4)	This my front 225 tire. Et38. I rub too on harsh compression on the track but that's about it and it's not that bad, that's with no camber plate or pin pulled and no fender rolling. The car is lowered too. So you getting the camber plates and rolling a little bit you should be fine man. __________________ Black Wrapped Roof, BFG Rivals, Dinan Camber plates, M3 Steering wheel, Matte Black kidney Grills, H&R Sport springs, Sparco assetto gara,Pagid sport Brakepads,STOPTECH Slotted Rotors, DISA STG3,EURO BOX
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vma1788 First Lieutenant 58 Rep 321 Posts Drives: E36s, 997, CT9a, AP1, F31 Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Long Beach, CA iTrader: (4)	Camber plates up front should fit those 235s no problem. Damn those RGRs look good!
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