Brembo Pro Series BBK

[JAJ]

Has anyone on this board had a look at or installed one of these?

http://www.brembo.com/en/News/Pages/...ES-Casted.aspx

The kits are 355mm rotor diameter and the calipers are racing calipers (they look a lot like XA4.D3's with 40/44 pistons) with no dust boots and the ability to use pads in various depths up to 1" thick. Pads are relatively cheap as well, since real race teams gobble them up by the truckload. You can also tune the thermal characteristics with different rotors - either 48 or 72 vanes, widths in your choice of 32 or 35 mm.

These are not consumer kits in any sense. They will require a lot more maintenance than a GT kit, and they really aren't suitable for daily driving, even if you can get street pads for them.

They would be attractive for hard-core track day use, though. The Pro kit for my Mustang GT is about $4,000 for the front axle, which puts it right in there with the Brembo GT street kits and well under the Brembo GTR kits.

[Gearhead999s]

Did you notice who Brembo owns?

http://www.brembo.com/en/il-gruppo/M...s/default.aspx

[PINHEAD]

Originally Posted by Gearhead999s

Did you notice who Brembo owns?

http://www.brembo.com/en/il-gruppo/M...s/default.aspx

wow they own sabelt..didnt know that

[disapr]

Nice find.

Brembo has a nice portfolio of great companies

[JAJ]

Originally Posted by Gearhead999s

Did you notice who Brembo owns?

http://www.brembo.com/en/il-gruppo/M...s/default.aspx

Sorry, but I'm not getting your drift on this one... I know that Brembo SA owns AP Racing, but this kit is a pure Brembo Racing (not GT) product. The components don't cross to the AP Racing catalog, but you can find most of them in Brembo's Racing Components catalog.

For the serious track junkie that doesn't have to contend with road salt, this kit looks pretty interesting. I found it while I was studying brake upgrades for my Mustang.

If I were going to put a Pro kit on an M3 without ducts, I'd install 355x35mm 72 vane rotors. With front ducts, 355x32mm 48 vane rotors would knock about 3-4 pounds off the unsprung weight on each corner. The neat thing about the Pro kit is that you can switch rotors without changing anything else - the calipers, brackets and hats all work either way.

[RickyBobby]

Very cool. I've seen similar AP kits starting to surface as well for evos.

[aus]

Funny how a two piece caliper with a removable bridge is OK for the track caliper, but Brembo swears the one piece caliper is better for the street???

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[JAJ]

The two-piece racing caliper is pretty rigid. What doesn't come across in the picture is the sheer scale of the thing. While it's "only" a 4 piston unit, it's 10" long (as long as most 6 piston street calipers) and it's 6" wide, about 3/4" wider than most street caliper (to accomodate the thicker pads). It doesn't have a bridge either - just a quick release retaining spring to keep the pads from falling out.

[Jaypod]

Nice find. Nice looking kit. That retaining spring would make for quick pad changes!

[Gearhead999s]

Originally Posted by JAJ

Sorry, but I'm not getting your drift on this one... I know that Brembo SA owns AP Racing, but this kit is a pure Brembo Racing (not GT) product. The components don't cross to the AP Racing catalog, but you can find most of them in Brembo's Racing Components catalog.

For the serious track junkie that doesn't have to contend with road salt, this kit looks pretty interesting. I found it while I was studying brake upgrades for my Mustang.

If I were going to put a Pro kit on an M3 without ducts, I'd install 355x35mm 72 vane rotors. With front ducts, 355x32mm 48 vane rotors would knock about 3-4 pounds off the unsprung weight on each corner. The neat thing about the Pro kit is that you can switch rotors without changing anything else - the calipers, brackets and hats all work either way.

There was no drift to what I was trying to point out.I just thought it was interesting to see the associated companies of Brembo.

[JAJ]

Originally Posted by Gearhead999s

There was no drift to what I was trying to point out.I just thought it was interesting to see the associated companies of Brembo.

Ah! Thanks for explaining - it was a little too subtle for me!

[datbimmerdoe]

good find.

[mastek]

Thats cool -- but if it doesnt have AP technology in it, then it's not worth it ... as AP Racing has won more professional races with their brakes then any other brake company in the world.

There's a good reason Brembo bought them -- when you can't beat'em = buy'em

[Eugene-TAIWAN]

Originally Posted by mastek

Thats cool -- but if it doesnt have AP technology in it, then it's not worth it ... as AP Racing has won more professional races with their brakes then any other brake company in the world.

There's a good reason Brembo bought them -- when you can't beat'em = buy'em

so I guess now they also have the technology

[JAJ]

Originally Posted by mastek

Thats cool -- but if it doesnt have AP technology in it, then it's not worth it ... as AP Racing has won more professional races with their brakes then any other brake company in the world.

There's a good reason Brembo bought them -- when you can't beat'em = buy'em

I agree - AP's the king of the dual-use M3 hill if 18" rims are important.

For the folks who go to the track a lot and who aren't concerned about the lack of piston dust boots, there is a significant operating cost benefit to the Brembo Pro kit. I compared Hawk DTC-70's for the AP Racing CP5555 caliper and the Brembo Pro kit. For this popular Hawk compound, Pro kit pads cost 30% less to buy and have a 50% thicker pad compound layer. They cut your brake pad consumption cost in half. Cost savings were slightly greater for ST-60 pads and slightly less for Brembo "M" pads.