Dust on dark cars

[michelley91]

Just out of curiosity for all you people who own a dark car...what could i do about the dust on the car the next day after washing/waxing? I'm sorry if this is a repost :P!

[llis]

With all the humidity in socal, I don't know what to suggest. It seems like 1-day dust is a norm, alas, for those of us with dark cars. (I was visiting last week.)

I've been going with a Zaino regimen so far (which has gorgeous results), but have yet to do the real orbital polish treatment to deal with the microswirls, waiting until the snow lets up for good and we get consistent warmer weather here.

[Hawk Lax]

Try a good quick detailer when you dry your car after washing like fk 425. But that is part of the downside of owning a dark car is only looks really clean the day you wash it.

[cmk227]

Same problem here. Have only paid for hand wash since i got it. Have been using the California brush to clean the dust from the car.

[Envious Eric]

get a house duster and have it it on the car. it will remove the dust from your car just like dust from your house. It wont scratch, and works great! I use one when dusting a car after compounding and polishing all the time if I am not able to traditionally wash a car after the polishing work.

[e90m3_6MT]

Zymol style duster or quick detailer

[Kurohouou]

swifter duster.. hmm might try that

[ADV.1 Matt]

I always just use one of those California dusters from Girots.

[GOLFFRR]

^^I always use the Cali duster as well works great!

[eclipsisNA]

Originally Posted by Envious Eric

get a house duster and have it it on the car. it will remove the dust from your car just like dust from your house. It wont scratch, and works great! I use one when dusting a car after compounding and polishing all the time if I am not able to traditionally wash a car after the polishing work.

It will scratch the car, no two ways about it.

Never wipe dust off a car, just wait until you wash it next.

[GOLFFRR]

really? glad you told me Eric i am going to stop this right away. So the CA dusters are a no go?

[Envious Eric]

Originally Posted by Eclipsis

It will scratch the car, no two ways about it.

Never wipe dust off a car, just wait until you wash it next.

really? we are talking DUST that is not attached to the car, that can be blown off. The duster is so gentle, if you can scratch the car with it, you are using it wrong.

Califonia car duster will scratch the car no doubt, but a super soft (softer than any microfiber towel - which have a natural "grabbyness" to them) duster will do no harm...I am talking about the zymol duster, not at the $40 price tag it was advertised at, but rather the same one from OSH (local store here) that sells for 9 bucks.

[eclipsisNA]

Originally Posted by Envious Eric

The duster is so gentle, if you can scratch the car with it, you are using it wrong.

You don't know what you're talking about. Regardless of the amount of pressure applied to the paint, a duster will scratch. You're compressing dust between two objects: paint and the duster. I would love to see your "technique" applied to a jet black car and see the affects after several months.

Originally Posted by GOLFFRR

really? glad you told me Eric i am going to stop this right away. So the CA dusters are a no go?

Jim, buy a cheap air compressor and blow gun if you're looking to take dust off your car. It's strong enough to remove dust but touchless so no marring occurs:

http://www.amazon.com/Angled-Nozzle-.../dp/B000688JCW

[GOLFFRR]

^^on it right now! thanks Eric the CA duster is going in the trash tonight

[Envious Eric]

Originally Posted by Eclipsis

You don't know what you're talking about. Regardless of the amount of pressure applied to the paint, a duster will scratch. You're compressing dust between two objects: paint and the duster. I would love to see your "technique" applied to a jet black car and see the affects after several months.

I'll be sure to tell that to some of the other top detailers in the the country who use the same duster for cars before delivering them to their clients after the car sits around for a couple of days waiting for pickup! Guess they dont know what they are doing in the end, huh? LOL, how dare they be rated among the best in the industry!

Do you even realize what you just said? "no matter the pressure, a duster will scratch" - so if there is no pressure (which is how you use a duster) to "compress" the dust, then how is it harmful? explain that one...a wash is more invasive and uses more pressure than a duster will. you dont press down and scrub with a duster! The fibers in the duster are less aggressive/abrasive than those on microfiber towels and sheepskin/chenille/sponge wash media.

I would love to see the results of washing a car 20 times over 3 months vs washing it 10 times with daily dusting (not a california car duster as I have already stated, but a duster like the one phil sells...here Guaranteed less frequent washings will have less swirl marks covering the paint!

So yes, I do know what I am talking about! Thanks!

[eclipsisNA]

Originally Posted by Envious Eric

I'll be sure to tell that to some of the other top detailers in the the country who use the same duster for cars before delivering them to their clients after the car sits around for a couple of days waiting for pickup! Guess they dont know what they are doing in the end, huh? LOL, how dare they be rated among the best in the industry!

Do you even realize what you just said? "no matter the pressure, a duster will scratch" - so if there is no pressure (which is how you use a duster) to "compress" the dust, then how is it harmful? explain that one...a wash is more invasive and uses more pressure than a duster will. you dont press down and scrub with a duster! The fibers in the duster are less aggressive/abrasive than those on microfiber towels and sheepskin/chenille/sponge wash media.

I would love to see the results of washing a car 20 times over 3 months vs washing it 10 times with daily dusting (not a california car duster as I have already stated, but a duster like the one phil sells...here Guaranteed less frequent washings will have less swirl marks covering the paint!

So yes, I do know what I am talking about! Thanks!

You don't know what you're talking about. You've proven that in the time you've been on this forum. I don't care if "the most respected" detailers in the country use a duster. I've seen what they can do and I would never use one on either of my cars. To each their own though.

I've talked about this until I'm blue in the face on this forum, so I'm done.

[Envious Eric]

LOL, Ive never experienced the marring you are talking about, so apparently we have two total different experiences with it..."to each their own"

[CalgaryX3]

At the risk of putting my nose in where it's not needed, perhaps the real answer to this question is region specific. I have a CA duster, but use it only very very sparingly here in Calgary Alberta. In the winter, our roads are littered with gravel (to aid traction in the snow), and even though the gravel is swept up in the spring, our roads are very dusty throughout the year.

I would concur that using a CA duster on dust originating from gravel/sand on the roads would cause scratching, albeit at a microscopic level. In other climates, the micro-marring might not be as prevalent...

Just a thought.

Asif

[rawedge2]

MOre importantly read through this thread
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...=474666&page=2
Post #26 on..

[CalgaryX3]

Originally Posted by rawedge2

MOre importantly read through this thread
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...=474666&page=2
Post #26 on..

My point(s) exactly!

A

[Joonsup]

The only duster I've used before is the CA duster and it left light scratches on my car over time so I tossed mine out. The color of the car I used it on was black so it was noticeable. I'm sure on a lighter colored car it will be harder to see but from my experience the CA duster is a no go. I've never tried any other duster so I can't comment on those

[BMRLVR]

Originally Posted by Envious Eric

I'll be sure to tell that to some of the other top detailers in the the country who use the same duster for cars before delivering them to their clients after the car sits around for a couple of days waiting for pickup! Guess they dont know what they are doing in the end, huh? LOL, how dare they be rated among the best in the industry!

Do you even realize what you just said? "no matter the pressure, a duster will scratch" - so if there is no pressure (which is how you use a duster) to "compress" the dust, then how is it harmful? explain that one...a wash is more invasive and uses more pressure than a duster will. you dont press down and scrub with a duster! The fibers in the duster are less aggressive/abrasive than those on microfiber towels and sheepskin/chenille/sponge wash media.

I would love to see the results of washing a car 20 times over 3 months vs washing it 10 times with daily dusting (not a california car duster as I have already stated, but a duster like the one phil sells...here Guaranteed less frequent washings will have less swirl marks covering the paint!

So yes, I do know what I am talking about! Thanks!

No, you don't know what you are talking about. Anyone that tells a person that it is ok to dust their car in between washing is totally clueless. Never, ever, ever, ever, ever use any sort of duster or cloth on your paint in between washes period. the only time you should wipe down your car is after a wash, I even use a lubricant when drying to prevent scratches.

Oh yeah, as for "top detailers in the country", if I found out I paid good money for someone to detail my car and they used a duster on the paint dry after it sat around for a couple of days I would never employ their services again. In my book anyone that would do this is not a top detailer and is just doing it for the money because someone to do this takes no pride in their work, it is just wrong.

Just for your information, most dust is made up of silica and silica is an extremely hard substance and is used as a component in many abrasives. So do you think dragging silica across your paint which is effectively sandpaper is a good thing? No matter how little pressure I used I would never wipe my car down with sandpaper!

P.S.: I don't know of too many detailers that are much better than Eric (Eclipsis)..... his work speaks for itself!