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      01-17-2011, 12:24 AM   #1
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I have been using this duster for a while but just recently I started to wonder if the duster will leave scratches on the vehicle since it locks the dirt on it. The duster does hold on to dirt efficiently but I am just afraid that eventually that every fiber becomes a dust cluster and scratches the car badly...

Also, What about California Car Duster Company? Does it have any other efficient cleaning product? I have been looking for the best way to dry my car after wash, currently adopting the absorber, aka rubber cloth. not as absorbing as I imagine but I am sure it does not leave scratches.
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      01-17-2011, 01:49 AM   #2
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I have been using this duster for a while but just recently I started to wonder if the duster will leave scratches on the vehicle since it locks the dirt on it. The duster does hold on to dirt efficiently but I am just afraid that eventually that every fiber becomes a dust cluster and scratches the car badly...

Also, What about California Car Duster Company? Does it have any other efficient cleaning product? I have been looking for the best way to dry my car after wash, currently adopting the absorber, aka rubber cloth. not as absorbing as I imagine but I am sure it does not leave scratches.
You are right with your fears of the California Car Duster scratching your car. I'd stop using it now if I were you. It is not a good idea to run anything over the car dry when it is dusty. I'd recommend ONR or some kind of detailer spray and a microfibre if you must dust the car. To be honest I don't dust my car at all, I just leave the dust on my car until I wash it the next time. Dusting just leads to swirls and scratches IMO.

As for drying your car..... I'd get rid of the absorber and just start using microfibre towels. Wash the towels after every time you dry your car.......... using anything multiple times to dry the car like a chamois, absorber, etc. is also a recipe for scratches.
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      01-17-2011, 10:58 AM   #3
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I'd toss the absorber and invest in some waffle weave drying towels to prevent scratching the paint when drying your car. The california duster works well in my opinion...the first time you use it when there's a thin layer of dust on your car and your car has been detailed recently. But I'm worried about the dust/dirt getting trapped in the hairs of the duster which will end up causing scratched to your paint.

I have a couple of these I use for my car.

http://detailaddict.com/microfiber/d...ber-towel.html
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      01-20-2011, 05:43 PM   #4
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i highly doubt it would scratch the paint
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^ Well I DON'T doubt it will scratch your paint. If there's nowhere for a dust/dirt particle to go, it is being trapped between your clear-coat and whatever you're using.
I completely agree with Nick of Detail Addict's comment.
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      01-21-2011, 08:18 AM   #6
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I have one and have never used it because I cant see how it couldnt scratch. I'd rather leave it dusty and just wash it when I can.
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i have one and it has never scratched the car.
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Yes, it does scratch the paint, that why I have stopped using it. I live in a new subdivision, perhaps larger dust particles contributed to the scratches when I used it?
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CA duster works for me, probably dependent on the source of the dust (i.e how gritty it is"). Mine in garage is a light fine layer.
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If your storing over the winter and it gets dusty just get a good car cover to put on it, Ive been using one for several years and when I take it off car is still shiny. If its during the summer though and has been sitting for a few days or weeks I usually just blow it off with a leaf blower
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I have been using this duster for a while but just recently I started to wonder if the duster will leave scratches on the vehicle since it locks the dirt on it. The duster does hold on to dirt efficiently but I am just afraid that eventually that every fiber becomes a dust cluster and scratches the car badly...
Don't do it.....it will do nothing but ultimately induce new scratches on your paint each and every time you use it!

I would save your duster for cleaning off the work bench!

Depending on how much fresh contaminants have settled on your vehicles paint work, you are better off using a mist and wipe or rinseless product on your vehicle. Performed regularly and properly this will leave awesome results with very little effort.

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Also, What about California Car Duster Company? Does it have any other efficient cleaning product? I have been looking for the best way to dry my car after wash, currently adopting the absorber, aka rubber cloth. not as absorbing as I imagine but I am sure it does not leave scratches.
IMO the best way to dry a vehicle after washing it is using an SM Arnold Water Sprite, those Absorbers are to rubbery and do not soak up the water very well as you stated... A premium quality MF towel works well, but will not have the life expectancy of the Water Sprite.

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      01-25-2011, 10:18 AM   #12
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Looks like we have a bit debate over the CA duster.

Anyway, I appreciate all the inputs on cleaning/drying the car. I used to use the MF towel to do most of the cleaning & drying until I realize that the texture on the towel is somehow "harsh." I was using those yellow MF towels like the link below:

http://************/4tg3ohj

Or I was using the wrong MF towel?

I would also love to be educated about the pros and cons about absorbers. Besides the soaking capability which I have experienced myself, does it leave any scratch?
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Looks like we have a bit debate over the CA duster.

Anyway, I appreciate all the inputs on cleaning/drying the car. I used to use the MF towel to do most of the cleaning & drying until I realize that the texture on the towel is somehow "harsh." I was using those yellow MF towels like the link below:

http://************/4tg3ohj

Or I was using the wrong MF towel?

I would also love to be educated about the pros and cons about absorbers. Besides the soaking capability which I have experienced myself, does it leave any scratch?
Absorbers are much like car dusters or water blades / jelly blades: it's not the material they're made out of that will scratch, it's any particle that is trapped that can potentially cause damage.
Absorbers soak up a TON of water for their size, but they're construction means there is nowhere for a particle to go if trapped between the synthetic material and your paint. They only way to potentially use it in a safe manner is to blot dry. While blotting is the preferred safest method with all drying materials (one that aren't blowers or compressed air), it takes much longer and thus people aren't as likely to do it.

If you think you can remove a true 100% of particles when washing your car, then no problem. I'm not quite that bold however.
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Not a fan of the "Dust Mop". I've definitely seen it cause micro marring especially on soft paint like what is used on modern BMW's.
Whatever time you might save using one will come back on you big time when you have to do paint correction with a random orbital.

For dust free storage I've found nothing better than a Dustop car cover. I use one after detailing my car so that when I go to drive it for the first time after detailing it still looks perfect.

In between detailing I just let it get dirty/dusty, but I try to wash every weekend weather permitting.

For drying I start by sheeting most of the water off by flowing water straight from the end of the garden hose over the entire car working top down. Then I use a leaf blower to remove standing water from the wheel wells, wheels and nooks and crannies to help prevent hard water spotting.

I finish with a waffle weave microfiber cloth and a light touch, but a key tip here is to spritz each panel with whatever Quick Detail product you prefer (I use Zaino) to add some lubricant between the paint and the cloth.
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What's an Arnold Water Sprite??
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      03-20-2011, 10:21 AM   #17
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I have one and have never used it because I cant see how it couldnt scratch. I'd rather leave it dusty and just wash it when I can.
i have one and so far after 100 uses no scratches
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HaHa, c'mon man, i was being lazy!
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