TPMS Pricing Rant/Question

KingOfJericho · 10-19-2010, 07:32 AM

I have a 2010 135 which is obviously equipped with TPMS. When I purchased my winter setup last year, which included the TPMS, I paid $196 for all 4 including the valve stems. Now why is it that every aftermarket wheel company aside from tirerack is charging $400+ for 2010+ TPMS while 2008-09 cars are only being charged ~$200? Tirerack makes no distinction between the model years and they work flawlessly. What gives?

KingOfJericho · 10-19-2010, 11:04 AM

Nobody can shed any light on this?

Gary@TireRack · 10-19-2010, 12:27 PM

I'll take a guess. BMW changed sensors in some models in the '10 or '11 model year. The 1 series was not affected by that change but some folks may be charging as if it was.

That's one guys guess.

* For example the '09 M3 coupe uses a different sensor than the '10

dicker · 10-19-2010, 12:30 PM

So the 135i uses the same TPMS from 08 even on the 2011? I know the E90's switched over in 2010.

That's awesome news for me as I was dreading the extra money for the newer ones.

Gary@TireRack · 10-19-2010, 12:35 PM

There's not much price difference in the sensors (initially I think it was a big difference) but they are different in some models.

The 135's are all using the same sensors '08-'11.

KingOfJericho · 10-19-2010, 12:40 PM

I've brought this up to a vendor on this site and they insisted that they were different. Some are actually charging $450 for TPMS. That's the cost of 2 tires! It's pretty shocking that they've been able to get away with it thus far...

Gary@TireRack · 10-19-2010, 01:20 PM

Interesting. I've not shopped any other vendors for the sensors, nor do I know what any of them price the TPMS sensors at. What others pay for the parts will also influence what they sell them for. My comments were regarding the retail market in general and what could have happened in any given instance.

KingOfJericho · 10-19-2010, 01:37 PM

I'm just going to order the setup as if I have a 2009.

miiipilot · 10-19-2010, 04:46 PM

I asked Gill this exact question. Because I don't like the racks wheel choices. I wanted to get some VMR wheels and all the sites offering these wheels charge $400+ for TPMS. He said they are the same TPMS. You can buy the TPMS from www.tirerack.com and then order the wheels elsewhere. I know...I know...I wanted a one-stop-shop myself too. Plus having them installed already But $200 is $200 savings for the same damn TMPS

miiipilot

KingOfJericho · 10-19-2010, 07:32 PM

Did you read the thread? Just order them as if it were a 2009 and you can have your one stop shopping. Remember, there is NO DIFFERENCE.

ralawren · 10-24-2010, 08:03 PM

I am running the 433mz TPMS from Tire Rack on my 2010 128i with no issues. Car was built Oct 2010.

powerbulge · 10-24-2010, 09:03 PM

Great information - saves me $200. Thanks!

Mr. Clarkson · 10-24-2010, 09:09 PM

They switched to a different receiver setup for 2011 at least. The sensors are different as well, but older sensors might still work regardless. I was quoted $66 per sensor for the newest Beru units being used on 2011 models.

1seriesfan · 10-24-2010, 10:48 PM

For our 2011 128, I just ordered the 433 MHz sensors as that was what was offered on the Tirerack site. They were $200, there was no alternative shown on the site. Perhaps your 135's use different sensors? Wouldn't think so...

BBBluey · 10-25-2010, 12:35 AM

I just saw someone on the for sale section selling these sensors for $35 each.

Jump on them quick!

ZIPNBYE · 10-25-2010, 06:49 AM

You poor saps...required by federal law to have in-wheel sensors (thank you Ford!). Despite having to guess which wheel is flat (when we had RFT's on the car), I'm very happy to have a system that simply uses the ABS / TCS to figure out when one wheel's turning quicker (ie: low pressure) than another and not have silly expensive sensors.

Tom K. · 10-25-2010, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZIPNBYE

You poor saps...required by federal law to have in-wheel sensors (thank you Ford!). Despite having to guess which wheel is flat (when we had RFT's on the car), I'm very happy to have a system that simply uses the ABS / TCS to figure out when one wheel's turning quicker (ie: low pressure) than another and not have silly expensive sensors.

And you pay how much more for that privelege?

Tom

ZIPNBYE · 10-25-2010, 11:21 AM

For the car, or in society in general?

Car purchase was nearly at par at the time of our purchase...and we had the M-Sport option then whereas the US didn't (yet)...so that's a wash.

As to the differences between the US and Canada in terms of society in general, that's far more of an off-topic discussion.

I just see the folly in a government agency mandating only one way to solve a technilogical problem, where there are better ways to solve it, at less cost. The cost of a set of TPMS sensors could be somebody's mortgage payment for a month...

Tom K. · 10-25-2010, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZIPNBYE

For the car, or in society in general?

For the car.

It seems to me that since a 128i Coupe has an MSRP of CDN $35,800 and US $29,450, your characterizing us as "you poor saps" might have been poorly thought out.

Tom

boostm3 · 11-23-2010, 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Clarkson

They switched to a different receiver setup for 2011 at least. The sensors are different as well, but older sensors might still work regardless. I was quoted $66 per sensor for the newest Beru units being used on 2011 models.

Are you sure? Tirerack is selling the same 433 mhz sensors for the 2011 135s as for 2010.. Im having an issue with my 2011 135i tpms system not resetting after putting on my winter wheel pkg with the tirerack sensors. Could this be why its not resetting? If there were a sensor issue, i would expect to be getting system warnings instead of the small reset icon thats been showing ever since I started the reset some 30 miles ago.

Dackelone · 11-23-2010, 08:26 AM

I thought the new-er sensors were only used on the three and five series. Or something like that. That the 1er still used the old 433Mhz sensors.

Boostm3... you should go ask a dealer for a straight up answer on this. Or call BMW NA and ask for a engineer/tech dept to call you back.

Dackel

Dackelone · 11-23-2010, 10:23 AM

UPDATE: OP did you see the other TPMS thread....

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=457431

Gill said that BMW changed the TPMS sensors half way thru 2011 models. Maybe that is why the price is different. Although Gill said the new-er sensors are $45 each. Not sure how the other venders are charging $400 for a set.

Dackel

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KingOfJericho Major General 2452 Rep 7,341 Posts Drives: Yes Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CT iTrader: (1) Garage List 2010 135i Coupe [5.26]	TPMS Pricing Rant/Question I have a 2010 135 which is obviously equipped with TPMS. When I purchased my winter setup last year, which included the TPMS, I paid $196 for all 4 including the valve stems. Now why is it that every aftermarket wheel company aside from tirerack is charging $400+ for 2010+ TPMS while 2008-09 cars are only being charged ~$200? Tirerack makes no distinction between the model years and they work flawlessly. What gives? __________________ The views and opinions expressed in this post are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of Bimmerpost. 2018 Jeep Grand Cherokee High Altitude Hemi \| 2010 S4 Sold \| 2010 BMW 135i Retired \| 2006 Lotus Exige Sold Last edited by KingOfJericho; 10-19-2010 at 08:53 AM..
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Gary@TireRack Moderator 369 Rep 4,745 Posts Drives: Formerly 1995 M3 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: South Bend, IN, Tire Rack HQ iTrader: (2)	I'll take a guess. BMW changed sensors in some models in the '10 or '11 model year. The 1 series was not affected by that change but some folks may be charging as if it was. That's one guys guess. * For example the '09 M3 coupe uses a different sensor than the '10 __________________ Gary. Tire and Wheel Forum Moderator. Tire Rack Sales Rep Gary@Tirerack.com http://www.tirerack.com/a.jsp?a=AH8&url=index.jsp Please refer to 'Gary/E90 Post' as your previous contact when you order online to help support this forum.
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dicker Captain 69 Rep 847 Posts Drives: F80 6MT Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: SoCal iTrader: (8)	So the 135i uses the same TPMS from 08 even on the 2011? I know the E90's switched over in 2010. That's awesome news for me as I was dreading the extra money for the newer ones.
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Gary@TireRack Moderator 369 Rep 4,745 Posts Drives: Formerly 1995 M3 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: South Bend, IN, Tire Rack HQ iTrader: (2)	There's not much price difference in the sensors (initially I think it was a big difference) but they are different in some models. The 135's are all using the same sensors '08-'11. __________________ Gary. Tire and Wheel Forum Moderator. Tire Rack Sales Rep Gary@Tirerack.com http://www.tirerack.com/a.jsp?a=AH8&url=index.jsp Please refer to 'Gary/E90 Post' as your previous contact when you order online to help support this forum.
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KingOfJericho Major General 2452 Rep 7,341 Posts Drives: Yes Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CT iTrader: (1) Garage List 2010 135i Coupe [5.26]	I've brought this up to a vendor on this site and they insisted that they were different. Some are actually charging $450 for TPMS. That's the cost of 2 tires! It's pretty shocking that they've been able to get away with it thus far... __________________ The views and opinions expressed in this post are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of Bimmerpost. 2018 Jeep Grand Cherokee High Altitude Hemi \| 2010 S4 Sold \| 2010 BMW 135i Retired \| 2006 Lotus Exige Sold Last edited by KingOfJericho; 10-19-2010 at 12:50 PM..
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Gary@TireRack Moderator 369 Rep 4,745 Posts Drives: Formerly 1995 M3 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: South Bend, IN, Tire Rack HQ iTrader: (2)	Interesting. I've not shopped any other vendors for the sensors, nor do I know what any of them price the TPMS sensors at. What others pay for the parts will also influence what they sell them for. My comments were regarding the retail market in general and what could have happened in any given instance. __________________ Gary. Tire and Wheel Forum Moderator. Tire Rack Sales Rep Gary@Tirerack.com http://www.tirerack.com/a.jsp?a=AH8&url=index.jsp Please refer to 'Gary/E90 Post' as your previous contact when you order online to help support this forum.
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miiipilot Lieutenant Colonel 522 Rep 1,502 Posts Drives: 2024 M2 Brooklyn Grey 6mt Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Cleveland, OH iTrader: (0)	I asked Gill this exact question. Because I don't like the racks wheel choices. I wanted to get some VMR wheels and all the sites offering these wheels charge $400+ for TPMS. He said they are the same TPMS. You can buy the TPMS from www.tirerack.com and then order the wheels elsewhere. I know...I know...I wanted a one-stop-shop myself too. Plus having them installed already But $200 is $200 savings for the same damn TMPS miiipilot __________________ miiipilot '24 M2 Brooklyn Grey, 6mt, Bi-Color, Black M-Color seats, '16 MG M2, DCT, Exec. Took Delivery 4/30/16 (Sold)
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KingOfJericho Major General 2452 Rep 7,341 Posts Drives: Yes Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CT iTrader: (1) Garage List 2010 135i Coupe [5.26]	Did you read the thread? Just order them as if it were a 2009 and you can have your one stop shopping. Remember, there is NO DIFFERENCE. __________________ The views and opinions expressed in this post are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of Bimmerpost. 2018 Jeep Grand Cherokee High Altitude Hemi \| 2010 S4 Sold \| 2010 BMW 135i Retired \| 2006 Lotus Exige Sold
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ralawren First Lieutenant 78 Rep 310 Posts Drives: 2015 228i MSport w/Trk Pkg Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Wake Forest, NC iTrader: (0)	I am running the 433mz TPMS from Tire Rack on my 2010 128i with no issues. Car was built Oct 2010.
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Mr. Clarkson Lieutenant 41 Rep 541 Posts Drives: 2011 135i Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: San Diego iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 135i [0.00]	They switched to a different receiver setup for 2011 at least. The sensors are different as well, but older sensors might still work regardless. I was quoted $66 per sensor for the newest Beru units being used on 2011 models. __________________
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BBBluey Major 77 Rep 1,011 Posts Drives: very slow and courteous Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Vandenberg Village, California iTrader: (7)	I just saw someone on the for sale section selling these sensors for $35 each. Jump on them quick!
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ZIPNBYE Let's save military ranks for those who earn it! 45 Rep 1,161 Posts Drives: ...on the Ragged Edge Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada iTrader: (6) Garage List 2013 BMW e92 M3 Cou ... [7.50] 2013 BMW e84 X1 xDr ... [7.00]	You poor saps...required by federal law to have in-wheel sensors (thank you Ford!). Despite having to guess which wheel is flat (when we had RFT's on the car), I'm very happy to have a system that simply uses the ABS / TCS to figure out when one wheel's turning quicker (ie: low pressure) than another and not have silly expensive sensors. __________________ Richard 2013 BMW M3 Individual -- Fire Orange (sold) 2013 BMW X1 xDrive35i M-Sport -- Valencia Orange (sold) 2011 BMW 1-series M Coupe (#205/220) -- Valencia Orange (sold) 2009 BMW 135i M-Sport Coupe -- Space Grey (sold)
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Dackelone European Editor 10604 Rep 22,992 Posts Drives: N54 e82 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Bayern, Germany iTrader: (1)	I thought the new-er sensors were only used on the three and five series. Or something like that. That the 1er still used the old 433Mhz sensors. Boostm3... you should go ask a dealer for a straight up answer on this. Or call BMW NA and ask for a engineer/tech dept to call you back. Dackel
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Dackelone European Editor 10604 Rep 22,992 Posts Drives: N54 e82 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Bayern, Germany iTrader: (1)	UPDATE: OP did you see the other TPMS thread.... http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=457431 Gill said that BMW changed the TPMS sensors half way thru 2011 models. Maybe that is why the price is different. Although Gill said the new-er sensors are $45 each. Not sure how the other venders are charging $400 for a set. Dackel
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