StopTech Deposit Solution

[Saandiaago]

Hey all. Took my StopTech ST60/40 to the track a few months ago and have been dealing with deposits on the rotors. My mistake in using the StopTech street performance pads at Auto Club Speedway. I have read that the Hawk Blues are great for removing deposits. As I intend to make more trips to the track, is there any point in getting the Hawk Blues for cold temp scrubbing of the rotors or should I just get another set of track oriented pads that will serve double duty effectively to clean my rotors and function as excellent track pads at temp on a track day? Thanks.

[aus]

It's really a matter of bedding them well with those pads. I had deposits with just street driving after doing the 6 stops as instructed.
I bed them in really well the next time and didn't have issues after doing multiple track events.

I would assume any track pad would do the trick.
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[msan]

I had to use Hawk Blue to scrub my rotors clean. Had deposits from the ST Sport pads also. Where in Socal are you? If you are close to 310 I can rent you the pads for a couple days. The Hawk Blues eat rotors like nothing else.

[dparm]

Try a Flex Hone tool. Dave Zeckhausen recommended it:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007INTE3Q...=2VKLVL1OJNHBA

[macdude357]

I would think any track pad will remove the deposits so if you are going to buy some track pads, I would just use those; no sense in buying a set just to remove deposits.

If you are in San Diego, another option is to have them turned by 5th Street Auto in Escondido. They have a ProCut lathe that will handle slotted rotors. I had my StopTech Aero rotors turned there before and am going on Thursday to get my ST60's turned.

[msan]

Just my experience but I tried pagids and didn't do anything. Had to go Hawk Blue.

[dparm]

Originally Posted by macdude357

I would think any track pad will remove the deposits so if you are going to buy some track pads, I would just use those; no sense in buying a set just to remove deposits.

It's going to depend on how bad the deposits are. Proper bedding should remove the vast majority of them, but you may need to do two bedding sessions. The Flex Hone tool is a nice alternative if you simply don't have the ability/time to do that.

I have heard the Hawk Blue thing from two different shops but have never tried it for myself.

[Saandiaago]

Originally Posted by msan

I had to use Hawk Blue to scrub my rotors clean. Had deposits from the ST Sport pads also. Where in Socal are you? If you are close to 310 I can rent you the pads for a couple days. The Hawk Blues eat rotors like nothing else.

I'm in San Diego but have in laws in West LA. Thanks for the offer to rent. Might take you up next time I'm up in your neck of the woods.

[bigjae1976]

Get the rotors a little warm and spray them with water. Let it sit overnight and just do one or two hard stops. Deposits should be gone.

Those ST street pads are probably useless bricks if they were overheated to the point the pads left deposits.

[spxxx]

Originally Posted by Saandiaago

Hey all. Took my StopTech ST60/40 to the track a few months ago and have been dealing with deposits on the rotors. My mistake in using the StopTech street performance pads at Auto Club Speedway. I have read that the Hawk Blues are great for removing deposits. As I intend to make more trips to the track, is there any point in getting the Hawk Blues for cold temp scrubbing of the rotors or should I just get another set of track oriented pads that will serve double duty effectively to clean my rotors and function as excellent track pads at temp on a track day? Thanks.

How bad were the stock pads from the ST60 kit? Was considering trying them at a HPDE before tossing them... Should I just pickup some Carbotechs or something proper?

[dparm]

Originally Posted by spxxx

How bad were the stock pads from the ST60 kit? Was considering trying them at a HPDE before tossing them... Should I just pickup some Carbotechs or something proper?

Depends on your tires, the track, and your technique. I actually found them to be fine on street tires and intermediate skill, but they won't last more than one or two track days.

[Saandiaago]

Originally Posted by spxxx

How bad were the stock pads from the ST60 kit? Was considering trying them at a HPDE before tossing them... Should I just pickup some Carbotechs or something proper?

They were actually excellent for the track day. No fade all day, just very consistent easy to modulate stopping power. Was my first track day where I did not feel steering wheel vibration by the end of the day. Interestingly I did not suspect deposits until a few weeks later after washing my car. I got the usual rotor rust and adhesion of the pads to the rotors with subsequently lots of steering wheel feedback with braking only. I thought it would disappear as the rust wore off, but the problem has persisted; its most noticeable with light braking. BigJae might be onto the root cause as perhaps the pads are like bricks and were overheated. I've not had a chance to pop them off yet and take a look.

[spxxx]

Originally Posted by Saandiaago

They were actually excellent for the track day. No fade all day, just very consistent easy to modulate stopping power. Was my first track day where I did not feel steering wheel vibration by the end of the day. Interestingly I did not suspect deposits until a few weeks later after washing my car. I got the usual rotor rust and adhesion of the pads to the rotors with subsequently lots of steering wheel feedback with braking only. I thought it would disappear as the rust wore off, but the problem has persisted; its most noticeable with light braking. BigJae might be onto the root cause as perhaps the pads are like bricks and were overheated. I've not had a chance to pop them off yet and take a look.

Hmm if my Pagids don't get here before next weekend then I'll have to run them. I'm running decent ventilation + the GT3 Cup ducting so heat shouldn't be too much of an issue.

Can't wait to trust my brakes fully... It's been 20+ track days of having to do cool down laps just to keep my brakes in check

[bigjae1976]

The Stoptech street pads will work but you'll likely be managing the brakes while driving. You will overheat them.

[spxxx]

Originally Posted by bigjae1976

The Stoptech street pads will work but you'll likely be managing the brakes while driving. You will overheat them.

If HPA would respond to my emails I might have pads. Just going to hit up Turner or BW and overnight some Pagid/DTCs.

Anyone know of reliable Carbotech or Pagid dealers in CA?

[dparm]

Originally Posted by spxxx

If HPA would respond to my emails I might have pads. Just going to hit up Turner or BW and overnight some Pagid/DTCs.

Anyone know of reliable Carbotech or Pagid dealers in CA?

Maybe Dave @ Zeckhausen Racing can overnight you some Pagids or Hawk DTCs. I think he drop-ships a lot of his stuff anyway. Call him first thing Monday morning, his turnaround time is usually excellent.

[spxxx]

Originally Posted by dparm

Maybe Dave @ Zeckhausen Racing can overnight you some Pagids or Hawk DTCs. I think he drop-ships a lot of his stuff anyway. Call him first thing Monday morning, his turnaround time is usually excellent.

Appreciate the tip, I will reach out.

Leaning toward Pagid RS29 for rotor life and less initial bite, I prefer less bite for easy modulation and less surpises when trail braking. The Hawks I've tried have had a real aggressive bite.

[dparm]

Originally Posted by spxxx

Appreciate the tip, I will reach out.

Leaning toward Pagid RS29 for rotor life and less initial bite, I prefer less bite for easy modulation and less surpises when trail braking. The Hawks I've tried have had a real aggressive bite.

Tell that to Dave. He might recommend the DTC-60s since they are pretty much designed for smooth modulation (DTC = dynamic torque control).