Just how bad is this

tico1028 · 07-16-2017, 05:16 PM

So, I am fairly knowledgeable about cars, can do a lot of work myself, but the one thing I admit I know little to nothing about is tires. my car has been pulling left, so I need to get alignment looked at, but I also need to replace my front driver side tire. Question is, how soon. I want to replace it this week or next weekend, but wanted to confirm this was actually safe to drive on. It looks like there is some thread hanging out of the inner tire, as you can see in one of the pics. The other front tire and both rear are in pretty good shape. The front looks brand new. This tire, though, is in bad shape. Would I be safe commuting to and from work on this? 18 miles each way, all highway.

SakhirM4 · 07-16-2017, 05:19 PM

NO!

tico1028 · 07-16-2017, 05:31 PM

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NO!

I'm worried that's the answer.

As a follow up as well, I know usually a set should be swapped out together (both fronts or both rears). Would it be terrible to just swap this one tire? I turn in the car in April 2018, so just about 9 months.

F3IGHTY · 07-16-2017, 07:40 PM

Yeah, get that tire off. Really strange wear, it's almost like it was hitting a spring perch.

Liquid2.0T · 07-16-2017, 08:09 PM

Listen man, just get a new set and enjoy the car for the remaining 9 months on new tires. Thats what I just did, bought 4 new tires last week and my lease turn in is in March.

I'm from Miami too, and with all of the rain that we're getting here I know for a fact that your car is driving like shit, and you're not having fun driving it. Why drive it around like that? Order a set ASAP and enjoy the rest of your lease term in a safe way.

tico1028 · 07-16-2017, 08:41 PM

Definitely going to get at minimum that tire switched out. Just tough to get it done tomorrow, so hoping I can last a couple more days!

JN1 · 09-22-2017, 11:09 AM

Super odd, seems to be happening to a lot of people. This is what my fronts look like currently, I just found out after leaving the tire shop to install new rear tires. They had to order fronts, so I'm returning today.

Definitely going to get another alignment, but makes me wonder if its rubbing the inner perch or the rubber seat that the spring sits on. I had it aligned after my car settled when I installed Macht Schnell springs from EAS but this looks like something rubbing to me.

Signature Wheel BMW · 09-22-2017, 02:50 PM

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Super odd, seems to be happening to a lot of people. This is what my fronts look like currently, I just found out after leaving the tire shop to install new rear tires. They had to order fronts, so I'm returning today.

Definitely going to get another alignment, but makes me wonder if its rubbing the inner perch or the rubber seat that the spring sits on. I had it aligned after my car settled when I installed Macht Schnell springs from EAS but this looks like something rubbing to me.

How many miles? When the shop did the alignment, did they use your equivalent weights on the driver seat? If you're lowered w/o a camber plate to set the camber back to OEM spec, then wear like this is normal. Other factor such as incorrect Toe cause uneven wear. Do not drive it any further, tires will explode in pieces on the highway and you'll have a bigger repair bill than a set of tires.

e90-4aj · 09-22-2017, 03:10 PM

don't drive - get replacement tires ASAP

CanAutM3 · 09-22-2017, 04:29 PM

I'll offer a couterpoint.

I've tracked cars at full steam with a lot more cord showing on my tires. There is nothing really dramatically "unsafe" per-se with a little cord showing, besides that it usually means there is little tread depth left and it could get hairy in the rain (but it does not seem to be your case here). However, if you see metal, that is absolute no-go. Do not wait too long though, as metal will eventually poke out and at that point, the structural integrity of the tire starts to be impacted.

JN1 · 09-22-2017, 05:11 PM

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How many miles? When the shop did the alignment, did they use your equivalent weights on the driver seat? If you're lowered w/o a camber plate to set the camber back to OEM spec, then wear like this is normal. Other factor such as incorrect Toe cause uneven wear. Do not drive it any further, tires will explode in pieces on the highway and you'll have a bigger repair bill than a set of tires.

As mentioned, I'm replacing these today. I'm just looking to figure out what I can do to prevent this. I seriously doubt this is camber related. Toe, more likely. However, this is on the far inner end, on the edge of the tread shoulder.

No, it was not corner balanced. It is lowered without camber plate, but once again my negative camber isn't extreme. I've run much more aggressive setups before and didn't have an issue this bad.

CanAutM3 · 09-22-2017, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JNM3

As mentioned, I'm replacing these today. I'm just looking to figure out what I can do to prevent this. I seriously doubt this is camber related. Toe, more likely. However, this is on the far inner end, on the edge of the tread shoulder.

No, it was not corner balanced. It is lowered without camber plate, but once again my negative camber isn't extreme. I've run much more aggressive setups before and didn't have an issue this bad.

Out of curiosity, what tires are you running?

I also agree that toe is usually more the culprit than camber for such wear.

KRUZNM3 · 09-22-2017, 07:08 PM

I'd definitely swap those tires out asap

JN1 · 09-23-2017, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by CanAutM3

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Originally Posted by JNM3

As mentioned, I'm replacing these today. I'm just looking to figure out what I can do to prevent this. I seriously doubt this is camber related. Toe, more likely. However, this is on the far inner end, on the edge of the tread shoulder.

No, it was not corner balanced. It is lowered without camber plate, but once again my negative camber isn't extreme. I've run much more aggressive setups before and didn't have an issue this bad.

Out of curiosity, what tires are you running?

I also agree that toe is usually more the culprit than camber for such wear.

I was running PSS. My new tires are Bridgestone S-04 in the same sizes. Much better deal and rides sightly better for daily driving.

CanAutM3 · 09-23-2017, 10:04 AM

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I was running PSS. My new tires are Bridgestone S-04 in the same sizes. Much better deal and rides sightly better for daily driving.

Are the corded tires the PSS or the Bridgestone? What size and spec were they?

JN1 · 09-23-2017, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by JNM3

I was running PSS. My new tires are Bridgestone S-04 in the same sizes. Much better deal and rides sightly better for daily driving.

Are the corded tires the PSS or the Bridgestone? What size and spec were they?

The OEM PSS 255/35 and 275/35 19

CanAutM3 · 09-23-2017, 10:25 AM

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The OEM PSS 255/35 and 275/35 19

Then it is very likely an alignment issue.

Shoof · 09-24-2017, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by CanAutM3

Then it is very likely an alignment issue.

^What he said

JN1 · 09-27-2017, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CanAutM3

Then it is very likely an alignment issue.

Not on stock wheels though, running 19x11 rear 19x9.5 front.

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tico1028 Lieutenant 124 Rep 507 Posts Drives: F83 M4 - MG Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Miami iTrader: (0)	Just how bad is this So, I am fairly knowledgeable about cars, can do a lot of work myself, but the one thing I admit I know little to nothing about is tires. my car has been pulling left, so I need to get alignment looked at, but I also need to replace my front driver side tire. Question is, how soon. I want to replace it this week or next weekend, but wanted to confirm this was actually safe to drive on. It looks like there is some thread hanging out of the inner tire, as you can see in one of the pics. The other front tire and both rear are in pretty good shape. The front looks brand new. This tire, though, is in bad shape. Would I be safe commuting to and from work on this? 18 miles each way, all highway. Attached Images
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