ARMA SPEED
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Today's Posts

Go Back   BMW M3 and BMW M4 Forum > BMW F80 M3 / F82 M4 Technical Topics > Wheels | Tires -- Sponsored by The Tire Rack

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      03-11-2017, 06:35 PM   #1
darkbluemn
Second Lieutenant
darkbluemn's Avatar
United_States
105
Rep
236
Posts

Drives: 2017 BMW M4 F82
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: New Jersey

iTrader: (1)

Question Can't remove the lug nuts of my wheels

My car is 2017 M4 coupe with ZCP and 666M wheel.

I just bought a spare tire in case I get flat tire during trip, which is terrible. This is my DD car.

Today I just wanted to try if I could replace the wheel & tire myself. I used a 21" lug wrench which is very solid, but I can't remove the lug nuts of 666M wheels. I even stood on it and jumped. 21" multiply my weight is at least 250 ftlb. I tried 3 lug nuts, all failed.

Any one has idea? I was doing it counter clock-wise (don't tell me it was wrong).

Thanks for your help.
Appreciate 0
      03-11-2017, 07:18 PM   #2
x.shell
▆ ✚✚   ▆▆▆▆▆▆
x.shell's Avatar
6580
Rep
5,304
Posts

Drives: ▋ ▉▉
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location:  ▆▆▆ ▆▆▆ ▆

iTrader: (3)

Get a long pole that you can sleeve over the breaker bar (like the pole on a hydraulic jack). This should give you more than 3ft of leverage which is plenty to loosen with your own arm strength. After that, be sure to torque it down to the correct ft/lb.
Appreciate 0
      03-11-2017, 07:22 PM   #3
M BE4ST
Second Lieutenant
174
Rep
207
Posts

Drives: M4
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Long Island, NY

iTrader: (0)

Bring it to the dealer and have them re torque them all. I had the same problem and stripped one of the lugs and had to pay Bmw to remove it.
Appreciate 0
      03-11-2017, 07:23 PM   #4
darkbluemn
Second Lieutenant
darkbluemn's Avatar
United_States
105
Rep
236
Posts

Drives: 2017 BMW M4 F82
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: New Jersey

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by M BE4ST View Post
Bring it to the dealer and have them re torque them all. I had the same problem and stripped one of the lugs and had to pay Bmw to remove it.
How much you pay that? I just checked a lug nut, it is a little stripped.
Appreciate 0
      03-11-2017, 07:51 PM   #5
M BE4ST
Second Lieutenant
174
Rep
207
Posts

Drives: M4
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Long Island, NY

iTrader: (0)

Bmw re torqued them all for free but charged me I think 30$ to remove the stripped lug. I stripped it really bad though almost completely round. They had to drill it out. I'm saying before u do damage they won't cover take to them n let them remove
Appreciate 0
      03-11-2017, 08:51 PM   #6
Woodengun
Lieutenant
310
Rep
408
Posts

Drives: Yugo
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Norcal

iTrader: (0)

Electric or pneumatic impact wrench with a quality, correct sized socket. If you have to hammer the socket to get it in and seated completely on the nut then do so (since the lug nut is damaged it may not accept the correct sized socket without persuasion).

I've seen several people strip their lugs using a breaker bar. They don't seat the socket completely onto the nut and/or when they apply pressure to the bar, they do so in a way that pries the socket off the lug nut as they are trying to loosen it.

Impact wrench is more foolproof (higher financial cost though) for removing lug nuts.
Appreciate 0
      03-26-2017, 12:15 PM   #7
Signature Wheel BMW
Major
Signature Wheel BMW's Avatar
United_States
1104
Rep
1,083
Posts

Drives: Signature BMW
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: IG: signature_bmw

iTrader: (0)

Use a RYOBI 18V 1/2 Impact and set speed at #3. Works great, even with rusted suspension parts. Only $129.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Ryobi-ONE...FRe2wAodrJIHPQ

This can be prevented by using a drop of copper anti-seize on the thread of the bolt. Keep in mind when using anti-seize, you must decrease torque by 20%. So only torque to 95ft-lb with anti-seize, which is considered "lubricated" torque specs.

I've been using copper anti-seize for over 15yrs and even tracked my cars, never had any issues with wheel bolts seizing up.
__________________
Jimmy | BMW Addict | Signature Performance Wheels | OBSESSED WITH PERFECTION | IG: Signature_BMW | Email: jimmy@signaturewheel.com

Last edited by Signature Wheel BMW; 03-26-2017 at 12:23 PM..
Appreciate 1
      03-27-2017, 04:59 PM   #8
SD ///M4
///Multiple
SD ///M4's Avatar
United_States
2992
Rep
4,243
Posts

Drives: M4 Coupe | M3 | Z4M Roadster
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: San Diego, CA

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by Signature Wheel BMW View Post
Use a RYOBI 18V 1/2 Impact and set speed at #3. Works great, even with rusted suspension parts. Only $129.

This can be prevented by using a drop of copper anti-seize on the thread of the bolt. Keep in mind when using anti-seize, you must decrease torque by 20%. So only torque to 95ft-lb with anti-seize, which is considered "lubricated" torque specs.

I've been using copper anti-seize for over 15yrs and even tracked my cars, never had any issues with wheel bolts seizing up.
I also use a Ryobi 18V 1/2" impact wrench. For swapping wheels at the track I take a spare LiOn battery and a charger if I know that I'll have access to electricity. It's worked great for the last 5-6 years.

Regarding using anti-seize on lug bolts, there is decidedly mixed advice on this topic. Do your own research before following the above advice. I've been tracking cars for over 20 years and I've never used an anti-seize on my lug bolts/nuts and I've never had a problem removing them. The key is to make sure that your lug bolts/nuts don't get overtorqued. Take your own breaker bar and torque wrench to the tire installer and make sure that you check them after the installation. If you can't get them off, have the installer loosen them.
__________________
The Coupe: 2016 M4 | Sakhir Orange | Black Full Merino Leather | CF Trim | M-DCT | More | ED 5/13/16
The Sedan: 2018 M3 | San Marino Blue | Black Full Merino Leather | CF Trim | M-DCT | ZCP | ED 7/18/18
The Roadster: 2006 Z4 | Interlagos Blue | Black Extended Nappa Leather | Carbon Leather Trim | Purchased 7/19/12

Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:25 AM.




f80post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST