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That Vette looks so good. Just the back end I don't care for. Thanks for all the comments guys.
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I know, I know--this is COMPLETELY off the main course of this thread, but this has been nagging at me since I watched that C7 vs 991S video. |
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So, loaded versions of each car in Canada fully loaded... C7: $79,500 M4: $103,000 911S: $176,000 Talk about performance not matching pricing Here is the US pricing... base to fully loaded. C7: $53,000 to $77,000 M4: $64,000 to $91,000 911S: $98,000 to $158,000 So, you could buy a very well equipped M4 for daily duties and a well equipped C7 for the weekend/track and be just around the same price as a loaded 911S Last edited by gthal; 05-19-2014 at 06:50 AM.. |
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I didn't have any chance to test drive the C7; however I have already tested the C5 and C6 and have seen lots of videos all referring to the traction issue. with this history I was curious to see if the issue is still there and asked OP since he owns this car
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Your second post, the one I responded to, sounded more like a statement than a question. That's why I brought up the corvette's traditional attributes and the C7's reported improvement in the traction department. Your welcome. |
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statement about previous model and not C7
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So if you acknowledge that you were in fact making a statement, and not asking a question, then you should be able to understand why I responded...and thus there shouldn't be a need for you to explain yourself.
Also, you didn't specify that you were referring to the previous corvette models. You specifically said "this car" so I read that to mean the C7 (since that was the topic of the thread). Quote:
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This statement refers to past not now and future
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The C7 I drove was indeed a Z51, so I cannot really explain the "softness" of the suspension. I suppose it is a bit subjective, but I feel like Corvette may be trying to appeal to the masses and/or an older crowd, which is fine by me. I wish it had the magnetic ride so I could have compared that in multiple modes. I did try the steering on sport mode, I wish I had known to try track mode as well. I still found sport mode to be very light and slightly soft for my taste, but the adjustability is definitely key. If I get a chance to test drive again, I will definitely request one with MRC. |
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I suggest you test drive one (if you haven't) and see if this holds up. |
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I rarely received attention in my tuned BMWs. Most people (i.e., non-enthusiasts) just can't tell the difference between an M Sport 335i and the M3. Sometimes my 7-Series would elicit a comment or two. Surprisingly, as tame/understated as my C63 looks (silver, 4 doors), that has been the car that has attracted the most attention/struck up the most conversations. I guess many people just haven't seen a Mercedes with four exhaust tips and massive brake hardware.
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That is encouraging, and I'm definitely looking forward to trying the MRC! |
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I like the Vettes and checked them out pretty closely this weekend. I don't think there will be much difference in performance between the M4 and the C7, although I'm sure there will be some. I think the M4 will feel much more Vette-like off the line than ever before. If you are only concerned about the very best numbers, even if the numbers are pretty darn close, get the C7. If you love numbers, but also enjoy fit and finish, material quality, ergonomics, engineering and the like, the M4 is a no brainer. While the C7 is a spectacular car, all you need to do is look at the paint quality, seam spacing, materials quality to see where the M4 money is spent. The white C7s for example had huge gaps that were noticably uneven, especially around the hood and lots of orange peel. The buttons and handles just lack that snap that BMW gives you. I enjoy and appreciate those things, especially when I only get one sports car that is my DD. What I want is an M4 coupe and a C7 convertible, which is a big winner because there is little weight or performance hit for open air fun.
By the way, the taillights seem perfect for the car. Round ones would look out of place on such an angular car. The overall design is the best Vette yet IMHO. It just looks great and menacing. The dealer that I visited has sold 200 in seven months - crazy. Plus, the are all marked up with a "market adjustment." |
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Stingray is a true sports coupe, the m4 is 2+2. Stingray is a V8 Naturally Aspirated, while the m4 is a twin-turbo, and however slight it may be, there will be some turbo lag. So no, the M4 will not feel like the vette and vice versa. The stingray has been recorded by many to pull at least a 3.9 on its 0-60 mph whereas the M4 has only been pulling a 4.1 (with DCT). And lastly I wouldn't speak for everyone in explaining why people buy corvettes...because those I've talked to don't just buy these cars for the numbers. The corvette is a raw and emotional car that comes out of the box ready for performance driving (dragstrips, tracks, ect.). Most people don't buy vettes just so they can brag to their friends about how much horsepower it has; they buy these cars to go fast and get a true driver's experience. I would consider the M4 a much more refined car that can do everything fairly well. You can track it fairly well, use for daily driving, run errands, go on trips....it offers performance with a fair amount of practicality. I would buy the corvette if I wanted all out performance, and I would buy the M4 if I wanted performance on hand but also valued comfort and practicality. That being said, the new vettes are coming with much better interiors and overall quality....so the gap between them and BMW's is closing on that area. |
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The Stingray has also been reviewed, so you don't need to take my word for it. You can go compare the cars for yourself. Also, the F82 does have a better quality than the stingray, and it should for the extra money. All I am saying is that the quality of the new corvettes aren't as bad as you make them out to be. |
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i have massive respect for the vette but when i saw it in person i kept thinking it was gonna transform |
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I'm not suggesting the build quality might be slightly higher on the MB and BMW but it is very, very close. BTW, my C63 had more issues in the first 4 months of ownership than my C7 had. My M3 (first one) had lots of squeaks and rattles (C7, none). My point is you are incorrect in your comment quoted above. Some of the very early C7s had some issues but that is not the case now. The only real continued issue, if there is one, is orange peel... but guess what, as mentioned, my M3 had it too. |
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