M3 control arms

Brettlidsey · 12-16-2013, 05:03 PM

I have been reading up about fitting m3 control arms and subframe bushes for my e92 330D

Every post I read is from the USA

Has anyone from the UK done this and can give me some info?

What the kit people are using is ect.

A lot of people talking about TSW

Who are they and what's the difference between TSW and OEM??

mob17 · 12-16-2013, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Brettlidsey

I have been reading up about fitting m3 control arms and subframe bushes for my e92 330D

Every post I read is from the USA

Has anyone from the UK done this and can give me some info?

What the kit people are using is ect.

A lot of people talking about TSW

Who are they and what's the difference between TSW and OEM??

TRW make the OEM M3 arms. They just rub off the M stamp when selling it themselves.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=843644

Brettlidsey · 12-17-2013, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by mob17

TRW make the OEM M3 arms. They just rub off the M stamp when selling it themselves.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=843644

Just what I was after,

Now need to see if anyone has done it in the uk

Cheers Brett.

mob17 · 12-17-2013, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Brettlidsey

Just what I was after,

Now need to see if anyone has done it in the uk

Cheers Brett.

Plenty have done it, just not everyone has documented it. There's a good write up by Alpina_B3_Lux (based in europe).

If you read the linked thread, a member called phil has installed them, but just the fronts.

Transport3r · 12-17-2013, 02:50 AM

Did this on my 335i with the TRW arms, amazing difference!

parapaul · 12-17-2013, 03:15 AM

Out of interest, what alignment settings did your garage use? Reading through Phil's thread, it seems the M3 geometry didn't suit his car at all.

phil200tdi · 12-17-2013, 04:23 AM

The m3 toe was slightly too aggressive. The car was pulling hard on road camber and even strong winds! The rear end also felt loose.. Ok now though.

Annoyingly one of the rear arms got flagged on the MOT as having excessive play.... Should have just done them all and been done with it! Alignments are expensive!

Josh1a1h · 12-17-2013, 04:37 AM

I was going to go this route... but i think i am just going to buy some powerflex bushes, have them fitted and call it a day... no alignment needed after

idnan · 12-17-2013, 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Josh1a1h

I was going to go this route... but i think i am just going to buy some powerflex bushes, have them fitted and call it a day... no alignment needed after

I've got m3 lower arms and powerflex bushes in my original tension struts which I bought off here barely used.

I think a better choice would be to replace with tension and control arm bushes with poly ones and then get the camber pins pulled and increase the camber up front. Would require the alignment but would you'd get the other advantage of m3 lower arms too.

Icekube · 12-17-2013, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Josh1a1h

I was going to go this route... but i think i am just going to buy some powerflex bushes, have them fitted and call it a day... no alignment needed after

you will still need alignment after fitting polybushes....

Josh1a1h · 12-17-2013, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Icekube

you will still need alignment after fitting polybushes....

Why? Nothing is being adjusted? just old bushes popped out and new ones inserted.

I'm happy with the stock handling too... So doubt i would even consider increasing the camber... I know the extra wear on the tyres in minimal as long as it is all set up correctly...

Icekube · 12-17-2013, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Josh1a1h

Why? Nothing is being adjusted? just old bushes popped out and new ones inserted.

I'm happy with the stock handling too... So doubt i would even consider increasing the camber... I know the extra wear on the tyres in minimal as long as it is all set up correctly...

but its ALL being adjusted, just taking it off the car and re-fitting the exact same arm without doing anything do it, is adjusting it.

suspension geometry is minute changes, literally segments of a degree (minutes). removing something and replacing it is going to require you to recheck all the settings. regardless if you want M3 geometry or OE.

Brettlidsey · 02-27-2014, 05:56 AM

Can anyone shed the light on if this is worth doing and what's the positives and negatives of it

Cheers Brett.

AzRiz · 02-27-2014, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Icekube

but its ALL being adjusted, just taking it off the car and re-fitting the exact same arm without doing anything do it, is adjusting it.

suspension geometry is minute changes, literally segments of a degree (minutes). removing something and replacing it is going to require you to recheck all the settings. regardless if you want M3 geometry or OE.

This is 100% true, alignment is necessary if anything to do with the suspension has its bolts undone. Just a few twists can change everything.

Brettlidsey · 03-01-2014, 01:36 AM

Bump

Can someone confirm that I need:

Front:
JTC1423
JTC1424
JTC1426
JTC1427

Rear:
JTC1428
JTC1429
JTC1430
JTC1431

And a levelling rod which I have no idea where to get it from?
Any ideas?

Cheers Brett.

phil200tdi · 03-01-2014, 02:26 AM

Get the levelling rod from bmminiparts. Only required if you have xenons.

I have a set of the rear arms (brand new in boxes) if you are about to order these. £180 shipped.

Brettlidsey · 03-01-2014, 03:17 AM

Nice one thanks,

I do have xenon's,

Do I just need one rod?

Which ones do you have mate what numbers are they?

Cheers Brett.

phil200tdi · 03-01-2014, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Brettlidsey

Nice one thanks,

I do have xenon's,

Do I just need one rod?

Which ones do you have mate what numbers are they?

Cheers Brett.

As far as I know it's just the one rod.

I've got part numbers:

JTC1428
JTC1429
JTC1430
JTC1431

I'd let them go for £180 shipped - ie £25 cheaper than anywhere else..

Brettlidsey · 03-01-2014, 10:41 AM

Hi will you go to £165?

Cheers Brett.

phil200tdi · 03-01-2014, 11:03 AM

Afraid not.

I'm already losing £25 plus postage £12 on them.

Brettlidsey · 03-01-2014, 11:43 AM

Ok meet in the middle @£170?

phil200tdi · 03-01-2014, 12:26 PM

They are brand new in boxes.

You are welcome to buy at full price from elsewhere. My price isn't unreasonable.

Let me know if you want them.

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phil200tdi Colonel 112 Rep 2,621 Posts Drives: 335i M Sport E90 LCI manual Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Aylesbury iTrader: (1)	The m3 toe was slightly too aggressive. The car was pulling hard on road camber and even strong winds! The rear end also felt loose.. Ok now though. Annoyingly one of the rear arms got flagged on the MOT as having excessive play.... Should have just done them all and been done with it! Alignments are expensive! __________________ Car: e91 330d with Viezu map Gone but not forgotten: 2010 Jaguar XFR (Cat-back exhaust, pulley, intake mods and map), Highly Modified E90 335i LCI M Sport Manual (circa 480BHP/500lb ft)
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Josh1a1h Banned 170 Rep 3,828 Posts Drives: AzuriteBlack 335i E92 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Central North to West London iTrader: (2)	I was going to go this route... but i think i am just going to buy some powerflex bushes, have them fitted and call it a day... no alignment needed after
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Brettlidsey Private 3 Rep 80 Posts Drives: BMW e92 330D Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Dartford, kent iTrader: (0)	Can anyone shed the light on if this is worth doing and what's the positives and negatives of it Cheers Brett.
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Brettlidsey Private 3 Rep 80 Posts Drives: BMW e92 330D Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Dartford, kent iTrader: (0)	Bump Can someone confirm that I need: Front: JTC1423 JTC1424 JTC1426 JTC1427 Rear: JTC1428 JTC1429 JTC1430 JTC1431 And a levelling rod which I have no idea where to get it from? Any ideas? Cheers Brett.
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phil200tdi Colonel 112 Rep 2,621 Posts Drives: 335i M Sport E90 LCI manual Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Aylesbury iTrader: (1)	Get the levelling rod from bmminiparts. Only required if you have xenons. I have a set of the rear arms (brand new in boxes) if you are about to order these. £180 shipped. __________________ Car: e91 330d with Viezu map Gone but not forgotten: 2010 Jaguar XFR (Cat-back exhaust, pulley, intake mods and map), Highly Modified E90 335i LCI M Sport Manual (circa 480BHP/500lb ft)
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Brettlidsey Private 3 Rep 80 Posts Drives: BMW e92 330D Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Dartford, kent iTrader: (0)	Nice one thanks, I do have xenon's, Do I just need one rod? Which ones do you have mate what numbers are they? Cheers Brett.
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