[kaishang]

Car needs 4 x new tyres.

I've always used Continental Sport Contact 2 RFTs up till now. But since all four tyres are up for changing at once, I think I'll try something different.

My options are:
CONTINENTAL SPORT CONTACT 5

PIRELLI PZERO

PIRELLI CINTURATO P7

MICHELIN PILOT PRIMACY HP

Another option is this, which is marked as an all-season tyre but has an EU "C" rating for wet-weather performance, which is a lot better than full-on winter tyres which often have a poor "E" rating for wet weather performance.

VREDESTEIN QUATRAC 3



Eyeballing the tread pattern, the Conti Sport Contact 5 seems to have the least wet weather friendly tread of the lot (although it looks better than the Sport Contact 2s I have on now).

Any ideas?

[MEGA]

CSC 5s are a great tyre

The non run flat even better.

And wet weather grip sensationally good compared to the RE050s (And I imagine quite comparible to the CSC 2s which they of course replace)

[Jase 320d]

Im running bridgestone potenza re050

But i got a puncture and got a kumho ecsta runflat and its every bit as good

Also yokohama do runflats too


Wouldnt waste my time with premiums

[MEGA]

Why do you even have a BMW though Jase.

Refuse to put good summer tyres on

Refuse to use winters

What else wouldn't you waste your time with in order to make the ultimate driving machine actually worth driving?

[djgandy]

I don't think its fair to just say that expensive tyres are the only good ones. You pay a brand premium for these things but they can still be bad. Kumho's actually seem very good as do Vreds without the ridiculous price tags of Pirelli, Bridgestone et al.

[Jase 320d]

Originally Posted by MEGA

Why do you even have a BMW though Jase.

Refuse to put good summer tyres on

Refuse to use winters

What else wouldn't you waste your time with in order to make the ultimate driving machine actually worth driving?

Your a plonker pal

Kumho's and yokohamas are just as good as premium brands at 60% of the price!
(It's not as if id say put linglongs on is it)

You seem to think your beemer is some sort of ferrari!

(Guess what it's not and its not the ultimate driving machine either)

[kaishang]

Originally Posted by MEGA

CSC 5s are a great tyre

The non run flat even better.

And wet weather grip sensationally good compared to the RE050s (And I imagine quite comparible to the CSC 2s which they of course replace)

I have had the Conti SC2s suddenly wash-out on me in wet weather, leading to a slide though. I think they could be perhaps more progressive on the way to a full slide in wet weather.

OTOH the time when they did wash out on me, I was doing laps of the Nurburgring hahahaahaha

[MEGA]

Originally Posted by kaishang

I have had the Conti SC2s suddenly wash-out on me in wet weather, leading to a slide though. I think they could be perhaps more progressive on the way to a full slide in wet weather.

OTOH the time when they did wash out on me, I was doing laps of the Nurburgring hahahaahaha

Hahaha! Nice.

To be fair I don't think the 'ring is what most would consider "normal" wet weather driving

I don't have experience of the CSC2s but I know my 5Ps are very very good in the wet.

I've gone through almost every top brand at some stage or other and wet weather performance wise think they do better than every premium tyre I've tried ...

[kaishang]

I'm half tempted to try the VREDESTEIN QUATRAC 3s.

Mainly as I've never used a winter/all-season tyre before and these are all-seasons, so they could stay on all year. They seem to have the best reviews of any all-season tyre..... but maybe they still could be crap? Is it the best of a compromised bunch? Also they are only V-rated, so limited to 149mph which could be limiting on those trans-Euro motorway trips......

To clarify my usage:
- if it snows I stay home or drive carefully on gritted roads only
- wet weather performance is important
- being able to use the full potential of the car is dry weather is also important

[225_AB]

Originally Posted by Jase 320d

Im running bridgestone potenza re050

But i got a puncture and got a kumho ecsta runflat and its every bit as good

Also yokohama do runflats too


Wouldnt waste my time with premiums

Kumho get pretty poor reviews. According to reviews good grip when new but noisy and wear very quickly, what's your experience?

[mob17]

In my previous car, a 320D, i didn't worry too much about tyres either. Obviously didn't get budget tyres.

Now however i have a 335 so its more important having good rubber. Hard to describe but the forces are much greater, so tyre performance is all the more important. My current tyres are Vreds. Can't fault them. Grip is great. However for my next tyres, i'm going to try Michelin PSS or Conti 5Ps. I'm leaning towards PSS as apparantly the wear is better than the Conti.

[MEGA]

The Conti's are very soft, I can vouch for that ...

[zltm089]

Originally Posted by Jase 320d

Im running bridgestone potenza re050

But i got a puncture and got a kumho ecsta runflat and its every bit as good

Also yokohama do runflats too


Wouldnt waste my time with premiums

I heard LingLongKong are good tyres too....£15 per corner off ebay....try those..

[zltm089]

Originally Posted by Jase 320d

Your a plonker pal

Kumho's and yokohamas are just as good as premium brands at 60% of the price!
(It's not as if id say put linglongs on is it)

You seem to think your beemer is some sort of ferrari!

(Guess what it's not and its not the ultimate driving machine either)

damn, just saw this post!....

a car doesn't have to be a ferrari to deserve premium sports tyres!....i think that the "sportier" the car ....the more it deserves a proper premium tyre....

if you drive very slowly, and not on the motorway, u'd probably be "ok" with linglong tyres....

fuck me, u'd probably be "ok" in a ferrari with linglong tyres if ur driving slowly.....but who the fuck buys a ferrari to drive slowly???????????

I think a 320 should be at least on mid range tyres...just my 2p anyway...

[Jase 320d]

Exactly what i said

Mid range

Kumho / falken / toyo / yokohama / avon / uniroyal


Used all the above tyres and imo there is no noticeable difference between any of the above and premium tyres.

I would never run budgets! They are lethal

[zltm089]

Originally Posted by Jase 320d

Exactly what i said

Mid range

Kumho / falken / toyo / yokohama / avon / uniroyal


Used all the above tyres and imo there is no noticeable difference between any of the above and premium tyres.

I would never run budgets! They are lethal

There is definitely a difference between mid range and premium tyres! I changed just the rears from vreds to ps3 and can definitely feel a difference! and that's just the rears!

Depends what you're after really and how much money you want to spend.

[Jase 320d]

I would tend to disagree

But then again different sizes / widths / speed ratings / cars make a difference to how they use the tyre

So each to their own

I'll keep my mid range and my bank balance

[mob17]

ZLTM: I currently have vreds and would like to try Conti 5Ps or Michelin PSS. Just wondering why you went for PS3?

[zltm089]

Originally Posted by mob17

ZLTM: I currently have vreds and would like to try Conti 5Ps or Michelin PSS. Just wondering why you went for PS3?

I would have gone for PSS, but they didn't have it in stock!

[dazzapb]

Originally Posted by Jase 320d

Your a plonker pal

Kumho's and yokohamas are just as good as premium brands at 60% of the price!
(It's not as if id say put linglongs on is it)

You seem to think your beemer is some sort of ferrari!

(Guess what it's not and its not the ultimate driving machine either)

100% strawman argument there when did he say it was a Ferrari? Premium tyres are put on all marques including fords, vauxhalls, why not BMW and just Ferrari? But I see where you are coming from as you have a 2.0d.

I found on my former e92 goodyear eagle f1 were a good mix between value and performance, they were non-rft and much more comfortable

[Jase 320d]

Originally Posted by dazzapb

100% strawman argument there when did he say it was a Ferrari? Premium tyres are put on all marques including fords, vauxhalls, why not BMW and just Ferrari? But I see where you are coming from as you have a 2.0d.

I found on my former e92 goodyear eagle f1 were a good mix between value and performance, they were non-rft and much more comfortable

Some new car's are now coming with

(What i've seen in person kumho's / maxxis / hankook )




I've had quick cars before and i ran kumho's / falkens on them too

[dazzapb]

Originally Posted by Jase 320d

Some new car's are now coming with

(What i've seen in person kumho's / maxxis / hankook )


I've had quick cars before and i ran kumho's / falkens on them too

Fair point but with 600+nm of torque (more than Ferrari hehe) on 335d I'll stick with premium. Infact I would say all bm's but that's me