[jzcrna]

I stopped by my local dealer today to test drive a car with the N20. That car happened to be a 428i m-sport. WOW! As someone else mentioned, the engine note was phenomenal and this car's torque was plentiful. However, you can tell that its no 335i when on the highway at high speeds. With that said it is more than adequate for a daily driver. The client advisor that I had was awesome. He knew everything about BMWs. He even took me out to show his M3. It was such a great experience that is atypical of many CAs.

He also mentioned that the N20 was modified from 2013-2014. It sounded better than my 335i and that is no BS!

[Jamesons Viggen]

Originally Posted by jzcrna

I stopped by my local dealer today to test drive a car with the N20. That car happened to be a 428i m-sport. WOW! As someone else mentioned, the engine note was phenomenal and this car's torque was plentiful. However, you can tell that its no 335i when on the highway at high speeds. With that said it is more than adequate for a daily driver. The client advisor that I had was awesome. He knew everything about BMWs. He even took me out to show his M3. It was such a great experience that is atypical of many CAs.

He also mentioned that the N20 was modified from 2013-2014. It sounded better than my 335i and that is no BS!

LOL, modified from the '12-14 N20. Umm no.

[jzcrna]

Originally Posted by Jamesons Viggen

LOL, modified from the '12-14 N20. Umm no.

It was changed from 2013-2014. Not from 12-14. This guy has no reason to BS me. He is an enthusiast and knows I wasn't buying this car today.

[zeezz]

Maybe you tried a 428i with M-Performance parts or something, in all news releases/data there has been no indication of drivetrain updates in the 2014 model year. Let us know if you have any other details.

[Jamesons Viggen]

Originally Posted by jzcrna

It was changed from 2013-2014. Not from 12-14. This guy has no reason to BS me. He is an enthusiast and knows I wasn't buying this car today.

He was wrong.

It should be common knowledge that sales guys do not know the cars they sell that well.

[Rasengan]

engine could have been tuned a little differently but i highly doubt it was "changed"...i've not read a single thing saying such and BMW would have surely disclosed this...with that said, i think some of the 328i owners just have to accept the fact that something was done with the 428i to make it sound differently and better...i can attest to that and so can a lot of other owners and test drivers

[jzcrna]

Originally Posted by Jamesons Viggen

He was wrong.

It should be common knowledge that sales guys do not know the cars they sell that well.

Im just passing along what he said. He was extremely knowledgeable. This is what impressed me as he wasn't your typical CA.

He also stated that there was nothing documented about the change. It was subtle, but better nonetheless. Go test drive a 2014 and let me know what you think. I have nothing to compare it to besides a 528i that I test drove two years ago with the N20.

[Jamesons Viggen]

Originally Posted by jzcrna

Im just passing along what he said. He was extremely knowledgeable. This is what impressed me as he wasn't your typical CA.

He also stated that there was nothing documented about the change. It was subtle, but better nonetheless. Go test drive a 2014 and let me know what you think. I have nothing to compare it to besides a 528i that I test drove two years ago with the N20.

I am glad he was knowledgeable.

But that does not mean he was an expert on the N20 or 4 series.

Like I said in another thread, BMW trains it's techs on engines and platforms to a level a CA just is not. I have direct info that the N20 is not changed for the 4 series.

[jzcrna]

Originally Posted by Jamesons Viggen

I am glad he was knowledgeable.

But that does not mean he was an expert on the N20 or 4 series.

Like I said in another thread, BMW trains it's techs on engines and platforms to a level a CA just is not. I have direct info that the N20 is not changed for the 4 series.

Okay. He emphasized it was slightly modified in the 3 series from 2013-2014 (which means that the 428i also would have it.)

Im glad you know for sure. Maybe they did add some sound modification, who knows. It does sound awesome, though.

modified would have been the proper term. They could have done something with software that wasn't really documented for the public.

[Jamesons Viggen]

Originally Posted by jzcrna

Okay. He emphasized it was slightly modified in the 3 series from 2013-2014 (which means that the 428i also would have it.)

Im glad you know for sure. Maybe they did add some sound modification, who knows. It does sound awesome, though.

It has even been stated that the 3 and 4 might even have the same exhaust part numbers.

I just advise to take anything technical from a CA's mouth with a grain of salt, even if this one was better than typical. Good. That means he only said two inaccurate things in an hour instead of 20.