[Gibbo]

Sytner search, choose BMW and then any M3.

5th down on the list Red with loads of spec £50,625 with 1,000 miles. Either a bargin or a typo. At that price you could run it for 6 months 6,000 miles and get most of your money back.



http://www.sytner.co.uk/stocklist.cf...9d025f277c2021

[dxb335d]

does look a bit cheap!

i might buy it if i aint goin lose anything!!

Carlos

[G33]

...dontcha mean ask your dad? haha jus kidding my man

id love a new m3 but i think i want to pay for the petrol it drinks

[dxb335d]

Originally Posted by G33

...dontcha mean ask your dad? haha jus kidding my man

id love a new m3 but i think i want to pay for the petrol it drinks

yeah your right


no seriously, how much would it cost on finance do you think??


i dont mind the amount of fuel it drinks. i love burning fuel, the more

THE BETTER


Carlos

[NFS]

Originally Posted by RR

Depends how much you finance I suppose
For arguments sake lets say you deposit £30K (part-ex) and finance £20k straight HP over 3 years usually works out about £500 p/m - plus interest - but then of course after 3 years with average miles the car itself will probably be still worth £25K - so you're not actually losing very much

With a £5k deposit and £20K retained value you would need £935 a month over 36 months at 9% APR

[dxb335d]

thanks for the info guys!!


its do-able, but it depends whats more important to me! mortgage or car?

i want the car lol

[Dave_3]

Originally Posted by dxb335d

thanks for the info guys!!


its do-able, but it depends whats more important to me! mortgage or car?

i want the car lol

Bit of a disadvantge when you pick up a young lady friend in your shiney new M3, but have to take her back to your mum's for the evening

Using the 335D to take her back to your own pad however .....

D.

[dxb335d]

Originally Posted by Dave_3

Bit of a disadvantge when you pick up a young lady friend in your shiney new M3, but have to take her back to your mum's for the evening

Using the 335D to take her back to your own pad however .....

D.

yeah Dave

100 percenTAY

stick to plan A then


Carlos

[peterg1965]

Originally Posted by needforspeed

With a £5k deposit and £20K retained value you would need £935 a month over 36 months at 9% APR

Interesting to see what the retained value of the M3 is on BMW finance. I have a GMFV of £21700 on my 335d after 3 years and 30,000 miles. £935 month would mean downsizing to a static caravan!

[NFS]

Originally Posted by peterg1965

Interesting to see what the retained value of the M3 is on BMW finance. I have a GMFV of £21700 on my 335d after 3 years and 30,000 miles. £935 month would mean downsizing to a static caravan!

Last time I looked a 3 year old e46 m3 with around 30K miles was around £24K. So retained value was around 50%.

Should be a bit better with the new one ... given the rarity factor. So you may get a bit more for it.

[dxb335d]

Originally Posted by needforspeed

Last time I looked a 3 year old e46 m3 with around 30K miles was around £24K. So retained value was around 50%.

Should be a bit better with the new one ... given the rarity factor. So you may get a bit more for it.

rarity factor? your having a joke?

Why do you think bmw are letting people have them earlier than they anticipated, cuz its all a con to make it look like theres limited run etc, i bet not ONE person will have to wait more than a few months

and they in my ''onion'' will hold less value as there will be a ''coupe, vert, slalom and a estate''... that means there is lots to chose from and a few of each!!!!!

wheres the E46 M3 was just a coupe and vert!!!

[Z4 Beemer]

Originally Posted by dxb335d

rarity factor? your having a joke?

Why do you think bmw are letting people have them earlier than they anticipated, cuz its all a con to make it look like theres limited run etc, i bet not ONE person will have to wait more than a few months

and they in my ''onion'' will hold less value as there will be a ''coupe, vert, slalom and a estate''... that means there is lots to chose from and a few of each!!!!!

wheres the E46 M3 was just a coupe and vert!!!

Carl, I think you have hit the nail on the head. EXACTLY what I am thinking!

[NFS]

Originally Posted by dxb335d

rarity factor? your having a joke?

Why do you think bmw are letting people have them earlier than they anticipated, cuz its all a con to make it look like theres limited run etc, i bet not ONE person will have to wait more than a few months

and they in my ''onion'' will hold less value as there will be a ''coupe, vert, slalom and a estate''... that means there is lots to chose from and a few of each!!!!!

wheres the E46 M3 was just a coupe and vert!!!

The choice of models isn't going to make them less desireable. In fact I dont see that a selection of bodystyles is going to mean any more or less sales than the e46. It's down to the ability of the car.

The first run of any new model, especially one as hotly anticipated as the new M3 will see inflated values on resale.

There will be less on the market, by virtue of the fact that there has been a gap in production.

[Z4 Beemer]

A selection of body styles means that it will appeal to more people, i.e. the size of the target customer group. This, I would have thought would translate into more sales...?

[NFS]

Originally Posted by Z4 Beemer

A selection of body styles means that it will appeal to more people, i.e. the size of the target customer group. This, I would have thought would translate into more sales...?

I'm sure that this will also be BMW's objective.

But .. the e46 M3 was a very successful car and it had a much more open playing field.

I think the new car is less affordable (v8 will put people off on an environmental / economy basis), but it is desireable.

There are also some serious rivals on the way.

I don't see it selling radically more than the e46 did in its height.

[dxb335d]

Originally Posted by Z4 Beemer

A selection of body styles means that it will appeal to more people, i.e. the size of the target customer group. This, I would have thought would translate into more sales...?

more sales initially, there will SELL shit loads, of each

2nd hand resid's will not be brilliant i dont think

[NFS]

Originally Posted by dxb335d

more sales initially, there will SELL shit loads, of each

2nd hand resid's will not be brilliant i dont think

Why do you think it will outsell the e46?

There are currently some serious rivals - RS4, RS5, C63AMG - 335i !

Plus it's more expensive than the old one

AND the v8 will scare people a little.

I don't see it selling a massive amount more than the e46.

[dxb335d]

Originally Posted by needforspeed

Why do you think it will outsell the e46?

There are currently some serious rivals - RS4, RS5, C63AMG - 335i !

Plus it's more expensive than the old one

AND the v8 will scare people a little.

I don't see it selling a massive amount more than the e46.

i think most people will see the price difference just as inflation, i mean a decent speccd E46 M3 was near enough 50k anyhow!!!

the V8 for me is more appealing, of course it is to everyone, if it had the same engine, why bother buying the new one, only to be upstaged by the older lighter one.. the V8 will be much more appealing to the new wave of m3 owners, the only people who are scared of it are the kind of people who buy a Lada

the old M3, (E46) had just as many rivals, the old RS4, 650i, M5 and SLK55 AMG.. so it was never lacking rivals... Benz will always be a quiet, conservative kind of car, so Benz drivers

more people will know/heard of the M3 as its a much more public car.. and many youngsters will know of it also where as not so much the merc and audis


even if they dont sell as many of as the E46, the fact there is so many different body types, dilutes somewhat the ''racer'' edge of the predecessor and this will reflect in lower residules

Carlos

[Dave_3]

Maybe ... people will buy an M3 because they are more interested in actual performance delivery, than traffic light racing cachet.

And I would imagine it is irrelevant what the youngsters think as not many at all will have £50k+ to blow on a car, and still feed it fuel.

Those that do, are more likely to have families and commitments - so extra doors or an estate tick all their boxes. Suiting someone who wants the practicality PLUS the raw performance an M offers. Someone who doesn't care what others think at the lights, and wants the performance and handling regardless of whether it is a coupe or not.

And if BMW distributes their sales over 3 variants, less people will buy each specific variant. So each additional saloon/estate sale is one lost coupe sale.

Still think the performance advantage, atrocious fuel economy and increased price won't woo that many away from their 335Ds.

I'm not interested in the slightest in an M3 (lovely car though it may be). Couldn't even realistically stretch its legs here in Switzerland without going to jail/getting a HORRIFIC fine.

Do you buy your own fuel, Carl ?

D.

Originally Posted by dxb335d

i think most people will see the price difference just as inflation, i mean a decent speccd E46 M3 was near enough 50k anyhow!!!

the V8 for me is more appealing, of course it is to everyone, if it had the same engine, why bother buying the new one, only to be upstaged by the older lighter one.. the V8 will be much more appealing to the new wave of m3 owners, the only people who are scared of it are the kind of people who buy a Lada

the old M3, (E46) had just as many rivals, the old RS4, 650i, M5 and SLK55 AMG.. so it was never lacking rivals... Benz will always be a quiet, conservative kind of car, so Benz drivers

more people will know/heard of the M3 as its a much more public car.. and many youngsters will know of it also where as not so much the merc and audis


even if they dont sell as many of as the E46, the fact there is so many different body types, dilutes somewhat the ''racer'' edge of the predecessor and this will reflect in lower residules

Carlos

[dxb335d]

Originally Posted by Dave_3

Maybe ... people will buy an M3 because they are more interested in actual performance delivery, than traffic light racing cachet.

And I would imagine it is irrelevant what the youngsters think as not many at all will have £50k+ to blow on a car, and still feed it fuel.

Those that do, are more likely to have families and commitments - so extra doors or an estate tick all their boxes. Suiting someone who wants the practicality PLUS the raw performance an M offers. Someone who doesn't care what others think at the lights, and wants the performance and handling regardless of whether it is a coupe or not.

And if BMW distributes their sales over 3 variants, less people will buy each specific variant. So each additional saloon/estate sale is one lost coupe sale.

Still think the performance advantage, atrocious fuel economy and increased price won't woo that many away from their 335Ds.

I'm not interested in the slightest in an M3 (lovely car though it may be). Couldn't even realistically stretch its legs here in Switzerland without going to jail/getting a HORRIFIC fine.

Do you buy your own fuel, Carl ?

D.

Yes i do Dave, and when im getting 15mpg i often make MANY MANY visits to the diesel station

[Dave_3]

Originally Posted by dxb335d

Yes i do Dave, and when im getting 15mpg i often make MANY MANY visits to the diesel station

15 !!!!!!

My gauge is jammed at 32.8 at the moment. And that is mostly city driving and the odd blast across Europe.

Think we have to rename you LeadFootLarry ...

D.

[dxb335d]

Originally Posted by Dave_3

15 !!!!!!

My gauge is jammed at 32.8 at the moment. And that is mostly city driving and the odd blast across Europe.

Think we have to rename you LeadFootLarry ...

D.

yes i have had it as low as that, makes ya dont it

i have said before and ill say it again

''i dont care for MPG, I care ONLY for MPH