[Toast]

When the lease is up and you return the car, will they charge you for wear on the run flats?

If thats the case, im thinking about using after market tires and then when lease is up ill put the run craps back on and not have to pay.

[Spool]

yup

[Revlis]

That seems to be the popular choice. Cause they will want functional RFTs on the car upon return. Nothing is set in stone, but from what I have read it's a legitimate reason to park the oem wheels and tires.

I'm planning on doing the same thing. It's a win win, I get better handling/looks and I don't have to worry any more about rashing a wheel, or replacing shitty RFTs...

[Spool]

For some reason my wheels with RFT felt like i was driving on bricks...

[sambonator]

I saw that the lease guide says you have to have 1/8" tread left at the shallowest point. They have to be run-flats.


(i)serviceable tires with tread at least 1/8" remaining at the shallowest point, all of the same grade, quantity and quality as those delivered with the Vehicle."

[Toast]

what about a spare - fix a flat and pump or buying a spare and jack and throwing it in the trunk?

[AndrewAZ]

You can get RFT's for less than 200 a tire installed. I paid like 172 or 178 for one when I got a flat, tirerack had them for like $120 last I check. Compared with the other cars I have had these tires are cheap. At most you will have to change the two back ones at the end of a lease if you are going to put more than 25-30k miles on them.

[Revlis]

Originally Posted by AndrewAZ

You can get RFT's for less than 200 a tire installed. I paid like 172 or 178 for one when I got a flat, tirerack had them for like $120 last I check. Compared with the other cars I have had these tires are cheap. At most you will have to change the two back ones at the end of a lease if you are going to put more than 25-30k miles on them.

Dunno, but consider that the Bridgestones on a Sport package 335 are staggered, and quite pricey combined with quite shitty. So after market is the way to go...

Remember not everyone has the same cars though, so yeah a 328Xi might be a completely different story dollars wise. Don't assume that we are all running the same rubber.

[E92_335]

Originally Posted by AndrewAZ

You can get RFT's for less than 200 a tire installed. I paid like 172 or 178 for one when I got a flat, tirerack had them for like $120 last I check. Compared with the other cars I have had these tires are cheap. At most you will have to change the two back ones at the end of a lease if you are going to put more than 25-30k miles on them.

yeah but the 3 series runflats are bridgestones and they are the highest quailty.

on tirerack.com they are 1240

**EDIT** Yeah I just saw the picture above that someone posted... those are the ones that come standard on the 3 series.

[Revlis]

While the RFTs may not be WAY more expensive than quality performance rubber at least pulling the OEMs while they are still healthy prevents you from having to buy an entire set of RFTs just to return the car.

[Toast]

Toyo Proxes T1r
255/35R18
23.8Lbs.
280 Treadwear
Y Rated

$171

225/40R18
22Lbs.
280 Treadwear
Y Rated
$142

[Driver72]

Originally Posted by Revlis

That seems to be the popular choice. Cause they will want functional RFTs on the car upon return. Nothing is set in stone, but from what I have read it's a legitimate reason to park the oem wheels and tires.

.

Why do that?
Sell your new (or new ish) RFT and put on the aftermarket ones you want.

When the lease is about up, find someone else's 80% used RFT and buy them for cheap and slap them on the car.

Why store $1500 in wheels and tires that you could sell, only to put them BACK on the car upon return to, in a sense, give them to someone else to use?

[AndrewAZ]

I have continental brand on my car, I was under the impression that all the new models were using continental because of the issues with the bridgestone.

I guess for me anything below $300 for a tire is cheap. My last car it was like 320 a tire and they only lasted 8-10k miles and had no warranty in regards to life.

[Driver72]

Originally Posted by sambonator

I saw that the lease guide says you have to have 1/8" tread left at the shallowest point. They have to be run-flats.


(i)serviceable tires with tread at least 1/8" remaining at the shallowest point, all of the same grade, quantity and quality as those delivered with the Vehicle."

You could easily argue that any brand name tire that is of the same rating or higher than the OEM Bridgestones meets that description.
You could easily use Tirerack as your guide.
If the tires you replace the Bridgestone RunFlats with are of a higher grade, and quality, and you return 4 of them you meet the "same grade, quantity, and quality" specifications.

Nowhere does it say it has to be the same brand or type tire as those delivered with the vehicle.

BMW would have a tough time proving that a highly ranked performance tire, that is actually rated or ranked higher than the OEM runflats does NOT meet the 3 "grade, quantity, and quality" requirements in their lease agreement.
Again, if they add the would, "type" or "classification" to their description then you'd need to return RunFlats.