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      06-07-2011, 11:41 AM   #1
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Are OEM wheels stronger than aftermarket?

UPDATE Here's a more specific question: Let's say we're comparing 19" cast wheels: OEM style 230's (manufactured by BBS) and BBS CH's. Would durability be comparable with both wheels running identical tire profiles?

NOTE: I am NOT asking for a lecture on cast vs. forged wheels. I am simply comparing OEM cast to aftermarket cast, etc.



Is it just me, or are OEM wheels stronger than aftermarket? I've never seen anything about bent or cracked OEM wheels, even if they're cast, but I see plenty of bent or cracked aftermarket wheels.

I'm asking because I'm currently on the market for a new set of 19's. As much as I'd like to get a set of aftermarket wheels, something has me leaning towards going OEM.

Anyone know?

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That's an increadibly vague question that can't be answered unless put into context. OEM wheels are low-pressure cast. There are many aftermarket wheels that are forged or semi-forged and thus stronger than any OEM cast wheel. In a nutshell, some aftermarkets are stronger and others are not.
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That's an increadibly vague question that can't be answered unless put into context. OEM wheels are low-pressure cast. There are many aftermarket wheels that are forged or semi-forged and thus stronger than any OEM cast wheel. In a nutshell, some aftermarkets are stronger and others are not.
Nice....vague answer to a vague question.

OP, do your research on what makes a strong wheel, then go online to find that particular type of wheel that suits your taste and fits your vehicle.

'Nuff said...

Oh, yeah...then buy it.
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Nice....vague answer to a vague question.

OP, do your research on what makes a strong wheel, then go online to find that particular type of wheel that suits your taste and fits your vehicle.

'Nuff said...

Oh, yeah...then buy it.
lol, tough question to answer any other way
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We "normally" dont see bent/crack OEM wheels mainly because:

-they are smaller in diameter so the norm is to use a larger tire profile
-sometimes ppl opt to run a larger profile due to comfort
-majority of the cracked wheels are reps
-we dont normally buy a equal or smaller sized diameter after market wheel, meaning the chances of a lower profile tire will be used...more stress.
-ppl normally dont track with OEM wheels
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I believe OEM wheels are stronger because they are designed for runflat tires, so they absorb larger loads comparing to regular rims. Runflats do not provide the same cusion as a regular tire.
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lol, tough question to answer any other way
MassBimmer,

You answered him correctly.

I was just trying to amplify what you said, brudda.
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I went aftermarket because i bent/cracked my OEM wheels on two different occasions...
Oem where 18 aftermarket are 19
The aftermarket are currently bent/cracked but i know the oems wouldnt have survived that pothole either...
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Typically, oem wheels are stronger than most aftermarket wheels, but they are also much heavier, as they get a lot of their strength from having more mass.

but you can still get a strong aftermarket wheel. Sometimes you can get paperwork on aftermarket wheels that shows how they were tested for strength, and what forces they were tested to.
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I believe OEM wheels are stronger because they are designed for runflat tires, so they absorb larger loads comparing to regular rims. Runflats do not provide the same cusion as a regular tire.
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That's an increadibly vague question that can't be answered unless put into context. OEM wheels are low-pressure cast. There are many aftermarket wheels that are forged or semi-forged and thus stronger than any OEM cast wheel. In a nutshell, some aftermarkets are stronger and others are not.
You're right -- it was vague. Let me try to clarify:

Let's say we're comparing 19" cast wheels: OEM style 230's (manufactured by BBS) and BBS CH's. Would durability be comparable with both wheels running identical tire profiles?

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Nice....vague answer to a vague question.

OP, do your research on what makes a strong wheel, then go online to find that particular type of wheel that suits your taste and fits your vehicle.

'Nuff said...

Oh, yeah...then buy it.
I know what makes a "strong wheel" strong. I was running a set of Work VS-XX last year because they have forged barrels and cast centers, which most other companies (DPE, HRE, etc) have the opposite. I would think forged barrels (to take the hits) and cast centers (to absorb the shock) would make more sense, no?

What I'm looking for is a durable cast 19" wheel because I can't afford forged wheels in that size. I was toying with the idea of stepping it down to 18's and running 40 and 35 profile tires for more protection, but I don't feel the car looks right with 18's unless slammed -- which I can't do with my daily!

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I went aftermarket because i bent/cracked my OEM wheels on two different occasions...
Oem where 18 aftermarket are 19
The aftermarket are currently bent/cracked but i know the oems wouldnt have survived that pothole either...
lol damn!
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Typically, oem wheels are stronger than most aftermarket wheels, but they are also much heavier, as they get a lot of their strength from having more mass.

but you can still get a strong aftermarket wheel. Sometimes you can get paperwork on aftermarket wheels that shows how they were tested for strength, and what forces they were tested to.
This makes sense. More mass = more durability.
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I've bent a 159...I wish I had a picture. I was on oem runflats and the wheels couldn't hold air it was bent so badly.

Yupp, it was a massive pothole....
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I've bent a 159...I wish I had a picture. I was on oem runflats and the wheels couldn't hold air it was bent so badly.

Yupp, it was a massive pothole....
A massive pothole would bend a forged wheel too. I'm talking about a daily driving routine. The reason I'm concerned is because I live in Queens, NY, and if you drove on these roads then you'd understand!! lol
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I hit about 50 huge potholes with my 162 style OEM wheels. Held up like champs. Now I have OEM 19" 359M. Hopefully they hold up just as good.
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Is it just me, or are OEM wheels stronger than aftermarket? I've never seen anything about bent or cracked OEM wheels, even if they're cast, but I see plenty of bent or cracked aftermarket wheels.

I'm asking because I'm currently on the market for a new set of 19's. As much as I'd like to get a set of aftermarket wheels, something has me leaning towards going OEM.

Anyone know?
I would think the casting alone of OEM wheels would be superior to say a made in china wheel.
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I hit about 50 huge potholes with my 162 style OEM wheels. Held up like champs. Now I have OEM 19" 359M. Hopefully they hold up just as good.
See, this is what I'm talking about!

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I would think the casting alone of OEM wheels would be superior to say a made in china wheel.
Please refer to what I stated above in my clarification post.
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Typically, oem wheels are stronger than most aftermarket wheels, but they are also much heavier, as they get a lot of their strength from having more mass.

but you can still get a strong aftermarket wheel. Sometimes you can get paperwork on aftermarket wheels that shows how they were tested for strength, and what forces they were tested to.
I think there's some truth to this.
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...because they are designed for runflat tires, so they absorb larger loads comparing to regular rims....
This isn't true.
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bent all 4 of the 18" oem rims.. you will find many style 225m, 230, and some other oem 19" crack after usage with runflat tires.
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