Falkens 452

TMP · 05-12-2011, 07:49 AM

Seen a few post saying the 452's should be one size up....not sure i am comfortable with this especially from a insurance poisnt of view.

Hs anybody fitted normal size e.g, 255/35/18?

Cheers

rogerxp · 05-12-2011, 07:58 AM

I had normal fitment on mine mate (the E90 330d); no worries.

xenon · 05-12-2011, 08:06 AM

I think it's just on 19" - simply that the normal fitment is 255/30/19 but Falken don't make that size and hence you have to use 265/30/19. No problem in doing that - the dimension change is a couple of %.

rogerxp · 05-12-2011, 08:08 AM

Just checked, mine were the same as yours Tim...

Front: 225/40 R18
Rear: 255/35 R18

creepy coupe · 05-12-2011, 08:17 AM

When I bought mine about a year ago, you couldn't get 225 fronts in 19", so I went 235.

I think they now offer 225/19's

MEGA · 05-12-2011, 08:23 AM

You can run one size up on Falkens no bother especially as there is very little tyre protection and the side walls will look stretched therefore if you use OE sizes.

235/35 and 265/30 is a fair substitute for 225/40 and 255/35 etc

creepy coupe · 05-12-2011, 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MEGA

You can run one size up on Falkens no bother especially as there is very little tyre protection and the side walls will look stretched therefore if you use OE sizes.

235/35 and 265/30 is a fair substitute for 225/40 and 255/35 etc

E92's had 255/30/19's on the rears, didn't they?

davyk31 · 05-12-2011, 08:39 AM

255/30/19 correct on E92s ........ probably not M3 but assume we are talking regular models.

creepy coupe · 05-12-2011, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davyk31

255/30/19 correct on E92s ........ probably not M3 but assume we are talking regular models.

M3's have 35 profile all round

toxicnerve · 05-12-2011, 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MEGA

You can run one size up on Falkens no bother especially as there is very little tyre protection and the side walls will look stretched therefore if you use OE sizes.

235/35 and 265/30 is a fair substitute for 225/40 and 255/35 etc

I noticed this when I had Falkens fitted. They leave rims very exposed!

TMP · 05-12-2011, 09:07 AM

Roger - thank for reassurance, which was then blown up by mega

Quote:

Originally Posted by MEGA

You can run one size up on Falkens no bother especially as there is very little tyre protection and the side walls will look stretched therefore if you use OE sizes.

235/35 and 265/30 is a fair substitute for 225/40 and 255/35 etc

Stretched!! That does not sound good.

I am pretty sure fitting oversized tryes required you to inform insurance company...just don't want to given them a reason to bump up premium or decline a claim

TMP · 05-12-2011, 09:13 AM

Damn, tryes place says I need to wait for 452 (next wed) and with a slow puncture that's a bit of a pain.

Anybody got views on the ZE912?

rogerxp · 05-12-2011, 09:16 AM

Mate, the 452s do have tyre protection on them (think Mega needs to learn how to drive/park

), the 912s don't. The 452s are built more for a 'sporty' drive whereas the 912s more for comfort (motorways). Think you're best getting the 452s mate.

This was certainly my understanding when I got mine 2 years ago.

Try Arthur on 0161 928 7024 (he runs ATS in Altrincham), tell him I sent you, he'll look after you for price and, more importantly, will look after you, your alloys and your tyres.

TMP · 05-12-2011, 09:41 AM

Thanks mate, Arthur is getting some quotes on 452.

(So defo not 912s then)

davyk31 · 05-12-2011, 09:48 AM

Why not try Blackcircles or some online seller, they can arrange fitting locally and you may save a decent amount.

TMP · 05-12-2011, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by davyk31

Why not try Blackcircles or some online seller, they can arrange fitting locally and you may save a decent amount.

Using event tyres, they come out...452s fitted for just £436! (but next wed when they are in stock)

rogerxp · 05-12-2011, 10:01 AM

Or eBay mate...

Two of these...
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/225-40-18-FALK...item5d2e79b2de
or
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/225-40-18-92Y-...item27ba79b5fc

and this pair...
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2X-New-255-35-...item255df905d6

...are the cheapest around

.

edit - that price from Event is good. They did mine when Ant at Speed Religion sorted them out for me.

TMP · 05-12-2011, 10:37 AM

Yep, great price. Will see what Artheur comes back with otherwise will wait.
Edit- he came in at £440' so good price but can't get them to end of next week

eBay price is good, but would have to get them for 2 diff supplier then sort fitting

MEGA · 05-12-2011, 10:38 AM

camskill is usually cheapest and next day delivery! ordered at least 5 sets of tyres from them..

toxicnerve · 05-12-2011, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TMP

Using event tyres, they come out...452s fitted for just £436! (but next wed when they are in stock)

Balls!

I paid £575 just a few weeks ago from Event!

EDIT: Ah you're on 18s. Makes sense.

Roger,

The rim protection on the 452s is non-existent mate! Let me get a pic and show you...

rogerxp · 05-12-2011, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by toxicnerve

Roger, The rim protection on the 452s is non-existent mate! Let me get a pic and show you...

Admittedly there are bigger protectors around but there's some protection (from what I recall). Happy to be proved otherwise though.

toxicnerve · 05-12-2011, 11:55 AM

That pic above is a 235 section tyre on a 225 wheel. Nothing to save you there at all!

The OEM Bridgestones had a nice bit of protection (even that could have been meatier though).

I think Mega is right (see, I don't disagree with everything you say), I don't get how a 225 section tyre would go onto those wheels without looking "stretched". It just wouldn't look right because even the 235 looks a little narrow on it. Same goes for the 265 tyre on the 255 wheel on the back.

It's kinda weird if you ask me because (not that you can tell from that picture) the edge of the rim is actually proud of the rubber.

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MEGA Dieseasal 204 Rep 6,881 Posts Drives: LCI E92 335d M-Sport Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Harrow, London iTrader: (2)	You can run one size up on Falkens no bother especially as there is very little tyre protection and the side walls will look stretched therefore if you use OE sizes. 235/35 and 265/30 is a fair substitute for 225/40 and 255/35 etc __________________ Previously: 2003 Peugeot 206 1.6 8v \| 2006 E90 320d M-Sport, 19" BBS CH, Full Ice-cold JL audio install, August 2010 Total BMW 6 page feature car. \| 2003 Nissan 350Z GT Coupe 286BHP Now:2010 E92 LCI 335d M-Sport
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TMP Brigadier General 349 Rep 3,022 Posts Drives: M6 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Cheshire iTrader: (0)	Damn, tryes place says I need to wait for 452 (next wed) and with a slow puncture that's a bit of a pain. Anybody got views on the ZE912? __________________ M2 Arrived! Family 5er
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TMP Brigadier General 349 Rep 3,022 Posts Drives: M6 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Cheshire iTrader: (0)	Thanks mate, Arthur is getting some quotes on 452. (So defo not 912s then) __________________ M2 Arrived! Family 5er
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TMP Brigadier General 349 Rep 3,022 Posts Drives: M6 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Cheshire iTrader: (0)	Yep, great price. Will see what Artheur comes back with otherwise will wait. Edit- he came in at £440' so good price but can't get them to end of next week eBay price is good, but would have to get them for 2 diff supplier then sort fitting __________________ M2 Arrived! Family 5er Last edited by TMP; 05-12-2011 at 10:43 AM..
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toxicnerve Colonel 97 Rep 2,834 Posts Drives: E92 335d M-Sport Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: UK iTrader: (2)	That pic above is a 235 section tyre on a 225 wheel. Nothing to save you there at all! The OEM Bridgestones had a nice bit of protection (even that could have been meatier though). I think Mega is right (see, I don't disagree with everything you say), I don't get how a 225 section tyre would go onto those wheels without looking "stretched". It just wouldn't look right because even the 235 looks a little narrow on it. Same goes for the 265 tyre on the 255 wheel on the back. It's kinda weird if you ask me because (not that you can tell from that picture) the edge of the rim is actually proud of the rubber.
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