[zz328xi]

I bought a 2007 cpo 328xi, they swindled me in to buying the tire protection plan. I didn't realize what kind of crappy tires they used b ut after 5k miles, they're bald.

Any suggestions? It's only been since the end of October that I've had the car. All highway driving. Is the dealership liable? I'm still under 50k miles so I have full service etc on the car.

-z

[John 070]

Wouldn't it had been funny if you pulled out a tread depth gauge when you were picking up that car? I will if I ever buy used. Because the warranty doesn't even cover once it reaches 2/32. And many tire protection plans are pro-rata and expire after time not depth. What do I know, they swindled me too, $390 for a tire protection I've never used in 50 mos. on the road. It lasts for 60 mos.

[zz328xi]

I'm a little irritated about it. I called the stealorship today but the manager was out. Snow storms in NY, pain in the ass. I guess I know next time but I told the guy, you charge me all that money, I would have put is towards a new set of tires. also mentioned that I acknowledge the fact that it's a used car but, 5k miles? W T F

[Murph335]

continental extreme contact if you need aggressive sizes. i think they are rated to something like 40k miles.

[tomz17]

Originally Posted by zz328xi

I bought a 2007 cpo 328xi, they swindled me in to buying the tire protection plan. I didn't realize what kind of crappy tires they used b ut after 5k miles, they're bald.

Any suggestions? It's only been since the end of October that I've had the car. All highway driving. Is the dealership liable? I'm still under 50k miles so I have full service etc on the car.

-z

Liable? Hardly... You don't even know what kind of tires you are having a problem with (hint : crappy tires is not a tire manufacturer). You don't strike me as a particularly informed used car buyer...

How much tread was on the tires when you bought them? Did you even inspect them at purchase? Did you have the car inspected?

What brand/model of tire are they? What is the wear grade?

Look at this from the dealer's perspective... Do you have any way to prove that you consistently maintained proper alignment and inflation during the period of use? Any way to prove the tires weren't tracked for the past 5k miles (hint : nope)

As for the tire protection.... You *chose* to buy the optional tire protection plan on *those* particular tires. The brand, model, and condition were all in plain sight for you to inspect prior to purchase. Nothing was hidden from you at the time of sale, and nothing was misrepresented. It's a USED car with presumably USED tires. Even if it were a NEW car with NEW tires you would still be SOL. Unless your sales contract specifically includes a clause guaranteeing the subsequent tire wear the dealer is NOT liable for your uninformed choices.

[John 070]

There was a SIB on Turanza (guessing from memory) EL42 rft's? I took my car in when it was 2 y.o. and they agreed the treads were scalloped, but said it's normal (the car had 9k at the time) and the SIB was not for the RE050A's, but for the Turanzas. But I think the mileage limits were 10k for replacement, and 20k for pro-rata, or something....

[zz328xi]

I mispoke buy saying crappy tires. Meaning, they lasted 5k on a certified pre-owned vehicle = crappy to me. This is the first used car I've ever bought (always bought new) , and yes, I guess I was ignorant not to check these things.

These tires are OEM continentals. I understand your points, but seriously, this is BMW, not `Al's used car lot`, they change your oil for free, brakes, everything else under the sun but put bad tires on the car.. I guess I just feel a little cheated.

Has anyone ever had experience with this?

[John 070]

Originally Posted by tomz17

the dealer is NOT liable for your uninformed choices.

I agree with caveat emptor, but BMW dealerships seem to me to often be a bit more shady than other cars. Take getting a N54 fixed right as an example. When I ordered my E92 335 in Oct. 2006, that dealership in Kings co. beat anyone's quote, they were the ONLY dealership with a 2 as the first digit in the 4-figure discount. Some of the dealerships had only a 3-figure discount at the time as NO E92's were in stock, not anywhere. But I said no thanks and good riddens because this forum had multiple people who got burned there. Were all of them uninformed? Maybe, maybe not.

[zz328xi]

Anyone have any experience with the BMW OF HUdson Valley Dealership in Poughkeepsie, NY?

[hwa786]

I got mine with 24k miles, now i have 30k, and my tires are going bald, so they never changed my tires or idk what happened, i never inspected the tires myself either

[zz328xi]

Originally Posted by hwa786

I got mine with 24k miles, now i have 30k, and my tires are going bald, so they never changed my tires or idk what happened, i never inspected the tires myself either

Did you talk to the dealership about it?

[tomz17]

Originally Posted by zz328xi

I mispoke buy saying crappy tires. Meaning, they lasted 5k on a certified pre-owned vehicle = crappy to me. This is the first used car I've ever bought (always bought new) , and yes, I guess I was ignorant not to check these things.

These tires are OEM continentals. I understand your points, but seriously, this is BMW, not `Al's used car lot`, they change your oil for free, brakes, everything else under the sun but put bad tires on the car.. I guess I just feel a little cheated.

Has anyone ever had experience with this?

Despite my earlier harsh tone, I do agree that 5k is very weak for the conti non-sport tires. The minimum for CPO is 3mm tread depth (which is only like 4/32 inch)... you must have gotten the minimum. Like a previous poster said, caveat emptor when buying a used car! Sucks... but I just really don't think the dealer has any real responsibility to you here.

[zz328xi]

Originally Posted by tomz17

Despite my earlier harsh tone, I do agree that 5k is very weak for the conti non-sport tires. The minimum for CPO is 3mm tread depth (which is only like 4/32 inch)... you must have gotten the minimum. Like a previous poster said, caveat emptor when buying a used car! Sucks... but I just really don't think the dealer has any real responsibility to you here.

It's fine, I'm hear to get opinions. Was just wondering if I have any ground to stand on. They aren't responsible but do you think they MAY work something out with me? I mean, hell, I'd be happy if they ate 50% of the cost of new tires, mounted and balanced. Just something.

[jopa489]

Originally Posted by zz328xi

It's fine, I'm hear to get opinions. Was just wondering if I have any ground to stand on. They aren't responsible but do you think they MAY work something out with me? I mean, hell, I'd be happy if they ate 50% of the cost of new tires, mounted and balanced. Just something.

They might goodwill you some sort of deal, but you're going to have to push. Do you have any documentation as to what the tread depth was when you bought the car? I haven't purchased CPO before - do they give you some sort of inspection check sheet?

[zz328xi]

Originally Posted by jopa489

They might goodwill you some sort of deal, but you're going to have to push. Do you have any documentation as to what the tread depth was when you bought the car? I haven't purchased CPO before - do they give you some sort of inspection check sheet?

I'd have to go through all the paper work. I'm not sure. But that's a great idea! Thanks for the tip

[JayKay335i]

Are they all evenly worn? And as stated, you should always check the tread depth before purchasing and be aware of what you may be purchasing.

My Turanzas lasted to 30k and I ditched them for some General UHPs.

[Juiced46]

The tire protection plan doesnt cover the tires from wearing out. It covers, nails, cracks in the wheels etc etc, and they will replace it for free it something gets damaged which is a good deal to me. When you bought the car it was USED meaning the tires were also USED, unless the dealership changed them but obviously they didnt. Minimum tread depth measured from the wear bar on a CPO car must be 3mm. Sounds like they were right at the minimum when you purchased the car. You should have noticed this when buying the vehicle. Who doesnt look at the tires when purchasing a used car?? Check your paperwork, you should have some sort of inspection sheet showing the tire specs.

[lopealle]

I think the tires were the last thing I checked before I left the dealer. I had them lift the car and everything. If all else fails and they don't stand behind you. I'm sure you could afford to change the tires Good Luck

[amarth1972]

Do what I did, sell the junk bridgestones and get Continental DW immediately, I sold my tires for $200, they were pretty new but still pieces of crap !!! When they asked about tire protection I said the only protection I need is to get those POS off my car !!!

Seriously I would love to meet the guy at BMW who decided to have them use those, hopefully he got fired !!!

[JayKay335i]

Originally Posted by desslok40

Do what I did, sell the junk bridgestones and get Continental DW immediately, I sold my tires for $200, they were pretty new but still pieces of crap !!! When they asked about tire protection I said the only protection I need is to get those POS off my car !!!

Seriously I would love to meet the guy at BMW who decided to have them use those, hopefully he got fired !!!

I'd probably stick with the turanzas over conti DW. I enjoyed the RFTs. The stiff side wall was nice. They took the bumps a bit harshly but oh well. The only reason I switched was because I wasnt looking to spend $1k on new tires.

[John 070]

Originally Posted by JayKay335i

I'd probably stick with the turanzas over conti DW. I enjoyed the RFTs. The stiff side wall was nice. They took the bumps a bit harshly but oh well. The only reason I switched was because I wasnt looking to spend $1k on new tires.

I've hit some nasty potholes with my RFT's and 189's--fully expecting to have a bent rim upon inspection. Never happened. I wonder if the RFT's saved me. because I do not have RFT's for my snows. When I see another 335 at work, with the same sized 225/40-18 winters but RFT, his tires have a different bulge/shape than mine, as if the RFT's wrap around the rim...I wonder if they offer some sort of protection despite being stiff.

[ChasVS]

Tire Warranty on used car tires are Profit for the Dealer only. Uniformed buyers are thier Dream!