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      11-07-2010, 12:49 AM   #1
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Question Question On BMW "Pull Ahead" Program...

from another thread i read: "those who has leased a car later 07 and are nearing end of lease have the option of coming out early within last 3 months of lease without paying early lease termination. This may be good if you want to take advantage of deals going on or if you are over on your miles and want to get in a new lease. Again BMW will not charge you for the last 3 months. The program started 11/2 and ends 4/31."

i have a 08 328i lease ending this mid april. so i can get a new car 3 months before my lease is up and not pay any over miles, fees, etc and hop in a new car?

does this only apply for lease, finance, or both? does it also apply to m cars?
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from another thread i read: "those who has leased a car later 07 and are nearing end of lease have the option of coming out early within last 3 months of lease without paying early lease termination. This may be good if you want to take advantage of deals going on or if you are over on your miles and want to get in a new lease. Again BMW will not charge you for the last 3 months. The program started 11/2 and ends 4/31."

i have a 08 328i lease ending this mid april. so i can get a new car 3 months before my lease is up and not pay any over miles, fees, etc and hop in a new car?

does this only apply for lease, finance, or both?
Sounds like for an existing lease customer to get into a new lease. MB has been doing this for certain of their models for a long time now, the deals are also much better, 6 months not 3 months.

I don't think you can get away with not paying mileage charge if you have already gone over the total mileage allowance, but if you anticipate you will go over the total miles by the end of the lease, but not going over it yet three months before the lease end, this might be a way to avoid the charge.

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damn benz got 6 months, thats nice. i think it just recent bmw starting doing this, but anyone can validate?
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My lease is up in March! Does BMW contact you?
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Sounds like BMW Marketing has hit a home run. Internal documents probably refer to it as a customer "left behind" program.
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So if you have an x35i with HPFP problems, you can't technically be part of "Pull Ahead"?
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So if you have an x35i with HPFP problems, you can't technically be part of "Pull Ahead"?
Why not? This is a warranty issue not excess lease wear and tear. Just make sure it is repaired before the lease return.
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they want to move older model before the new one hits the market... nice move by BMW
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      11-08-2010, 01:22 PM   #9
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nobody knows more depth details ?
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So if you have an x35i with HPFP problems, you can't technically be part of "Pull Ahead"?
Not unless you originally leased it as part of the "Reach Around" program
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Stop dreaming, they will only take your car if it is worth more than the current market value, lower mileage etc. I was in the same situation few years back. The dealer have to actually buy back the car, if it is worth less than what they can sell it for they will never do that and will come up with any kind of excuse. Pull ahead program is the game where only bmw or dealer wins.
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Stop dreaming, they will only take your car if it is worth more than the current market value, lower mileage etc. I was in the same situation few years back. The dealer have to actually buy back the car, if it is worth less than what they can sell it for they will never do that and will come up with any kind of excuse. Pull ahead program is the game where only bmw or dealer wins.
Not so fast. I am not saying you are wrong to call the “pull ahead program” bogus. Maybe BMW does not have one but some dealer tried to get people in to lease a new car tried to make a story of it.

But if there is such a pull ahead program, it will have nothing to do with if the car is worth more or less than its market value. The nature of a closed end lease is so that at the end of the lease the bank gets the car back, and the consumer walks away from it, regardless of its market value, provided the car is in acceptable conditions.

So if the car is undervalued now, it will likely be so three months from now, BMW has no reason to deny you from using the pull ahead program, it changes nothing, BMW will have to let you return the car three months from now anyway. The difference is, if they take your car in now, they get to lease you another new car, put the number on the board, if you wait three more months to return it to BMW, they don’t have any guaranty you will lease another new car from them.
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from another thread i read: "those who has leased a car later 07 and are nearing end of lease have the option of coming out early within last 3 months of lease without paying early lease termination. This may be good if you want to take advantage of deals going on or if you are over on your miles and want to get in a new lease. Again BMW will not charge you for the last 3 months. The program started 11/2 and ends 4/31."

i have a 08 328i lease ending this mid april. so i can get a new car 3 months before my lease is up and not pay any over miles, fees, etc and hop in a new car?

does this only apply for lease, finance, or both? does it also apply to m cars?
No. At the core, this is simply a marketing scheme to get you into a new car and into a new contract with BMWFS. You get giddy for getting a new car 3 months early, and they lock you in for another couple of years rather than you weighing options at MB/Audi near the end of your lease. Unless you can (separately) negotiate otherwise with your CA, you will pay over miles and excessive wear/tear. Your security deposit gets applied to the new lease. It applies to any leased BMW, not just M division.

That said, it's not a bad deal. If you want to lease another BMW anyway, you might as well get it sooner. Unless you're waiting for something specific. If you lease ends mid-April, start thinking about this in late December if you want to order the new car. Later if you're happy taking something from inventory.
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Unless you can (separately) negotiate otherwise with your CA, you will pay over miles
It depends, say you have a 12k mi/year for 3yr lease, you are three months from the lease end but have 36K miles on you car already. If you drive the same average till the end of lease you will have about $650 mileage penalty. But if you turn your car in now as part of the pull ahead program BMW will not charge you that amount because there is no provision in the lease agreement to penalize you on the miles by some anticipated use, only how many you have driven per year at the lease return.

I know for a fact a friend of us took the advantage of the MB pull ahead deal, she was actually over the total miles with 5 months left on her lease, MB did not charge her over miles when she agreed to lease a new one.
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It depends, say you have a 12k mi/year for 3yr lease, you are three months from the lease end but have 36K miles on you car already. If you drive the same average till the end of lease you will have about $650 mileage penalty. But if you turn your car in now as part of the pull ahead program BMW will not charge you that amount because there is no provision in the lease agreement to penalize you on the miles by some anticipated use, only how many you have driven per year at the lease return.

I know for a fact a friend of us took the advantage of the MB pull ahead deal, she was actually over the total miles with 5 months left on her lease, MB did not charge her over miles when she agreed to lease a new one.
Yes, that's correct. Sorry for not being clear, but I meant miles exceeding your contracted limit. So that's another common reason people use the pull ahead program.
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BMW pull ahead to Mini Cooper

Has anyone did the pull ahead program with cross brand? My current BMW lease about to end and is trying to get into a mini. Since they are backed by the same bank, it shouldn't be an issue right? I've gotten conflicting feedbacks on it.

Appreciate it if anyone has any information.
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Has anyone did the pull ahead program with cross brand? My current BMW lease about to end and is trying to get into a mini. Since they are backed by the same bank, it shouldn't be an issue right? I've gotten conflicting feedbacks on it.

Appreciate it if anyone has any information.
Best way to find out would be to go into the dealer and talk to them. Obviously its better to go to a BMW dealer with a MINI dealer attached.
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They have pull ahead campaigns when trying to move units. It's not "always" available. Talk to the dealer. If they're really motivated they might help you out, but it would probably be the dealer covering it rather than BMWFS.
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No. At the core, this is simply a marketing scheme to get you into a new car and into a new contract with BMWFS. You get giddy for getting a new car 3 months early, and they lock you in for another couple of years rather than you weighing options at MB/Audi near the end of your lease. Unless you can (separately) negotiate otherwise with your CA, you will pay over miles and excessive wear/tear. Your security deposit gets applied to the new lease. It applies to any leased BMW, not just M division.

That said, it's not a bad deal. If you want to lease another BMW anyway, you might as well get it sooner. Unless you're waiting for something specific. If you lease ends mid-April, start thinking about this in late December if you want to order the new car. Later if you're happy taking something from inventory.
+1 Well stated!
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While we're bringing up 3 year old threads, might as well ask this. Is the pull ahead program (when available) applicable only to new car leases/financing or does it work for CPO cars too? Anyone know if it's ever (if so, how often) been around in Canuckistan?
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While we're bringing up 3 year old threads, might as well ask this. Is the pull ahead program (when available) applicable only to new car leases/financing or does it work for CPO cars too? Anyone know if it's ever (if so, how often) been around in Canuckistan?
I've never seen a pull ahead program offered on a CPO lease. But CPO leases are not as common in general.
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