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      11-03-2010, 06:17 PM   #1
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HPFP Failure please help.

Hi I was driving home from work today and I was in traffic at a red light, when all of the sudden the car started to vibrate violently, and the service engine soon light came on. The vibration had happened one other time before, so I just turned off the car and turned it back and and it was fine, so I did the same this time and it went away, but the light was still there. So I drove home carefully and plugged in my OBD II and the error code P142E came on. I checked on google it was the HPFP failure. My question is if I leave it at the dealer tomorrow what is the estimated fix time for this issue?
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      11-03-2010, 06:48 PM   #2
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Usually takes a couple days, or more. They have to diagnose, get BMW NA ok to replace the pump, do the work, reprogram the car, and test.

Figure two days, minimum, could be more. Get a loaner.
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Usually takes a couple days, or more. They have to diagnose, get BMW NA ok to replace the pump, do the work, reprogram the car, and test.

Figure two days, minimum, could be more. Get a loaner.
This dealership keeps saying crap about how I am to make a 3 week ahead schedule in order to get a loaner which is just ridiculous. I guess im not a high paying customer for them.
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Did you purchase the car from the dealer? Even if they won't give a dealer loaner most dealerships in major markets have arrangements with rental agencies, whereas it might cost you $40 or something it's better than nothing. Try that
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      11-03-2010, 07:01 PM   #5
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just had my HPFP replaced couple days ago.

Took the whole weekend + Monday, total time in shop ~ 4 days

BMW needs to get this issue resolved. After the ABC investigation, things are picking up, and rightfully so. If someone has died because of this issue, BMW will be in a world of hurt.

You will most likely get the RMFD 933 HPFP. Its actually newer than the 943 pump. So far, I do not see any known HPFP failures from using the 933 HPFP as of yet.
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Yea this dealership wont honor anything. Although I did purchase the vehicle from them. Yes I was scared to go on the highway on my way back from work as I had no idea what was wrong with the car. It was shaking violently. The car seems to be lacking power now. Hopefully the new HPFP wont have this problem, my car only has 15k miles.
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Welcome to the hpfp club :)

Ure cherry has been poked .... The first one is hard then u get used to it...
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Ure cherry has been poked .... The first one is hard then u get used to it...
lol i had my water pump go on me at 13k miles, which was last month, car died in the middle of the highway then when restarted went into a 10mph limp mode. Had anti-freeze blown everywhere inside the hood.
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my 933 is going- headed to shop tomorrow. getting 2aaf code- fuel pump plausability
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Hi I was driving home from work today and I was in traffic at a red light, when all of the sudden the car started to vibrate violently, and the service engine soon light came on. The vibration had happened one other time before, so I just turned off the car and turned it back and and it was fine, so I did the same this time and it went away, but the light was still there. So I drove home carefully and plugged in my OBD II and the error code P142E came on. I checked on google it was the HPFP failure. My question is if I leave it at the dealer tomorrow what is the estimated fix time for this issue?
Does it matter? Get a loaner and they can have it for 3 weeks.
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If no codes are being thrown use Chevron Techron fuel injector cleaner (concentrate). It solves rpm fluctuating upon cold start-up. Also, for most BMW problems start off by scanning your car with the Peake Research Tool. It contains the actual BMW codes. If you want to register a newly installed battery for free (just buy a $10 cable) and google/download BMWLogger
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Does it matter? Get a loaner and they can have it for 3 weeks.
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It took one full day to replace my pump, injectors, and plugs.

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This dealership keeps saying crap about how I am to make a 3 week ahead schedule in order to get a loaner which is just ridiculous. I guess im not a high paying customer for them.
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Opps.....anyway, go to a different dealer. I don't understand why people take crap from a dealer. I live about 1 mile from a bmw dealer but they suck, so I travel 40 minutes to have warranty work performed at another BMW dealer. There are plenty of bmw dealers in the tri-state area.

Edit: I know you're scared to go on the highway, but there are no alternate dealers near that dealer or same distance to that delaer?
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If you don't feel comfortable driving it, call another dealer and ask them to tow it in. The dealers are used to this by now.
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Obviously they are out of loaners so you have 2 choices here...
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They arent out of loaners I see the loaner 3 series parked infront. There is only one other dealer in my are which is in manhattan area, and I think they are just worse. Im gonna ask for a loaner from all their supervisors until they give me one.
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Mine went out on monday and took it on at 8:45am with no appointment and it was done by 3:30pm same day.
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just had my HPFP replaced couple days ago.

Took the whole weekend + Monday, total time in shop ~ 4 days

BMW needs to get this issue resolved. After the ABC investigation, things are picking up, and rightfully so. If someone has died because of this issue, BMW will be in a world of hurt.

You will most likely get the RMFD 933 HPFP. Its actually newer than the 943 pump. So far, I do not see any known HPFP failures from using the 933 HPFP as of yet.
Probably not. I remember some cop went off a cliff on his run away lexus. Last I heard they were still selling cars by the thousands...
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Opps.....anyway, go to a different dealer. I don't understand why people take crap from a dealer. I live about 1 mile from a bmw dealer but they suck, so I travel 40 minutes to have warranty work performed at another BMW dealer. There are plenty of bmw dealers in the tri-state area.

Edit: I know you're scared to go on the highway, but there are no alternate dealers near that dealer or same distance to that delaer?
I can answer that question, ideally, we do not take time off from work to deal with the car. And so at least in my case, I want to pick up a loaner, go to work, drop off the loaner after work (new dealer has drop off until 7:45 pm). With 14 hour work days, it's pretty tough to be able to simply "travel 40 minutes" out of the way to go to another dealership. Luckily, I switched jobs which has more reasonable 55-60 hour work weeks, and in another area. This new dealership is way way more expensive, their prices are out of this world. However, when you're under warranty it doesn't matter. The facility has like 50 bays? and a girl with big **** always greets you and holds the door for you, pretty ridiculous experience when compared to my selling dealership. They are downright rude and got upset when I gave them all zeros.
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Here are the fault codes I had when they replaced the HPFP last week:

"FC 29F2 and 29DC stored in DME."
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I can answer that question, ideally, we do not take time off from work to deal with the car. And so at least in my case, I want to pick up a loaner, go to work, drop off the loaner after work (new dealer has drop off until 7:45 pm). With 14 hour work days, it's pretty tough to be able to simply "travel 40 minutes" out of the way to go to another dealership. Luckily, I switched jobs which has more reasonable 55-60 hour work weeks, and in another area. This new dealership is way way more expensive, their prices are out of this world. However, when you're under warranty it doesn't matter. The facility has like 50 bays? and a girl with big **** always greets you and holds the door for you, pretty ridiculous experience when compared to my selling dealership. They are downright rude and got upset when I gave them all zeros.
Schedule an appointment and loaner for Saturday? Don't tell me you work on Saturday too! If you do, get another job. Work to live, don't live to work.
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I dropped mine off on a Wednesday night and it was done the next afternoon, maybe my dealer stocks the parts but it was painless and has worked fine for 9k miles. Good luck.
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