CPO??

ChuckBMW3 · 11-01-2010, 02:43 PM

I apologize in advance if this has been discussed elsewhere, but my question is why would a dealership opt to not CPO one of their cars? More specifically, a 2009 e90 335i with around 14k miles. One would think a dealership wouldn't think twice about certifying a car this young with so few miles. Someone please enlighten me on the certification process. Thanks!

bimmer_335 · 11-01-2010, 02:55 PM

Is this a BMW dealership we are talking about?

ChuckBMW3 · 11-01-2010, 02:57 PM

Yes it's a BMW dealer in central Florida.

Buegie · 11-01-2010, 03:33 PM

they will if you ask them to...

timmahh · 11-01-2010, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChuckBMW3

I apologize in advance if this has been discussed elsewhere, but my question is why would a dealership opt to not CPO one of their cars? More specifically, a 2009 e90 335i with around 14k miles. One would think a dealership wouldn't think twice about certifying a car this young with so few miles. Someone please enlighten me on the certification process. Thanks!

It might be for cost/selling purposes; maybe making it CPO brings the cost/price too close to a new 2010 or 2011 model they have on the lot and they want to move the used cars first..

/shrug

bimmer_335 · 11-01-2010, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Buegie

they will if you ask them to...

+1
There is a cost associated with getting a car CPO'd... if a dealer thinks they can sell the car without it and make a decent profit... then why not, it makes business sense. But if it sits in their lot for 4 weeks they will be more inclined to get it done. That is if the car is clean and not been in a wreck/frame damaged... which is another possibility its not CPO'd. You can simply ask the dealer and they will let you know.

SCMike · 11-01-2010, 04:50 PM

In today's market, with the current 335i HPFP "news", I can't believe that the dealer would be able to find any (knowledgeable) buyers for an '09 without CPO'ing the car. I for one would not touch an unCPO'd 335i. I don't even think that much of a price premium can be assigned to a CPO versus a nonCPO - it is simply a condition of sale. No CPO means no sale. Look elsewhere. It worked for me.

EDM92 · 11-01-2010, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChuckBMW3

Yes it's a BMW dealer in central Florida.

Fields in South Orlando or Fields in Winter Park?

ChuckBMW3 · 11-01-2010, 06:24 PM

Thanks for the responses everyone!

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMWorNOTHING

Fields in South Orlando or Fields in Winter Park?

Fields in Winter Park. The car has been on the lot for a few months as a non-CPO, so I'm wondering if something could in fact be wrong with the car

Express · 11-01-2010, 06:31 PM

probably been in an accident.

benzo23 · 11-01-2010, 06:40 PM

Unless they cpo it for you i would walk, 335i's are everywhere...central and south fl esp.

JohnnyT · 11-01-2010, 07:08 PM

The CPO is necessary to get the additional 2 yr/50k warranty but the process is a JOKE.

In Sept, bought my 2009 e90 328i with 14k miles. Was priced at $26600. It was NOT a CPO. I told them I wanted to CPO it because I was told the extended warranty on the car would be $3k extra. I figured if was CPO'd I'd get the warranty. They told me it would be $2k to CPO the car. I told them I needed them to do better than that, think hard about how they could do better, and I'd call them back after my meeting at work. They did it for $28k even - or $1400 for the CPO or really the extended warranty. IT IS VERY NEGOTIABLE. I should have been a bigger hard ass and got it lower in hindsight.

Anyway, they CPO'd it and it is just a joke. I don't believe they really check much of anything. A month later, it got cold and I got a low tire alert. Ok..... no problem. Went to another dealership since I was on the other side of the state and they said my tire pressures were all over the place. They also said I was due for a brake fluid and micro filter change. No charge for anything but SO MUCH FOR THE CPO PROCESS.

IMHO, they just check a bunch of boxes and sign it. But, I got the warranty out of it. That is all it is good for.

If anyone has a CPO checklist and it shows that something with the car was found and corrected, please speak up.

vartex · 11-01-2010, 07:50 PM

I think it varies by dealer. My dealer (number 1 CPO dealer in the country apparently) takes roughly 10 hours over a 3 day timespan to CPO a car. I know this because I was waiting for mine to get ready and they said that they do everything carefully here and would not speed up the process just to get me in the car. I even met with the manager of the dealership and was very impressed with the guy and the way he does business.

Surprisingly, I found this dealer to be very ethical considering I was expecting to be treated like dirt.

TurboFan · 11-01-2010, 09:14 PM

They may know something about the car. May have had an ECU tune? Accident? Ask them why it isn't CPO'd.

wrickem · 11-02-2010, 07:10 AM

They probably didn't want to spend the money on CPOing it since there's a pretty nice "balance of factory warranty" on it....or there's something wrong wiht the car.

11-01-2010, 02:43 PM	#1
ChuckBMW3 Lieutenant 12 Rep 433 Posts Drives: f30 335i Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Jacksonville, FL iTrader: (0)	CPO?? I apologize in advance if this has been discussed elsewhere, but my question is why would a dealership opt to not CPO one of their cars? More specifically, a 2009 e90 335i with around 14k miles. One would think a dealership wouldn't think twice about certifying a car this young with so few miles. Someone please enlighten me on the certification process. Thanks! __________________ f30 335i: Current e92 335i: Sold 10/29/2015 e90 328i: Sold 12/7/2013
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SCMike [ex-Stilyaga] 79 Rep 321 Posts Drives: Too slowly... Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Aiken, SC iTrader: (0)	In today's market, with the current 335i HPFP "news", I can't believe that the dealer would be able to find any (knowledgeable) buyers for an '09 without CPO'ing the car. I for one would not touch an unCPO'd 335i. I don't even think that much of a price premium can be assigned to a CPO versus a nonCPO - it is simply a condition of sale. No CPO means no sale. Look elsewhere. It worked for me. __________________ NOW: Der 2016 GlitzundBlitzWagen mit ZMP und ZTR und...PCD'd 28Oct15 GONE: 2009 335i Coupe with MPPK ... 2006 M3 Coupe with SMG
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benzo23 Colonel 74 Rep 2,848 Posts Drives: 14 F30 AW MSport Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: FL iTrader: (1)	Unless they cpo it for you i would walk, 335i's are everywhere...central and south fl esp.
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JohnnyT Second Lieutenant 25 Rep 253 Posts Drives: 2008 4Runner. Former 09 328i. Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Central New Jersey iTrader: (0)	The CPO is necessary to get the additional 2 yr/50k warranty but the process is a JOKE. In Sept, bought my 2009 e90 328i with 14k miles. Was priced at $26600. It was NOT a CPO. I told them I wanted to CPO it because I was told the extended warranty on the car would be $3k extra. I figured if was CPO'd I'd get the warranty. They told me it would be $2k to CPO the car. I told them I needed them to do better than that, think hard about how they could do better, and I'd call them back after my meeting at work. They did it for $28k even - or $1400 for the CPO or really the extended warranty. IT IS VERY NEGOTIABLE. I should have been a bigger hard ass and got it lower in hindsight. Anyway, they CPO'd it and it is just a joke. I don't believe they really check much of anything. A month later, it got cold and I got a low tire alert. Ok..... no problem. Went to another dealership since I was on the other side of the state and they said my tire pressures were all over the place. They also said I was due for a brake fluid and micro filter change. No charge for anything but SO MUCH FOR THE CPO PROCESS. IMHO, they just check a bunch of boxes and sign it. But, I got the warranty out of it. That is all it is good for. If anyone has a CPO checklist and it shows that something with the car was found and corrected, please speak up.
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vartex Enlisted Member 2 Rep 49 Posts Drives: 328i Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Houston iTrader: (0)	I think it varies by dealer. My dealer (number 1 CPO dealer in the country apparently) takes roughly 10 hours over a 3 day timespan to CPO a car. I know this because I was waiting for mine to get ready and they said that they do everything carefully here and would not speed up the process just to get me in the car. I even met with the manager of the dealership and was very impressed with the guy and the way he does business. Surprisingly, I found this dealer to be very ethical considering I was expecting to be treated like dirt.
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TurboFan Ski bum 317 Rep 6,198 Posts Drives: sideways Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Knee deep in the pow iTrader: (8)	They may know something about the car. May have had an ECU tune? Accident? Ask them why it isn't CPO'd. __________________ 1999 e46 328i Ti Silver / Black[retired] 2007 e90 335xi Jet Black / Black[retired] 2011 e70 X5 35d Vermillion Red / Cinnamon 2011 e92 M3 LeMans / Fox Red extended
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