[nukezero]

I took my car in to fix rear tail light short.

They told me they also want to perform a software update recall but that I would have to come back. I hesitated it.

THe car runs fine, drives fine, and starts up in 0.1 seconds every day.

Who's gotten the software update? Is it a lot worse than before?

I have a MY09 May build.

[ChasVS]

Are you at all aware of the firestorm Forum members have been having over the HPFP issue? BMW has now been issued and the recall requires a software update. Now that BMW is recalling alll potentially affected models, people are trying to figure out if they are going to comply or wait to see if their's fail before taking it in. If I were BMW I'd give owners 30 days to bring in their cars or pay for an HPFP failure on their own if it occurs after that.

[nukezero]

i'm well aware, i'm just saying the next time I go in for a scheduled maintainance, I don't think I can ignore and turn down their request to do a recall on the car.

if I decline their recall, they might say I forfeit my warranty and maintenance care program. so thats what i'm trying to figure out.

can i decline the recall? (software)
if so, will there be repercussions? will the dealers tell BMWNA and BMWNA will void my warranty/maintenance?

i don't think the software fix is the answer

[John 070]

Just do the update, I don't think you can turn it down. On my Nissan, there was an alternator recall where the car could catch fire. I waited another 3 years before going in, so I could put the wear/tear on the original alternator. My strategy has paid off because the car will be 13 in March.

On the 335, you only lose 15-20 HP with the new software, and the mpgs go down about 2-3 as well. Not the end of the world....

[nukezero]

Originally Posted by John 070

Just do the update, I don't think you can turn it down. On my Nissan, there was an alternator recall where the car could catch fire. I waited another 3 years before going in, so I could put the wear/tear on the original alternator. My strategy has paid off because the car will be 13 in March.

On the 335, you only lose 15-20 HP with the new software, and the mpgs go down about 2-3 as well. Not the end of the world....

15-20 hp?

no fu**ing way..... screw that recall then

[John 070]

Originally Posted by nukezero

15-20 hp?

no fu**ing way..... screw that recall then

Just kidding. I do think the car is slower, and I thought my mpgs went down, I'm pretty careful with that calculation. but it may have been a bad VANOS solenoid, who knows.

[dawiyo]

I'd suggest against it if they give you the choice. I absolutely cannot stand the new update and personally I think the car runs like shit. It seems like to get any sort of boost, the car has to downshift to get into the higher RPMs. I'm going to BMW of Arlington/Alexandria on Tuesday for an appointment to see if they can revert to the old tune.

[335beeeemer]

How would the update affect a manual transmission? I choose to downshift or not.

[idrift4wd]

Originally Posted by dawiyo

I'd suggest against it if they give you the choice. I absolutely cannot stand the new update and personally I think the car runs like shit. It seems like to get any sort of boost, the car has to downshift to get into the higher RPMs. I'm going to BMW of Arlington/Alexandria on Tuesday for an appointment to see if they can revert to the old tune.

tell me how that turns out

[techlogik]

Originally Posted by ChasVS

If I were BMW I'd give owners 30 days to bring in their cars or pay for an HPFP failure on their own if it occurs after that.

Glad you aren't BMW...what kind of logic is that?

[BayMoWe335]

Originally Posted by ChasVS

Are you at all aware of the firestorm Forum members have been having over the HPFP issue? BMW has now been issued and the recall requires a software update. Now that BMW is recalling alll potentially affected models, people are trying to figure out if they are going to comply or wait to see if their's fail before taking it in. If I were BMW I'd give owners 30 days to bring in their cars or pay for an HPFP failure on their own if it occurs after that.

That's one of the many reasons why you don't run BMW.

[John 070]

Originally Posted by 335beeeemer

How would the update affect a manual transmission? I choose to downshift or not.

I think it feels as if nothing is happening until higher rpms in 1st, like higher 2000's before the motor feels like it's powerful...and the ridiculous thing is if anybody touches your trunk or doorhandle (with CA), the pumps start whirring. I've forgotten my fob at my office or inside the house, and when I touched the car, the pumps were priming. How dumb is that? And we wonder why software programmers lose 2 million customers' social security numbers and dates of birth every other month...

[drjoe66]

I had the updateca few weeks ago and I feel absolutely no difference whatsoever.

[Tag]

I got the update couple of weeks ago too and if anything it feels faster. Seems like its different for everyone. Other than that the only real thing I notice is you can hear it prime the HPFP when you unlock the doors.

[dawiyo]

Originally Posted by idrift4wd

tell me how that turns out

Well, I brought it in to the dealer and they initially told me that they wouldn't be able to revert back because the HPFP problem may rear it's ugly head again and the most up-to-date software fixes that.

They then called me back and told me they did some research and found a way to revert it back. So now I'm on the older software and I can attest, it is a lot different than the newest update. Definitely a lot less turbo lag which means no more down shifting to reach boost.

[vasillalov]

Originally Posted by John 070

Just kidding. I do think the car is slower, and I thought my mpgs went down, I'm pretty careful with that calculation. but it may have been a bad VANOS solenoid, who knows.

Dude,

its the winter fuel blend! Stop spreading misinformation...

[aohus]

Originally Posted by John 070

Just do the update, I don't think you can turn it down. On my Nissan, there was an alternator recall where the car could catch fire. I waited another 3 years before going in, so I could put the wear/tear on the original alternator. My strategy has paid off because the car will be 13 in March.

On the 335, you only lose 15-20 HP with the new software, and the mpgs go down about 2-3 as well. Not the end of the world....

uh, why talk nonsense?

i just received new update / HPFP over the weekend and there is NO decrease in performance whatsoever, same with the MPGs, they're essentially the same.

[Turkish Mafia]

Originally Posted by aohus

uh, why talk nonsense?

i just received new update / HPFP over the weekend and there is NO decrease in performance whatsoever, same with the MPGs, they're essentially the same.

I second this. I had the new update about 2 months ago along with a new fuel pump for my 2007 335i coupe. The car feels the same, actually a tad bit faster, and the exhaust sounds a bit louder too. I know it's not my imagination because I also have a 2009 335i e93 (yes I realize that it weighs more, but I have test-driven 2007 335i e93's), which was very sluggish compared to my coupe when I first took delivery. However after a fuel pump change and update, this car experienced a more dramatic difference, it feels much faster and the exhaust definitely sounds louder.

The problem with the engine being knocked down a few hp was a problem experienced by many owners like two years ago. I can attest that this new software does not slow down the car. I have not paid attention to the MPG, so I cannot comment on that.

[dawiyo]

Originally Posted by Turkish Mafia

I can attest that this new software does not slow down the car.

I disagree. For me, it seemed like the point of hitting boost was raised in the newest update meaning if I needed just a little acceleration on the highway or something, the car would have to downshift and then fly forward because it'd be at ~3800rpms. With the older tune, boost came in sooner and the car wouldn't need to downshift to gain 5-10mph.

[335BBS]

Originally Posted by nukezero

i'm well aware, i'm just saying the next time I go in for a scheduled maintainance, I don't think I can ignore and turn down their request to do a recall on the car.

if I decline their recall, they might say I forfeit my warranty and maintenance care program. so thats what i'm trying to figure out.

can i decline the recall? (software)
if so, will there be repercussions? will the dealers tell BMWNA and BMWNA will void my warranty/maintenance?

i don't think the software fix is the answer

Whats your problem? So you know more about your car than they do? Thats the most rediculous thing I've heard in a long time. You'll wish you listened to them when you are on the side of the hwy with a dead fuel pump.

[335BBS]

Originally Posted by drjoe66

I had the updateca few weeks ago and I feel absolutely no difference whatsoever.

Exactly.THATS BECAUSE THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE.

[335BBS]

Originally Posted by dawiyo

I disagree. For me, it seemed like the point of hitting boost was raised in the newest update meaning if I needed just a little acceleration on the highway or something, the car would have to downshift and then fly forward because it'd be at ~3800rpms. With the older tune, boost came in sooner and the car wouldn't need to downshift to gain 5-10mph.

Get your tranny software re-done/updated.