DME programming recall

E46M3forRay · 08-21-2010, 08:13 PM

Hello everyone. I just picked up my wife's car at the dealership which was serviced and fixed under warranty for a faulty driver's side door actuator door lock. My wife dropped the car off this morning and according to the SA, there's a DME programming recall that needs to be performed. However, due to time constraint, SA adviced that the car will need to come back for the DME recall at another time.

So, Does anyone know what this DME recall is? Not sure if this is new but we picked up this excellent conditioned CPO'd '07 335i sedan on 4th of July with only 12k miles on the odo. I would've thought everything is up to current when we picked it up at the BMW dealership. I've searched and didn't find anything in regards to the question so hopefully, you guys have info first hand.

According to the paperwork, it's DME programming recall SIB #13-09-10

DTRJ · 08-21-2010, 08:20 PM

Here is a copy of the recall

SUBJECT
Service Action: N54 Program Control Units (DME for HDP)

MODEL
E60, E61, E71, E82, E88, E90, E92, E93, F01, F02 with the N54 engine produced from 02/06 to 03/10

CORRECTION
The new DME calibration improves the engine starting strategy and the robustness of the HDP high-pressure pump.

AFFECTED VEHICLES
This Service Action involves E60, E61, E71, E82, E88, E90, E92, E93, and F01, F02 vehicles with the N54 engine which were produced from 02/15/2006 to 03/03/2010.

PROCEDURE
Program/recode the vehicle using the current ISTA/P version (2.37.2 or later). The target integration levels should be:

E8x/E9x – Integration level (new): E89X-10-03-504 or higher

E71 – Integration level (new): E070-10-03-502 or higher

E6x – Integration level (new): E060-10-03-501 or higher

F01, F02 – Integration level (new): F010-10-03-504 or higher

Note that ISTA/P will automatically reprogram and code all programmable control modules that do not have the latest software.

For information on programming and coding with ISTA/P, refer to Centernet / Aftersales Portal / Service / Workshop Technology / Vehicle Programming.

E46M3forRay · 08-21-2010, 08:31 PM

Great.. thanks DTRJ! That was pretty quick.

Even though i'm fully aware of the HPFP issues, we actually haven't experienced this long engine cranking time (knock on wood) yet so this is good info to keep in mind. Sounds like BMW is trying to alleviate what is or could be related to the HPFP failure.

DTRJ · 08-21-2010, 08:35 PM

I am not sure but others have said this procedure allows the HPFP to prime itself sooner and eliminate some of the problems

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Originally Posted by E46M3forRay

Great.. thanks DTRJ! That was pretty quick.

Even though i'm fully aware of the HPFP issues, we actually haven't experienced this long engine cranking time (knock on wood) yet so this is good info to keep in mind. Sounds like BMW is trying to alleviate what is or could be related to the HPFP failure.

LagMode335i · 08-21-2010, 09:19 PM

Called my dealer; not a RECALL. It's done when a problem is perceived by the dealer. Personaly I hate the word recall; people use it like an ink pen. Refer to the NHSTA when when a recall is issued. Now if the dealer does not even know about a recall, that's another issue of training on the BMWNA area.

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Originally Posted by DTRJ

I am not sure but others have said this procedure allows the HPFP to prime itself sooner and eliminate some of the problems

mithiral67 · 08-21-2010, 09:22 PM

I got it, didnt notice a difference.

chromisdesigns · 08-21-2010, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LagMode335i

Called my dealer; not a RECALL. It's done when a problem is perceived by the dealer. Personaly I hate the word recall; people use it like an ink pen. Refer to the NHSTA when when a recall is issued. Now if the dealer does not even know about a recall, that's another issue of training on the BMWNA area.

My understanding is the dealer is supposed to do this for ANY twin-turbo that comes in the shop for any reason at all. Not just for suspected fuel pump problems. Several others have reported getting this done when they went in for a routine service.

LagMode335i · 08-21-2010, 09:51 PM

I repeat; I called my dealer. I can't say anymore about the matter.

MUNIK-FL · 08-25-2010, 02:22 PM

I received a call from my stealership here in Fort Myers, FL stating that "I needed a new DME." It was probably a slip of the tongue from the brain-dead service department receptionist, but that's what she said. I then received a confirmation email that outlined my service needs:

The following services have been selected for this appointment:

Recall Services:
RECALL FOR DME

That sounds like a recall to me! Maybe it is the stealership's misnomer.

Any way, I've been through two HPFP, a LPFP, and they replaced the entire fuel delivery system, including the fuel rails and I still get slow starts and sputtering under 75%+ throttle.

Is this hope that my problems are over!?!?! I am not picking it up until those problems are fixed this time!

stressdoc · 08-25-2010, 02:34 PM

Had mine in for brakes and SA noticed the call for reprogramming. Seems to drive OK -- not had it out for a good test yet though. Not sure what we have to do to get a 'performance' version that doesn't have the castrated wastegate protection tune.

treytreyfeva · 08-26-2010, 12:37 PM

Is anyone running a tune that had the DME reporgram done? My 07' e90 got reprogrammed yesterday and as soon as i got home and plugged in my JB+ i got a "service engine soon" light on the dash... And this morning on my way to work (W/JB+) i went into limp after the first hard run. I checked the connections on JB+ and they were fine, Also, the car runs strong and feels fine (at least until i went limp). Any thoughts?

treytreyfeva · 08-26-2010, 12:42 PM

Forgot to mention that the car seems to start up much faster now. I wasnt getting any long cranks, but it did take about a second to fire-up before the DME was reprogrammed. Now, it seems to be respond much faster when the start button is hit! Note: I had my HPFP replaced at 1200 miles so i dont have the newer/redisigned version...but, i havent had any issues with it and i'm at 60k miles now.

bkrM3 · 08-26-2010, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by treytreyfeva

Is anyone running a tune that had the DME reporgram done? My 07' e90 got reprogrammed yesterday and as soon as i got home and plugged in my JB+ i got a "service engine soon" light on the dash... And this morning on my way to work (W/JB+) i went into limp after the first hard run. I checked the connections on JB+ and they were fine, Also, the car runs strong and feels fine (at least until i went limp). Any thoughts?

Probably pretty obvious but did you make sure your car was "asleep" or unplug the battery before throwing the JB+ back in? It's pretty easy to forget to do this given how quick it is to install/uninstall.

treytreyfeva · 08-26-2010, 12:58 PM

Yeah, i made sure to unplug the battery before i took it out, and again after i put it back in.

E46M3forRay · 08-27-2010, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by treytreyfeva

Forgot to mention that the car seems to start up much faster now. I wasnt getting any long cranks, but it did take about a second to fire-up before the DME was reprogrammed. Now, it seems to be respond much faster when the start button is hit!

good to know!

PhiDeltBeers · 08-31-2010, 02:05 PM

It is definitely a recall. My dearlership called me a week ago to have me bring the car in for the B13 09 10 DME reprogram. Picked up the car this morning and after starting it, there isn't the 5 second period of rough idling that was there previosly. Will be putting the JB3 back on tonight after work.

Syndicategt · 08-31-2010, 02:30 PM

I went in for an oil change last weekend and came out with the upgraded DME and plugs. I had the last update version done to my car about a month ago, it caused the car to have trouble starting (ie longer cranks and rough idles) The new DME seems to have fixed both issues, so far so good!

MUNIK-FL · 08-31-2010, 08:00 PM

Same here - so far so good!

hjernazian · 08-31-2010, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by treytreyfeva

Is anyone running a tune that had the DME reporgram done? My 07' e90 got reprogrammed yesterday and as soon as i got home and plugged in my JB+ i got a "service engine soon" light on the dash... And this morning on my way to work (W/JB+) i went into limp after the first hard run. I checked the connections on JB+ and they were fine, Also, the car runs strong and feels fine (at least until i went limp). Any thoughts?

I haven't done the update but I have to say it's got me a bit worried since I am running a JB3. How the JB3 works is that it blocks certain signals from the CPU, if all the signals came in, then the JB3 would not work. I am not certain about this, but this is what I understand. If the update changes at all how the CPU works then I don't know how well the JB3 would work. Again, am not certain, but definitely worth running through Terry. If it is true though, I think the crew at burger would release a software update for the JB3.

ttomczak · 09-01-2010, 12:11 AM

I had the update done a couple of weeks ago... Put the PROcede in after the upgrade... Car runs amazing! A new V8 GTO tried to get playful and he was not happy with the result...

PhiDeltBeers · 09-01-2010, 10:07 AM

Put my JB3 back in last night after receiveing the update. Put it on Map 5 and

Magic Man · 09-01-2010, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DTRJ

Program/recode the vehicle using the current ISTA/P version (2.37.2 or later). The target integration levels should be:

E8x/E9x – Integration level (new): E89X-10-03-504 or higher

E71 – Integration level (new): E070-10-03-502 or higher

E6x – Integration level (new): E060-10-03-501 or higher

F01, F02 – Integration level (new): F010-10-03-504 or higher

Note that ISTA/P will automatically reprogram and code all programmable control modules that do not have the latest software.

Does this reset the transmission adaptations if the car already had the most recent software prior to the recall?

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DTRJ First Lieutenant 65 Rep 351 Posts Drives: 2024 X4 M40I Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: EAST COAST iTrader: (0)	Here is a copy of the recall SUBJECT Service Action: N54 Program Control Units (DME for HDP) MODEL E60, E61, E71, E82, E88, E90, E92, E93, F01, F02 with the N54 engine produced from 02/06 to 03/10 CORRECTION The new DME calibration improves the engine starting strategy and the robustness of the HDP high-pressure pump. AFFECTED VEHICLES This Service Action involves E60, E61, E71, E82, E88, E90, E92, E93, and F01, F02 vehicles with the N54 engine which were produced from 02/15/2006 to 03/03/2010. PROCEDURE Program/recode the vehicle using the current ISTA/P version (2.37.2 or later). The target integration levels should be: E8x/E9x – Integration level (new): E89X-10-03-504 or higher E71 – Integration level (new): E070-10-03-502 or higher E6x – Integration level (new): E060-10-03-501 or higher F01, F02 – Integration level (new): F010-10-03-504 or higher Note that ISTA/P will automatically reprogram and code all programmable control modules that do not have the latest software. For information on programming and coding with ISTA/P, refer to Centernet / Aftersales Portal / Service / Workshop Technology / Vehicle Programming. Last edited by DTRJ; 08-21-2010 at 08:34 PM..
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MUNIK-FL Lieutenant 28 Rep 451 Posts Drives: Nissan Titan XD Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Florida iTrader: (1)	I received a call from my stealership here in Fort Myers, FL stating that "I needed a new DME." It was probably a slip of the tongue from the brain-dead service department receptionist, but that's what she said. I then received a confirmation email that outlined my service needs: The following services have been selected for this appointment: Recall Services: RECALL FOR DME That sounds like a recall to me! Maybe it is the stealership's misnomer. Any way, I've been through two HPFP, a LPFP, and they replaced the entire fuel delivery system, including the fuel rails and I still get slow starts and sputtering under 75%+ throttle. Is this hope that my problems are over!?!?! I am not picking it up until those problems are fixed this time! __________________ 2007 E92 335i / Montego Blue/Black - European Delivery - Retired 2013 F10 550i / Alpine White/Cinnamon - Retired 2014 F10 M5 / Singapore Gray/Sakhir Orange - Retired 2016 F15 X5 XDrive50i / Black/Black - Current __________________________________________________
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stressdoc Moderator 618 Rep 10,858 Posts Drives: BMW i8; Toy 4runner TRD pro Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Waco TX iTrader: (0)	Had mine in for brakes and SA noticed the call for reprogramming. Seems to drive OK -- not had it out for a good test yet though. Not sure what we have to do to get a 'performance' version that doesn't have the castrated wastegate protection tune. __________________ My recent ED photos: http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1026808 my not-so-recent ED: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31829 Please join BMWCCA http://bmwcca.org/index.php?pageid=c...&ref_by=300279
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treytreyfeva Puro Pinche Party! 23 Rep 133 Posts Drives: 2007 E90 335i TiAG Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: SFV818 iTrader: (1)	Is anyone running a tune that had the DME reporgram done? My 07' e90 got reprogrammed yesterday and as soon as i got home and plugged in my JB+ i got a "service engine soon" light on the dash... And this morning on my way to work (W/JB+) i went into limp after the first hard run. I checked the connections on JB+ and they were fine, Also, the car runs strong and feels fine (at least until i went limp). Any thoughts?
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treytreyfeva Puro Pinche Party! 23 Rep 133 Posts Drives: 2007 E90 335i TiAG Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: SFV818 iTrader: (1)	Forgot to mention that the car seems to start up much faster now. I wasnt getting any long cranks, but it did take about a second to fire-up before the DME was reprogrammed. Now, it seems to be respond much faster when the start button is hit! Note: I had my HPFP replaced at 1200 miles so i dont have the newer/redisigned version...but, i havent had any issues with it and i'm at 60k miles now.
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treytreyfeva Puro Pinche Party! 23 Rep 133 Posts Drives: 2007 E90 335i TiAG Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: SFV818 iTrader: (1)	Yeah, i made sure to unplug the battery before i took it out, and again after i put it back in.
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PhiDeltBeers Lieutenant 96 Rep 552 Posts Drives: SEVERAL Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Tulsa, OK iTrader: (0)	It is definitely a recall. My dearlership called me a week ago to have me bring the car in for the B13 09 10 DME reprogram. Picked up the car this morning and after starting it, there isn't the 5 second period of rough idling that was there previosly. Will be putting the JB3 back on tonight after work. __________________ 2019 RANGE ROVER SPORT SUPERCHARGED; 2023 JEEP WRANGLER RUBICON 4XE 2022 AUDI R8 PERFORMANCE RWD; 2023 BMW M3 XDRIVE; 2017 MERCEDES G550; 2023 CORVETTE Z06 (ORDERED)
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Syndicategt Brigadier General 155 Rep 3,730 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Nor Cal iTrader: (11)	I went in for an oil change last weekend and came out with the upgraded DME and plugs. I had the last update version done to my car about a month ago, it caused the car to have trouble starting (ie longer cranks and rough idles) The new DME seems to have fixed both issues, so far so good! __________________ 2008 BMW 335i e90 - Sold - Rob Beck Turbos / PROcede V5 / Aquamist HFS-4 / AR Downpipes / AE Exhaust / ER Comp FMIC / ER CP / TiAL BOV / Custom Intake / RPI Scoops / Quaife LSD / Swift-Koni Coilovers / DSS HS / Morr VS8.2 Sig Black / Michelin PSS / P3 Boost Guage / M3 body / M3 steering wheel / Adam's Rotors / Hawk HPS / SS lines /
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MUNIK-FL Lieutenant 28 Rep 451 Posts Drives: Nissan Titan XD Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Florida iTrader: (1)	Same here - so far so good! __________________ 2007 E92 335i / Montego Blue/Black - European Delivery - Retired 2013 F10 550i / Alpine White/Cinnamon - Retired 2014 F10 M5 / Singapore Gray/Sakhir Orange - Retired 2016 F15 X5 XDrive50i / Black/Black - Current __________________________________________________
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ttomczak Private First Class 18 Rep 182 Posts Drives: 2015 X5 3.5 M-Sport Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: North Carolina iTrader: (5)	I had the update done a couple of weeks ago... Put the PROcede in after the upgrade... Car runs amazing! A new V8 GTO tried to get playful and he was not happy with the result... __________________ 2015 F15 X5 3.5i M-Sport SG Past Rides: 2001 E39 Dinan 5 - 2006 E63 M6 - 2007 335i E93 - 2007 X5 E70 4.8i - 2010 X5 E70 3.0i 2016 428ix M-Sport Gran Coupe - 2014 E71 X6M
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PhiDeltBeers Lieutenant 96 Rep 552 Posts Drives: SEVERAL Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Tulsa, OK iTrader: (0)	Put my JB3 back in last night after receiveing the update. Put it on Map 5 and __________________ 2019 RANGE ROVER SPORT SUPERCHARGED; 2023 JEEP WRANGLER RUBICON 4XE 2022 AUDI R8 PERFORMANCE RWD; 2023 BMW M3 XDRIVE; 2017 MERCEDES G550; 2023 CORVETTE Z06 (ORDERED)
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