Can someone confirm if e92 has no folding rear seats without winter package?

baltik · 12-31-2006, 01:21 PM

I just thought the winter package was the nozzles + ski sack + heated seats

noro · 12-31-2006, 01:29 PM

The US spec e92 335i has split rear folding seats as standard. I don't know about non-US but I assume it's the same.

Zeroday · 12-31-2006, 02:02 PM

It's my opinion that BMW is intentionally vague about this to sell more winter packages. I didn't get the winter package, just heated seats, and I have the split fold down seats in my 335i e92. really, the winter package is a ripoff imo. the headlight washers are useless and the ski sack is pretty darn close to useless.

Utekai · 12-31-2006, 02:22 PM

Yeah, I just get the heated seats, the rest is a waste.

The coupe comes with fold-down rear seats regardless of options. It's a coupe thing ...

baltik · 12-31-2006, 02:22 PM

phew thanks - thought I had to change my order for a sec

NuovoTech · 12-31-2006, 02:25 PM

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It's my opinion that BMW is intentionally vague about this to sell more winter packages...

Not so in the USA, it's clearly listed under the "Comforts & convenience" section of the 2007 Coupe brochure.

Midgarr30 · 12-31-2006, 02:37 PM

what about the sedan?

NuovoTech · 12-31-2006, 02:45 PM

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what about the sedan?

Folding seats has never been a standard option on sedans, but they're available with the "Cold weather package" option.

STE92VE · 12-31-2006, 03:19 PM

This is one of the benefits of getting the E92 over the E90 if you can live with a coupe. Split rear seats, xenon adaptive headlights, sport suspension are all standard on the E92 but are additional cost options on the E90. This is true only for the 328i. On the 335i E90, the xenons are standard equipment.

bavarian19 · 12-31-2006, 03:35 PM

E92 coupes in the US come standard with fold down seats. So you end up paying the extra $250 for the headlight cleaners if you get the CWP (a waste IMO), but the washers only cost $25 if ordered with the CWP on the E90.

I think they are just a waste of money and windshiled washer fluid. Even in the winter when the front of my car can be completely covered in salt and dirt (when its snowing), my xenons had no problems providing more than enough light for me to see...

trekster · 01-02-2007, 06:14 PM

You can just ask for the heated seats by itself?

STE92VE · 01-02-2007, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by trekster

You can just ask for the heated seats by itself?

Yes..E92 option #494

antidentite · 01-02-2007, 07:14 PM

I also went for just the heated seats instead of the CWP. In researching this here and with the dealer, they did communicate that the folding rear seats are standard in the coupe.

elalona · 01-02-2007, 10:45 PM

I have it.. and my BM has hot weather package

Snowkone · 01-02-2007, 11:22 PM

Yes, the e92 coupes have it standard.

Being in Texas, I see no need for heated seats. My friends think otherwise, but what's 1 month out of the year good for?

edgarj · 01-03-2007, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeroday

It's my opinion that BMW is intentionally vague about this to sell more winter packages. I didn't get the winter package, just heated seats, and I have the split fold down seats in my 335i e92. really, the winter package is a ripoff imo. the headlight washers are useless and the ski sack is pretty darn close to useless.

I agree... I almost fell for it before specifically asking my CA about it. It wouldn't have been the end of the world, as the other stuff in the CW package is marginally usefull in my cliamte (though the headlight deicers would be pure novelty unless I start skiing more), but it wasn't clear IMHO from any of the lit (other than the manual d/l from here).

pseto · 01-03-2007, 10:32 AM

just heated seats for me too. CWP is a waste of money for me. now if it included a heated steering wheel, I probably woulda got CWP.

EDK99 · 01-03-2007, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by BimmerEnvy

This is one of the benefits of getting the E92 over the E90 if you can live with a coupe. Split rear seats, xenon adaptive headlights, sport suspension are all standard on the E92 but are additional cost options on the E90. This is true only for the 328i. On the 335i E90, the xenons are standard equipment.

Why is it a benefit? The coupe cost more because of those options are included. Adding the options to the e90 would bring the cost closer to the e92 price. Besides the sports suspension being standard which alone is not an individual option there is really no benefit of one over the other. Most people get the sports package anyways.

-Ed

mkoesel · 01-03-2007, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by NuovoTech

Folding seats has never been a standard option on sedans, but they're available with the "Cold weather package" option.

They are also available ad-hoc on the sedan as well. However, if you want heated seats too, then you are up to almost the price of the ZCP. So ZCP basically gets you the headlight washers for free (Some would debate whether this is a good thing or not.).

zhdrummer · 02-17-2008, 05:26 PM

Options allow people to customize the car for their personal needs. I find the winter package to be a great value to me. The price of the package was less than a good ski rack system. The ski sleeve allows me to throw 2 or 3 pair of skis into the car with no worries of dirt, theft or freezing bindings. Living where it always rains, the headlamp washers are actually very useful. The next time you follow a semi-truck for 50 miles during a snow or rain storm, pull straight up to a wall or a plate of glass and look at your headlight intensity and reflections. Now pressure wash them and see the difference for yourself. As for heated seats, everyone who has them, loves them.

TofuTurkey · 02-17-2008, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by baltik

I just thought the winter package was the nozzles + ski sack + heated seats

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Originally Posted by Zeroday

the headlight washers are useless and the ski sack is pretty darn close to useless.

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Originally Posted by bavarian19

you end up paying the extra $250 for the headlight cleaners if you get the CWP (a waste IMO)

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Originally Posted by mkoesel

So ZCP basically gets you the headlight washers for free

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Originally Posted by zhdrummer

Living where it always rains, the headlamp washers are actually very useful.

I have the coupe without cold package, and I have the headlight washers. I didn't expect to get them, but they're there because (1) I've seen them in action and (2) it's stated in the configuration printed and pasted on the window upon delivery. I don't know if it's there because of premium package though...

Update: I stared at the configuration-in-the-window paper and decided that, since there is an "included" word next to "retractable headlight washers", they came standard...

akack79 · 02-17-2008, 06:05 PM

^^^ Xi's come standard with headlight washers.

To the OP's question, only coupes come standard with rear folding seats.

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noro Colonel 90 Rep 2,707 Posts Drives: '91 M3, '04 E46 ZHP, '72 2002 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Boston iTrader: (0)	The US spec e92 335i has split rear folding seats as standard. I don't know about non-US but I assume it's the same. __________________ zhpregistry.net - ZHP stats and free classifieds.
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Zeroday Colonel 46 Rep 2,350 Posts Drives: Plymouth Volare Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: your nerves iTrader: (0)	It's my opinion that BMW is intentionally vague about this to sell more winter packages. I didn't get the winter package, just heated seats, and I have the split fold down seats in my 335i e92. really, the winter package is a ripoff imo. the headlight washers are useless and the ski sack is pretty darn close to useless.
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Utekai Enlisted Member 7 Rep 30 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: chicago iTrader: (0)	All 335 coupes come with fold-down rear seats Yeah, I just get the heated seats, the rest is a waste. The coupe comes with fold-down rear seats regardless of options. It's a coupe thing ...
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STE92VE STEVIL Empire 218 Rep 6,297 Posts Drives: Fast Join Date: May 2006 Location: Long Island, NY iTrader: (0)	This is one of the benefits of getting the E92 over the E90 if you can live with a coupe. Split rear seats, xenon adaptive headlights, sport suspension are all standard on the E92 but are additional cost options on the E90. This is true only for the 328i. On the 335i E90, the xenons are standard equipment.
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bavarian19 General 517 Rep 18,858 Posts Drives: Car Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: VA iTrader: (23)	E92 coupes in the US come standard with fold down seats. So you end up paying the extra $250 for the headlight cleaners if you get the CWP (a waste IMO), but the washers only cost $25 if ordered with the CWP on the E90. I think they are just a waste of money and windshiled washer fluid. Even in the winter when the front of my car can be completely covered in salt and dirt (when its snowing), my xenons had no problems providing more than enough light for me to see...
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antidentite Second Lieutenant 18 Rep 269 Posts Drives: See signature Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Belleuve, WA iTrader: (0)	I also went for just the heated seats instead of the CWP. In researching this here and with the dealer, they did communicate that the folding rear seats are standard in the coupe. __________________ Retired: '00 e46 (5mt) Retired: '07 e92 (6mt) Current: '08 S2000 (6mt) Current: '17 Porsche Macan GTS Current: '04 V8 4Runner
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Snowkone Private First Class 1 Rep 171 Posts Drives: 2007 335i Coupe (Sold) Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Texas iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 335i Coupe [0.00]	Yes, the e92 coupes have it standard. Being in Texas, I see no need for heated seats. My friends think otherwise, but what's 1 month out of the year good for? __________________ 2007 SL55 AMG 2007 E92 335i (Sold)
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zhdrummer Lurker of the ***** 1 Rep 5 Posts Drives: 2007 328XI Black on Black Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: The Great Northwest - Oregon iTrader: (0)	I guess that's why they are called options. Options allow people to customize the car for their personal needs. I find the winter package to be a great value to me. The price of the package was less than a good ski rack system. The ski sleeve allows me to throw 2 or 3 pair of skis into the car with no worries of dirt, theft or freezing bindings. Living where it always rains, the headlamp washers are actually very useful. The next time you follow a semi-truck for 50 miles during a snow or rain storm, pull straight up to a wall or a plate of glass and look at your headlight intensity and reflections. Now pressure wash them and see the difference for yourself. As for heated seats, everyone who has them, loves them.
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akack79 Brigadier General 142 Rep 3,161 Posts Drives: '18 F80 M3 ZCP Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: T E X A S iTrader: (18)	^^^ Xi's come standard with headlight washers. To the OP's question, only coupes come standard with rear folding seats. __________________ 2018 F80 M3 6MT ZCP
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