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      06-14-2010, 07:03 PM   #1
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First dealing with BMW service

Speedometer is 4 to 6 miles per hour slow at expressway speeds. Confirmed with speed check devices.

Response: No codes stored. Speedometer can have a variance of 5-7MPH


Memory settings don't hold on one of the two key fobs. Confirmed as tech could not make it work either.

Response: No faults stored


Compass- direction of true north reads northeast.

Response: Compass will not read correctly. Parts ordered.


What are the feelings out there, KIA gives better service than this. As it is the dealer is a couple hundred mile round trip and going to another dealer would be in excess of 400 miles.
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      06-14-2010, 07:25 PM   #2
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Me: When I go to unlock my car with Comfort Access, the door doesn't unlock. Sometimes it makes a clicking sound like it's jammed and remains locked.

SA: (Look at customer like he has 3 heads) It does what????

Me: Would you like to see for yourself?

SA: (after trying it) Wow, it does do that just like you said.


Invoice: Cust states car locks instead of unlocking. SA able to duplicate. Comfort access performing as designed.
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      06-14-2010, 07:25 PM   #3
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It Is A Well Known Fact That Bmw Speedos Always Read About 4 Mph Above The Correct Speed. Did You Read The Owners Manual In Reference To The Compass?? It Has To Be Calibrated. A Very Simple Procedure. It Is Explained Quite Clearly In The Manual
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First of all, welcome to the board!

The speedometer is designed to read slower than actual speed. From what I gather, there are huge penalties in Germany for overstating the actual speed, so BMW designs with a slower reading.

As for the compass, did you try calibrating it? There are instructions in the manual on how to do that for your particular area. Unless it's really broken, I'm not sure why they wouldn't try that first.

I've had exemplary service from my dealer, so I can't say I've had any complaints.

EDIT: Looks like DTRJ beat me to the response!
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      06-14-2010, 07:37 PM   #5
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Yes I read the manual. And re-read for each item I felt was a problem.

I tried the calibration twice with same result. They set magnetic field and performed manual calibration with the same result. Do you really think they would order parts without performing checks first?
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The speedometer is designed to read slower than actual speed.
No. It actually reads faster than you're going.

If it read slower than actual, that would not be good.
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No. It actually reads faster than you're going.

If it read slower than actual, that would not be good.
I was never aware of it until I got a portable GPS, and then I could see my actual speed is 3 mph less than what the car indicates. Interestingly, this isn't the case with my Nissan, which is consistent with the GPS.

Maybe BMW has various rims and tires available and the number of revs per mile is not identical across all the possible tires fitted in a respective position.
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I was never aware of it until I got a portable GPS, and then I could see my actual speed is 3 mph less than what the car indicates. Interestingly, this isn't the case with my Nissan, which is consistent with the GPS.

Maybe BMW has various rims and tires available and the number of revs per mile is not identical across all the possible tires fitted in a respective position.
I have a variance as well, usually about 2 mph at 65, but it grows exponentially the faster you go...
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I have a variance as well, usually about 2 mph at 65, but it grows exponentially the faster you go...
That makes sense, I am usually at a 75-78 mph indicated. I probably never really checked it at say 90 but most likely it's off by more than 3 mph....
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I currently own a BMW, Nissan and Honda - all have speedos that register slightly higher than the actual speed. I think it's a conspiracy to rack up miles faster and get you to the end of your warranty period.
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I was never aware of it until I got a portable GPS, and then I could see my actual speed is 3 mph less than what the car indicates. Interestingly, this isn't the case with my Nissan, which is consistent with the GPS.

Maybe BMW has various rims and tires available and the number of revs per mile is not identical across all the possible tires fitted in a respective position.
This has been hashed to death in every BMW forum on the net for at least the last ten years. ALL modern BMW speedos read fast. BMW designed it that way, it's not adjustable, and has nothing to do with tires and rims. For their own reasons (lawyers come to mind) BMW has decided in their infinite wisdom that your speedo is going to read 80 when you are really going 75 to 76 mph. They all do it, there is nothing you or the dealer can do about it. Live with it.
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I currently own a BMW, Nissan and Honda - all have speedos that register slightly higher than the actual speed. I think it's a conspiracy to rack up miles faster and get you to the end of your warranty period.
Nah. The odometer in a BMW is accurate. BMW has just tinkered with the speedo.
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This has been hashed to death in every BMW forum on the net for at least the last ten years. ALL modern BMW speedos read fast. BMW designed it that way, it's not adjustable, and has nothing to do with tires and rims. For their own reasons (lawyers come to mind) BMW has decided in their infinite wisdom that your speedo is going to read 80 when you are really going 75 to 76 mph. They all do it, there is nothing you or the dealer can do about it. Live with it.
As I recall, the formula is 10% plus 2.4 mph (that's the maximum variance).
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Maybe BMW has various rims and tires available and the number of revs per mile is not identical across all the possible tires fitted in a respective position.
Thought of that, but a quick check confirms the all the diameters come out the same so the speedo will stay the same.

I also rarely see a BMW's poking along at 5 miles below posted limits.
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This has been hashed to death in every BMW forum on the net for at least the last ten years. ALL modern BMW speedos read fast. BMW designed it that way, it's not adjustable, and has nothing to do with tires and rims. For their own reasons (lawyers come to mind) BMW has decided in their infinite wisdom that your speedo is going to read 80 when you are really going 75 to 76 mph. They all do it, there is nothing you or the dealer can do about it. Live with it.
Okay I didn't do the search on poor BMW speedo. Since I'm capable of second grade math I will live with just adding 5 to get the correct speed. Still at 50k I expected more/better.
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Really, I see BMWs poking around at 5mph below the limit, in the left lane, all the time. Often being driven by people talking on hand-hled cell phones.

Nearest BMW dealer (BMW Gallery, Calgary) is less than 1/2 mile away. Experience has been so good that I now drive 30-40 minutes to another dealer.
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Compass- direction of true north reads northeast.

Response: Compass will not read correctly. Parts ordered.

True North isn't the same as Magnetic North. The compass (obviously) points towards the magnetic north pole, which is different from the true north pole which is the top of the earths rotational axis.

Every compass ever made points to the magnetic north.
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I currently own a BMW, Nissan and Honda - all have speedos that register slightly higher than the actual speed. I think it's a conspiracy to rack up miles faster and get you to the end of your warranty period.
My Nissan is dead-on with the GPS. The car is a 1998, so maybe the conspiracy started a few years later. My BlackBerry is also set for Casablanca time plus 6 minutes from the factory, yet another carrier trick where they bill me for 306 extra minutes every month.
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The offset is programmed into the speedometer (NOT odometer) intentionally. It's due to very strict regulations in Europe which state a car can never, under any circumstances, display a speed slower than actual. BMW and other European cars program the offset into the speedometer to ensure they're in compliance with this rule.
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No. It actually reads faster than you're going.

If it read slower than actual, that would not be good.
You're absolutely right! It was a long day at work, and I think my brain decided to go home first.
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To the OP: Don't worry, they will change everything that you complain about and even suggest other repairs once your warranty runs out.
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To the OP: Don't worry, they will change everything that you complain about and even suggest other repairs once your warranty runs out.
LOL I've always thought the same time.

Under warranty = software and if that doesn't work, it's working as designed
Out of Warranty = anything you want changed/fixed and then some
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