Dieter(my sales guy) says Active Steering is unnecessary

TexasAggie14 · 12-04-2006, 04:34 PM

Dieter,my sales guy,and long time friend,says that "All BMWs come with active steering,and that the Active Steeing option,is just an enhanced version,of what BMWs already have,and its a waist of money".

There you have it.from a sales guy.

xavier

kuthair · 12-04-2006, 04:35 PM

hahaha... your kidding, right?

ALPINE6SPD · 12-04-2006, 04:37 PM

they do not have active steering standard. Dieter needs to go back to Germany for some lessons on the cars he sells.

TexasAggie14 · 12-04-2006, 04:42 PM

Dieter,has actually been in this business for sometime,and he occasionally goes to BMW headquaters in Munich. Oh, and I forgot to add that he said that "Active Steering is for really large cars,like the 7 series,or bentleys."

Fraggy · 12-04-2006, 04:48 PM

Of course the steering is active on all cars... Ive never heard of stationary steering, if that were the case the cars would only got straight

LOL

NewMoses · 12-04-2006, 04:51 PM

Drive one with, then one without. It will quickly become clear that Dieter has no clue at all.

ALPINE6SPD · 12-04-2006, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by xclozano

Dieter,has actually been in this business for sometime,and he occasionally goes to BMW headquaters in Munich. Oh, and I forgot to add that he said that "Active Steering is for really large cars,like the 7 series,or bentleys."

For big cars?????? You cant even get it on a 7. This guy is clueless.

shimshimhada · 12-04-2006, 05:15 PM

Maybe he means power steering.

ALPINE6SPD · 12-04-2006, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by shimshimhada

Maybe he means power steering.

who knows but for an someone who is selling these for so long this is a joke. He gives salespeople like me a bad name and image.

Brunotheboxer · 12-04-2006, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xclozano

Dieter,my sales guy,and long time friend,says that "All BMWs come with active steering,and that the Active Steeing option,is just an enhanced version,of what BMWs already have,and its a waist of money".

There you have it.from a sales guy.

xavier

citkane · 12-04-2006, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xclozano

Dieter,my sales guy,and long time friend,says that "All BMWs come with active steering,and that the Active Steeing option,is just an enhanced version,of what BMWs already have,and its a waist of money".

Dieter is possibly mixing things up. I think what he might be referring to is the "Servotronic" steering, which is a more "loose" version of the standard power steering found in all BMW´s. The servotronic simply makes turning the steering wheel easier, which is indeed a useful feature (for some) on larger models like the 5 or 7 series with wider rims. Servotronic is speed sensitive, meaning the steering will be easy at low speed and gradually return to "normal" at higher speeds.
Active steering is a completely different beast. The purpose is not to make steering any lighter/looser, but to reduce the turning angle of the wheel at lower speeds. Basically much like in modern Indy/F1 racing cars where a 45 deg turn of the wheel will take the car through a 90 deg corner.

Russellnyc · 12-04-2006, 05:29 PM

Sounds like he means "all BMWs have steering that is active" and that enhancing it is unnecessary. In my experience, German BMW salespeople often say stuff like that. As in, "the 3er is more dynamic than the 5er, in the engineering and technics" or "perfect balance has been attained" and stuff like that.

TexasAggie14 · 12-04-2006, 05:30 PM

Yes,He is from Germany,accent,blonde hair,and all.

jasper · 12-04-2006, 05:31 PM

Deiter?!? "Touch my monkey! Love him! Touch him!"

Mr. Smith · 12-04-2006, 05:48 PM

i dont like active steering, i am glad i did not get it

DrGP · 12-04-2006, 06:42 PM

During my test drive a month ago, my salesman also indicated that he felt that the active steering was an unnecessary option and discouraged me from ordering it. Told me that some who had it found that they tend to "over-steer" with it and had some control issues. I guess it could take some getting used to, but I personally think that the standard steering is just fine

Norsk · 12-04-2006, 08:43 PM

Tried it; it's innovative and can be cool.

But IMHO, totally useless on a 3 series!

Carnage · 12-04-2006, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jasper

Deiter?!? "Touch my monkey! Love him! Touch him!"

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doublearon21 · 12-06-2006, 02:58 PM

I love active steering the car that I test drove had it, and so does the one that I ordered. It is IMO another inhancement to the already wonderful feel of the 3 series.

BMW320i · 12-06-2006, 03:39 PM

this has been discussed many times before and i will post my opinion again:

- it's not a necessery option

- but it's cool to have it, and very useful in parking

mkeds · 12-06-2006, 07:03 PM

I think he means POWER STEERING>>>>>>>

Prob a new SA

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12-04-2006, 04:34 PM	#1
TexasAggie14 Enlisted Member 11 Rep 44 Posts Drives: n/a Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: College Station, Texas iTrader: (0)	Dieter(my sales guy) says Active Steering is unnecessary Dieter,my sales guy,and long time friend,says that "All BMWs come with active steering,and that the Active Steeing option,is just an enhanced version,of what BMWs already have,and its a waist of money". There you have it.from a sales guy. xavier
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12-04-2006, 04:35 PM	#2
kuthair Captain 11 Rep 613 Posts Drives: 07 335i Sedan 6MT Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Connecticut iTrader: (0)	hahaha... your kidding, right?
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12-04-2006, 04:37 PM	#3
ALPINE6SPD Lieutenant General 156 Rep 10,411 Posts Drives: 2010 BMW 328i Sport Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Highland Lakes NJ iTrader: (2)	they do not have active steering standard. Dieter needs to go back to Germany for some lessons on the cars he sells. __________________ 2010 AW e90 328i: 6 speed, Black Leather, Dark Wood trim, ZPP, ZCW, ZVP,ZSP, Nav, Xenon BMW Performance CF Rear spolier and Gloss black grills 2008 Candy White MKV GTI 2.0T 6 Speed Manul Gone 2008 AW X3 3.0si: 6 speed Returned 2006 AW e90 330i: 6 speed Dinan Stage 1 Returned
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12-04-2006, 04:42 PM	#4
TexasAggie14 Enlisted Member 11 Rep 44 Posts Drives: n/a Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: College Station, Texas iTrader: (0)	Dieter,has actually been in this business for sometime,and he occasionally goes to BMW headquaters in Munich. Oh, and I forgot to add that he said that "Active Steering is for really large cars,like the 7 series,or bentleys."
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12-04-2006, 04:48 PM	#5
Fraggy Brigadier General 193 Rep 3,469 Posts Drives: 2016 M3 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: San Diego iTrader: (11)	Of course the steering is active on all cars... Ive never heard of stationary steering, if that were the case the cars would only got straight LOL __________________ 2016 Alpine White M3 (gone) 2019 Alfa Romeo Guilia (Totaled) 2020 Car-less 😁 (no more) 2020 M340
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12-04-2006, 04:51 PM	#6
NewMoses Enlisted Member 2 Rep 37 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: SF Bay Area iTrader: (0)	Drive one with, then one without. It will quickly become clear that Dieter has no clue at all.
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12-04-2006, 05:15 PM	#8
shimshimhada Brigadier General 442 Rep 4,838 Posts Drives: Portal Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Portal iTrader: (2)	Maybe he means power steering.
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12-04-2006, 05:29 PM	#12
Russellnyc Razor sharp handling 23 Rep 619 Posts Drives: 2007 e92 335i 6MT Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: NYC iTrader: (0)	Sounds like he means "all BMWs have steering that is active" and that enhancing it is unnecessary. In my experience, German BMW salespeople often say stuff like that. As in, "the 3er is more dynamic than the 5er, in the engineering and technics" or "perfect balance has been attained" and stuff like that. __________________ 1997 E36 328is Arctic Silver: 1997-2003 100k Mi. SOLD 2000 Audi TT Quattro Coupe Lake Silver: 2003-present 35k Mi. SOLD 2006 Lotus Elise Polar Blue/Red 2007 E92 335i Spacegrau/Coral/Al \| ZSP/ZPP/ZCW/CA/PDC/NAV Broken in
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12-04-2006, 05:30 PM	#13
TexasAggie14 Enlisted Member 11 Rep 44 Posts Drives: n/a Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: College Station, Texas iTrader: (0)	Yes,He is from Germany,accent,blonde hair,and all.
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12-04-2006, 05:31 PM	#14
jasper Private First Class 21 Rep 106 Posts Drives: 2002 325i Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: San Ramon, CA iTrader: (0)	Deiter?!? "Touch my monkey! Love him! Touch him!"
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Mr. Smith Second Lieutenant 2 Rep 229 Posts Drives: 2007 328i Sedan (Ordered) Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Charlotte, NC iTrader: (0)	i dont like active steering, i am glad i did not get it __________________ Ordered: 2007 328i Sedan/ Montego Blue/ Beige interior with wood trim/ STEPTRONIC/ Sport package/ Premium Package/ Cold Weather Package/ Comfort Access Comes in January
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12-04-2006, 06:42 PM	#16
DrGP Lieutenant Colonel 137 Rep 1,914 Posts Drives: Sapphire 335i coupe Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: SE, PA iTrader: (0)	During my test drive a month ago, my salesman also indicated that he felt that the active steering was an unnecessary option and discouraged me from ordering it. Told me that some who had it found that they tend to "over-steer" with it and had some control issues. I guess it could take some getting used to, but I personally think that the standard steering is just fine
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12-04-2006, 08:43 PM	#17
Norsk Major 42 Rep 1,096 Posts Drives: F10 535i Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Canada iTrader: (0)	Tried it; it's innovative and can be cool. But IMHO, totally useless on a 3 series!
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doublearon21 Enlisted Member 2 Rep 45 Posts Drives: Soon to order space gray 335, Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Grand Rapids, MI iTrader: (0)	I love active steering the car that I test drove had it, and so does the one that I ordered. It is IMO another inhancement to the already wonderful feel of the 3 series. __________________ The Land of the Free...Because of the Brave.
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12-06-2006, 07:03 PM	#21
mkeds Second Lieutenant 23 Rep 242 Posts Drives: none Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: nowhere iTrader: (0)	I think he means POWER STEERING>>>>>>> Prob a new SA
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