[que2k]

I was gassing up my car yesterday and noticed a sticker on the Chevron pump that said it contained no ethanol......this is the first time I have seen this.

However the 87,89,91 pump said may contain up to 10% ethanol....

Anyone else notice this??

I only mention this because of all the HPFP theories about bad gas.....

BTW I only fill up with Chevron 94, at 12,288 KM still on the the original HPFP (touch wood)

[chazzz]

Maybe it's because you're in Canada?

Here in U.S.A., I've noticed that every gas pump contain 10% ethanol.

[Brey335i]

My local Chevron has the 10% ethanol and no more than 93 octane

[JoeyBananaz18]

i believe that by US regulation, all gas in the states must contain 10% ethenol. i dont know the exact reason why though.

[BTM]

May have something to do with farming subsidies:confused

[ollie]

I'm in Vancouver as well and only use Chevron 94...and have had all the issues related to the fueling problems, 7,500 kms and it is all good now.

[jayely1]

A local gas station "BP" owner I know says he doesn't buy the gas with ethanol..

[bsv2316]

I only know of one station in my city that has gas w/ no ethanol.

It's Conoco. They have a bunch of signs advertising the fact that their gas has no ethanol in it.

There used to be another Conoco place on the south end of town that had no ethanol as well, but it got changed to a Pilot Travel center.

[vasillalov]

Originally Posted by jayely1

A local gas station "BP" owner I know says he doesn't buy the gas with ethanol..

Where?



On the side note: I've had nothing but bad experience with BP fuels throughout the years. Problems ranging from water in the fuel, to clogged injectors on my previous car.

I normally get Shell fuel. On only one occasion I was forced to put BP fuel in my 335i and 30 miles later the fuel pump died. It may be a coincidence, but I will NEVER put BP in my cars again. Hell, I'd rather push my car to a different gas station.

[lucas.kent]

The ethanol requirement is pretty much a corn state subsidy under the guise of the good intention to develop alternative biofuels. Addmitedly, we are so good at producing corn we had to find some good use of it - otherwise corn prices would plummet and we'd have to fund farm disaster assistance payments.

The use of ethanol in transportation fuels is mandated by the Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007. The Renewable Fuels Standard (RFS) phases in the use of biofuels ('standard' and 'advanced') for several years, until 2022 when 36 billion gallons must be used.

[jopa489]

I'm pretty sure Shell 93 (V-Power) is ethanol-free outside the US too.

[chromisdesigns]

Originally Posted by jayely1

A local gas station "BP" owner I know says he doesn't buy the gas with ethanol..

Yeah, he might not, in fact, be "buying" mixed gas -- but he might be making it! BP stations are notorious for "splash blending" their own with ethanol purchased on the local market for under NY spot cost, thus saving the station owner money over pre-blended. However, what you get out of the tank when they do this can be rather iffy...

They've been caught doing this by weights and measures departments in more than one state.

I'd avoid BP like the plague.

[cotmfk]

Originally Posted by vasillalov

Where?



On the side note: I've had nothing but bad experience with BP fuels throughout the years. Problems ranging from water in the fuel, to clogged injectors on my previous car.

I normally get Shell fuel. On only one occasion I was forced to put BP fuel in my 335i and 30 miles later the fuel pump died. It may be a coincidence, but I will NEVER put BP in my cars again. Hell, I'd rather push my car to a different gas station.

While I know I won't change your opinion, BP has had the highest average quality of gasoline for the past 10 years. I use almost exclusively BP and have 40k+ miles (12kish modded) on my fuel pump.

[RoundelM3]

Used to be able to get Sunoco 260 in the East-Coast area, but nothing down this way. I use V-Power exclusively, and it too has the 10% ethanol. I've also heard that during the summer months (6 months out of the year here in TX), they "oxygenate" the gasoline and it's got a different mix of additives specifically for warm weather. MPG seems to suffer a bit.

That said...most BMWs aren't equipped to burn anything other than 10% ethanol, and as one of the posters mentioned, I wonder if this could aggravate the HPFP issue?

[TwinTurboXI]

Originally Posted by cotmfk

While I know I won't change your opinion, BP has had the highest average quality of gasoline for the past 10 years. I use almost exclusively BP and have 40k+ miles (12kish modded) on my fuel pump.

Same here, I always use BP.

[Morpheus]

Originally Posted by vasillalov

Where?



On the side note: I've had nothing but bad experience with BP fuels throughout the years. Problems ranging from water in the fuel, to clogged injectors on my previous car.

I normally get Shell fuel. On only one occasion I was forced to put BP fuel in my 335i and 30 miles later the fuel pump died. It may be a coincidence, but I will NEVER put BP in my cars again. Hell, I'd rather push my car to a different gas station.

Not sure about water in the fuel, but BP definitely has issues with fuel in the water!

[Morpheus]

Originally Posted by roundel335

Used to be able to get Sunoco 260 in the East-Coast area, but nothing down this way. I use V-Power exclusively, and it too has the 10% ethanol. I've also heard that during the summer months (6 months out of the year here in TX), they "oxygenate" the gasoline and it's got a different mix of additives specifically for warm weather. MPG seems to suffer a bit.

That said...most BMWs aren't equipped to burn anything other than 10% ethanol, and as one of the posters mentioned, I wonder if this could aggravate the HPFP issue?

V-power here in Louisiana has 10% ethanol as well. I used it exclusively and fuel pump died with around 10K on the clock. Now using Chevron 93. Not sure if it has ethanol-there are no stickers to that effect so I'm thinking it's ethanol free.

[TwinPowerF30]

yes shell v power 91 octane is ethanol free

[742]

Originally Posted by JoeyBananaz18

i believe that by US regulation, all gas in the states must contain 10% ethenol. i dont know the exact reason why though.

There is no national mandate that requires all fuel to be ethanol poisoned, though there are are some states with such a mandate and the feds certainly do encourage it. It is possible to find ethanol free gasoline in the United States, and where I live there are two such stations.

This is determined by the station owner when he orders the fuel, not by the brand.

[lucas.kent]

Check it: http://pure-gas.org/

[742]

Originally Posted by lkw15

Check it: http://pure-gas.org/

Thanks!

[JoeyBananaz18]

Originally Posted by 742

There is no national mandate that requires all fuel to be ethanol poisoned, though there are are some states with such a mandate and the feds certainly do encourage it. It is possible to find ethanol free gasoline in the United States, and where I live there are two such stations.

This is determined by the station owner when he orders the fuel, not by the brand.

ohh i knew it was mandated by one of the 2. the station picks it because it probably cheaper.