front end alignment or P O S Bridgestone run flats

V2 plus 10 · 04-08-2010, 08:41 PM

I have a 2009 328 coupe with sport package. It has only 1200 ( twelve hundred) miles on it. I was shocked to notice the outside edges of the front tires starting to cup. The insides are fine and both front tires have the same amount of cupping. You cant see it but can feel it when running your hand across. I took it back to the Dealer and the S A said his 3 Series became real noticeable at 5 K miles and it is the Bridgestone tires not the alignment. I told him just do an alignment and I would pay for it if BMW refused to. He assured me that i would be wasting my money and that it was the tires. To me it seems like a toe in condition would be causing this. The S A said most of the new 3 series are coming with PS 2s and don't have that problem. If what he says is true you got to be kidding. Almost 60 K for some of the loaded 335s out there and P O S tires like that. I have read that the tires dont last, ride like rocks etc. My car has never been flogged so I am wondering if anyone else has seen this problem so early on .... Thanks

Kylekuu · 04-08-2010, 08:46 PM

my originals never had this issue, was the re050a's not sure if you have the turanza's or not. I believe there was a class action suit against them, do a search if you want more info on that

Delnari · 04-08-2010, 08:49 PM

Had the same issue when I bought my pre-owned 335i with 34,000 miles on the tires from a used sales lot (non-BMW). The fronts were cupped and one even had a bubble in the side of one. This was found at the BMW dealership when I took it there for an inspection. Went back and told the dealership put new tires on the front or the deal is off! They complied and put a fresh set of Bridgestones on and car rode much better.

Will be switching to the Michelins ASAP as everyone has great comments about their RFTs. The dealership is doing right even after the fact by offering me 40% off Tire Rack price on my new set of tires when these wear out or I decide to change them out. Who sez all used car dealers are crooks...

JonLerd · 04-08-2010, 08:50 PM

i think the class action law suit was for the non sport RTF tires. i could be wrong but i remember reading about that too. My car also shows cupping and i have the bridgestones also!

V2 plus 10 · 04-08-2010, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Kylekuu

my originals never had this issue, was the re050a's not sure if you have the turanza's or not. I believe there was a class action suit against them, do a search if you want more info on that

Thanks but mine has RE 050A tires. I heard the Turanza,s were pretty bad.

nukezero · 04-08-2010, 09:03 PM

bridgestone sucks . michelins ps2 ftw.

asus389 · 04-09-2010, 01:30 AM

I have the same problem too. The RE050a II RFT on the sports package isn't covered under the TSB. I suspect its a combination of the tires and how the car's suspension is set up that causes this. My tires have about 7k on them. Meh...

Bavaria330 · 04-09-2010, 06:52 AM

Known problem. I took mine after 10 k miles and had them remounted on the oposite side. This helps. Cost $60.

aesfah · 04-09-2010, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Delnari

Had the same issue when I bought my pre-owned 335i with 34,000 miles on the tires from a used sales lot (non-BMW). The fronts were cupped and one even had a bubble in the side of one. This was found at the BMW dealership when I took it there for an inspection. Went back and told the dealership put new tires on the front or the deal is off! They complied and put a fresh set of Bridgestones on and car rode much better.

Will be switching to the Michelins ASAP as everyone has great comments about their RFTs. The dealership is doing right even after the fact by offering me 40% off Tire Rack price on my new set of tires when these wear out or I decide to change them out. Who sez all used car dealers are crooks...

Gotta ask - which dealer did u go to?

icandie · 04-09-2010, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bavaria330

Known problem. I took mine after 10 k miles and had them remounted on the oposite side. This helps. Cost $60.

+1

mine were cupping too. I convinced BMW to do an alignment for me (I had bought CPO and had about 3000 kms on it when I went back to complain) to help with the issue (it turned out it was a bit misaligned). I also asked them to move the right front tire to the left side etc.

Since the tires arent directional this was possible. It helped fix the cupping, but i'm sure its happening still and i'll have to swap them again.

Delnari · 04-09-2010, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by aesfah

Gotta ask - which dealer did u go to?

EEE of Tysons

They do all their service work out of the Springfield location though. The final detailing of the car was great!

smack · 04-10-2010, 12:08 AM

I havent had that problem with mine and it has been around the Nurbuergring 5 times.

Ascension · 04-10-2010, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by V2 plus 10

I have a 2009 328 coupe with sport package. It has only 1200 ( twelve hundred) miles on it. I was shocked to notice the outside edges of the front tires starting to cup. The insides are fine and both front tires have the same amount of cupping. You cant see it but can feel it when running your hand across. I took it back to the Dealer and the S A said his 3 Series became real noticeable at 5 K miles and it is the Bridgestone tires not the alignment. I told him just do an alignment and I would pay for it if BMW refused to. He assured me that i would be wasting my money and that it was the tires. To me it seems like a toe in condition would be causing this. The S A said most of the new 3 series are coming with PS 2s and don't have that problem. If what he says is true you got to be kidding. Almost 60 K for some of the loaded 335s out there and P O S tires like that. I have read that the tires dont last, ride like rocks etc. My car has never been flogged so I am wondering if anyone else has seen this problem so early on .... Thanks

The Bridgestones are a POS. I blew my right rear tire @20k miles. Severe cupping and wearing. I switched to Michelins and couldn't be happier

hugus311 · 04-15-2010, 02:32 AM

same here, had one blow out 3000 miles after i purchased a cpo. took it to the dealership since i had the tire insurance. Dealer denied claim because of alignment was bit off and uneven tread wear. Asked for full refund of T.I. and went to Costco and got 4 new BF goodrich KDW.s and have never been happier. Night and day difference. Its been 18k miles and tread looks like i got them yesterday.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....=24YR8GFTAKDW2

04-08-2010, 08:41 PM	#1
V2 plus 10 New Member 1 Rep 10 Posts Drives: 2009 328 coupe Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: atlanta ga iTrader: (0)	front end alignment or P O S Bridgestone run flats I have a 2009 328 coupe with sport package. It has only 1200 ( twelve hundred) miles on it. I was shocked to notice the outside edges of the front tires starting to cup. The insides are fine and both front tires have the same amount of cupping. You cant see it but can feel it when running your hand across. I took it back to the Dealer and the S A said his 3 Series became real noticeable at 5 K miles and it is the Bridgestone tires not the alignment. I told him just do an alignment and I would pay for it if BMW refused to. He assured me that i would be wasting my money and that it was the tires. To me it seems like a toe in condition would be causing this. The S A said most of the new 3 series are coming with PS 2s and don't have that problem. If what he says is true you got to be kidding. Almost 60 K for some of the loaded 335s out there and P O S tires like that. I have read that the tires dont last, ride like rocks etc. My car has never been flogged so I am wondering if anyone else has seen this problem so early on .... Thanks
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Kylekuu Captain 30 Rep 679 Posts Drives: 08 328xi, 84 318i Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kenosha, WI iTrader: (0)	my originals never had this issue, was the re050a's not sure if you have the turanza's or not. I believe there was a class action suit against them, do a search if you want more info on that
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04-08-2010, 08:49 PM	#3
Delnari Major 256 Rep 1,040 Posts Drives: 2014 MG F22 Auto Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Alexandria, VA iTrader: (2)	Had the same issue when I bought my pre-owned 335i with 34,000 miles on the tires from a used sales lot (non-BMW). The fronts were cupped and one even had a bubble in the side of one. This was found at the BMW dealership when I took it there for an inspection. Went back and told the dealership put new tires on the front or the deal is off! They complied and put a fresh set of Bridgestones on and car rode much better. Will be switching to the Michelins ASAP as everyone has great comments about their RFTs. The dealership is doing right even after the fact by offering me 40% off Tire Rack price on my new set of tires when these wear out or I decide to change them out. Who sez all used car dealers are crooks...
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JonLerd Lieutenant 19 Rep 543 Posts Drives: Alpine White 335i coupe Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Orange County / Los Angeles iTrader: (3)	i think the class action law suit was for the non sport RTF tires. i could be wrong but i remember reading about that too. My car also shows cupping and i have the bridgestones also!
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04-08-2010, 09:03 PM	#6
nukezero Major 343 Rep 1,465 Posts Drives: BMW 3 series Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Irvine iTrader: (8)	bridgestone sucks . michelins ps2 ftw.
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04-09-2010, 01:30 AM	#7
asus389 Captain 68 Rep 639 Posts Drives: 11 E90 328i Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Michigan iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 BMW 328i [0.00]	I have the same problem too. The RE050a II RFT on the sports package isn't covered under the TSB. I suspect its a combination of the tires and how the car's suspension is set up that causes this. My tires have about 7k on them. Meh...
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04-09-2010, 06:52 AM	#8
Bavaria330 First Lieutenant 52 Rep 323 Posts Drives: 335i LCI AW Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: LB Cali. iTrader: (2)	Known problem. I took mine after 10 k miles and had them remounted on the oposite side. This helps. Cost $60.
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04-10-2010, 12:08 AM	#12
smack Lieutenant Colonel 34 Rep 1,569 Posts Drives: BMW's/Flex Polishers Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Spangdahlem Germany iTrader: (0)	I havent had that problem with mine and it has been around the Nurbuergring 5 times.
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04-15-2010, 02:32 AM	#14
hugus311 Titanium silver + Sport + Premium 32 Rep 662 Posts Drives: 2006 330i (E90) Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: west covina 626 iTrader: (6)	same here, had one blow out 3000 miles after i purchased a cpo. took it to the dealership since i had the tire insurance. Dealer denied claim because of alignment was bit off and uneven tread wear. Asked for full refund of T.I. and went to Costco and got 4 new BF goodrich KDW.s and have never been happier. Night and day difference. Its been 18k miles and tread looks like i got them yesterday. http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....=24YR8GFTAKDW2
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