If the tires weren't installed with TPMS, will there be any warning lights?

Z4shoe · 03-29-2010, 04:33 PM

Quick question: Say I purchased a used E90 on which the tires were replaced by the previous owner. I just noticed the valve stems don't look like the TPMS ones I have on my Z4. Instead, they look like traditional rubber valve stems.

This lead me to believe no TPMS was installed with the replacement tires but wouldn't I get a warning light when the car can't detect any TPMS signal at all?

TIA.

persian54 · 03-29-2010, 05:09 PM

You should get a TPM malfunction light

Z4shoe · 03-29-2010, 05:14 PM

Just did a little more research, since the car is a 07, it's possible that it has the FTM and not TPMS which means no sensor in the tires but rather, on the calipers.

Can someone else confirm this?

chrisE92 · 03-29-2010, 05:39 PM

I know for certain that the first few e90's do not throw errors if you dont have tpms, but I'm not sure where the cutoff point is

BMW F22 · 03-29-2010, 05:44 PM

If the car was produced after March 2007 it has TPMS. If it's before that it has FTM. I believe they started doing TPMS in March so if it's March production it should have TPMS.

blackbeast06 · 03-29-2010, 10:08 PM

I purchased my '06 325i that has after market rims and I am not sure if it has a TPM sensor on the rims. I put on winter rims and tires that do not have a TPMS and the tire pressure warning light came on. I initialized it real quick and the warning light went away. I have been driving all winter with the rims and have not had another warning. We will see what happends when I put the summer rims back on next week.

Gary@TireRack · 03-30-2010, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by blackbeast06

I purchased my '06 325i that has after market rims and I am not sure if it has a TPM sensor on the rims. I put on winter rims and tires that do not have a TPMS and the tire pressure warning light came on. I initialized it real quick and the warning light went away. I have been driving all winter with the rims and have not had another warning. We will see what happends when I put the summer rims back on next week.

2006 models do not have TPMS sensors, just the FTM system that does not use TPMS sensors. You're okay to go.

raceyBMW · 03-30-2010, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BMW E90

If the car was produced after March 2007 it has TPMS. If it's before that it has FTM. I believe they started doing TPMS in March so if it's March production it should have TPMS.

Maybe you meant 2006? My 09/06 build has TPMS, not FTM. It was basically 2006 model cars that had FTM IIRC.

BMW F22 · 03-30-2010, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by raceyBMW

Maybe you meant 2006? My 09/06 build has TPMS, not FTM. It was basically 2006 model cars that had FTM IIRC.

Maybe that's true for the coupe. But I know the sedan didn't come with TPMS until about March of 07. Any car produced after that period of time has TPMS (I think).

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Z4shoe New Member 1 Rep 12 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: CA iTrader: (0)	Just did a little more research, since the car is a 07, it's possible that it has the FTM and not TPMS which means no sensor in the tires but rather, on the calipers. Can someone else confirm this?
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