e92 M3 delayed to November 2007: reliability issues?

0700700 · 11-11-2006, 01:12 PM

Just read it in the latest Autocar magazine. They stated that the car has been delayed until november 2007 with first customer deliveries sometime in spring of 2008. They cited reliability issues as the main factor behind this move by BMW, but no particular information.

The m3 will be displayed as an M3 Concept model in New Your auto show

0700700 · 11-12-2006, 04:58 PM

bumpage if someone missed it

poldim · 11-12-2006, 05:01 PM

Reliability issues?

pseto · 11-12-2006, 05:07 PM

if this is true, its not surprising to me b/c of the brand new 8 cylinder engine.

bavarian19 · 11-12-2006, 05:14 PM

I guess BMW learned from the oil pump issues in the first year of production for the E46 M3...

Better to have your issues ironed out before releasing the product...

RiXst3r · 11-12-2006, 05:15 PM

or making a bump up in HP to widen the gap between the m3 and a tuned 335

0700700 · 11-12-2006, 07:47 PM

i think they are bumping the HP, but not because of the 335i... they fear the RS4, cause its such a brilliant overall package

RaptorKTM · 11-12-2006, 07:50 PM

i dont think this is going to be the case. i think bmw is goign to release this m3 faster then we think

FirstClass · 11-12-2006, 07:57 PM

Thats not really a delay, its been end of 2007 for some time now.

user1 · 11-12-2006, 08:02 PM

Bumping to Nov is no big deal. It was supposed to launch Sept so they are only adding 2 months. They probably found a glitch or two and want a little more testing - avoid the e46 first year problems that created a bad stigma for a couple years on the M3s. I doubt they are adding power at this stage in the development/testing. There is too much testing that would need to be started over to make a meaningful bump in HP to an engine. A two month push isnt enough time for changes. Its just enough time to work out kinks in the existing systems.

Buffalo_Bush · 11-12-2006, 08:08 PM

is new york auto show before or after the LA auto show. because i was really hoping bmw would have atleast a 'concept'm3 at la this year.

ase2dais · 11-13-2006, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bavarian19

I guess BMW learned from the oil pump issues in the first year of production for the E46 M3...
Better to have your issues ironed out before releasing the product...

First year e46/M3 major issue was failing Engine Rod Bearing, and it wasnt a recall but a Technical Serivce Bulletin to get it replaced w/c up the ante of the powerplant to 6yrs/100k warranty as a gesture of BMW's goodwill.

ase2dais · 11-13-2006, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by 0700700

Just read it in the latest Autocar magazine. They stated that the car has been delayed until november 2007 with first customer deliveries sometime in spring of 2008. They cited reliability issues as the main factor behind this move by BMW, but no particular information.

The m3 will be displayed as an M3 Concept model in New Your auto show

can you provide us a link, otherwise I can just consider this hearsay!

for the powerplant is already in production and in use on other cars V10 engine, except of course they have just reduced it to 8cyl (but it the same exact v10 engine, Jason posted an article about it last year sometime)

Hammerfang · 11-13-2006, 08:41 AM

that sucks, i want the e92 m3 to come out asap so the e46 m3 prices go down

ase2dais · 11-13-2006, 08:44 AM

lolz

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Originally Posted by Hammerfang

that sucks, i want the e92 m3 to come out asap so the e46 m3 prices go down

I bet if even it does you'll hold on to your precious 95-325i
they are great cars is wat Im saying!

ALPINE6SPD · 11-13-2006, 08:48 AM

this car will be here no earlier than nov. Do not be surprised if they wait till the spring.

aapriadi · 11-13-2006, 10:09 AM

lol reliability issues...autocar is the one with reliability issues

poldim · 11-13-2006, 11:49 AM

I would immagine its has to be something serious for BMW to push this back. Its not like a mom and pop shop pushing something back, there is a lot of beurocratic shit that goes behind something like this in a company this size.

E90Fleet · 11-13-2006, 12:05 PM

Guys I spoke to today have heard nothing about a delay or problems

MrSilver · 11-13-2006, 01:12 PM

I'm selfishly glad there is a delay.

southlight · 11-13-2006, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E90Fleet

Guys I spoke to today have heard nothing about a delay or problems

Can you share any new information on the M3? Something like "SOP is ..."??

Best regards south

BMW F22 · 11-13-2006, 01:17 PM

If this is the case, I would get a second year model rather than the first. Since it's a new engine and all, it's kinda scary. THen again, same case with the E90.

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bavarian19 General 517 Rep 18,858 Posts Drives: Car Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: VA iTrader: (23)	I guess BMW learned from the oil pump issues in the first year of production for the E46 M3... Better to have your issues ironed out before releasing the product...
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RiXst3r 274 Rep 6,510 Posts Drives: M235i Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ohio iTrader: (14)	or making a bump up in HP to widen the gap between the m3 and a tuned 335
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0700700 Major 81 Rep 1,055 Posts Drives: 745li / cls 55 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: BG iTrader: (0)	i think they are bumping the HP, but not because of the 335i... they fear the RS4, cause its such a brilliant overall package __________________ 2007 CLS55 AMG / 2003 BMW 745Li
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RaptorKTM Colonel 236 Rep 2,366 Posts Drives: 1 M Coupe Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: San Diego iTrader: (1) Garage List 2011 BMW 1 M [0.00]	i dont think this is going to be the case. i think bmw is goign to release this m3 faster then we think
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FirstClass Brigadier General 41 Rep 3,200 Posts Drives: 328xi Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Pittsburgh, PA iTrader: (0)	Thats not really a delay, its been end of 2007 for some time now.
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user1 First Lieutenant 8 Rep 309 Posts Drives: 01 330ci; 07 335i Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Irvine iTrader: (0)	Bumping to Nov is no big deal. It was supposed to launch Sept so they are only adding 2 months. They probably found a glitch or two and want a little more testing - avoid the e46 first year problems that created a bad stigma for a couple years on the M3s. I doubt they are adding power at this stage in the development/testing. There is too much testing that would need to be started over to make a meaningful bump in HP to an engine. A two month push isnt enough time for changes. Its just enough time to work out kinks in the existing systems.
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Buffalo_Bush Private First Class 21 Rep 106 Posts Drives: 07 E92 335i Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: CA iTrader: (0)	is new york auto show before or after the LA auto show. because i was really hoping bmw would have atleast a 'concept'm3 at la this year.
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Hammerfang Private First Class 15 Rep 159 Posts Drives: 2017 F31 330i M-sport Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: NJ iTrader: (0)	that sucks, i want the e92 m3 to come out asap so the e46 m3 prices go down
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aapriadi Colonel 189 Rep 2,068 Posts Drives: '13 F30 AW 320i Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Jakarta, Indonesia iTrader: (10)	lol reliability issues...autocar is the one with reliability issues __________________ mod = crack
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