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      02-02-2010, 07:21 AM   #1
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Hey everyone,

Got my 09 335i xdrive having starting issues.
Was in the dealer january 6th for the same issue they replaced
It with a rebuilt one. Seemed okay for a bit now yesterday the issue came back.

Usuallly on a cold start I open the car, key in ignition, clutch down (car is parked
In my driveway e-brake up) press start button, car proceeds to start, then vehicle
Makes a high pitch whine with the sound of grinding,for about 4 to 6 seconds this
Continues with my finger off the starter button. I press the starter button
To turn off, I then proceed to start vehicle again and it usually starts fine.

It only seems to happen when the car sits in the cold overnight, I have scheduled it for service
Tonite to see if the dealer can replicate the issue. In the meantime I was wondering
If anyone else had this problem.

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      02-02-2010, 07:24 AM   #2
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dude i just dropped mine off yesterday for the same thing. they kept it overnight to see if they can replicate. i'll update on what they tell me.
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      02-03-2010, 08:17 PM   #3
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any update bro?
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      02-03-2010, 08:26 PM   #4
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Most service reps don't fix the car unless it throws a code. Unfortunately you know the car is busted. They just leave you flat until it's convenient to repair. There's obviously something wrong with the software to miss the problems so many times. You're just out of luck unless you have a cool dealer.
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      02-04-2010, 06:31 AM   #5
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well my guys working on it if it isnt fixed this time is lemon !
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sorry guys for respondong so late had training to do at work and have just been worn out. anyeway took it to the dealer and it wsa the HPFP. i didnt have the whole limp mode thing but it was starting kinda rough. got replaced and now its running good as new.
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sounds like a bad starter
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really fuel pump?! even though it was intermittent?!

jeeze man every fuel pump seems to need to be replaced!
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ps ive had my starter replaced
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Most service reps don't fix the car unless it throws a code. Unfortunately you know the car is busted. They just leave you flat until it's convenient to repair. There's obviously something wrong with the software to miss the problems so many times. You're just out of luck unless you have a cool dealer.
Why that makes no sense is that the computer can easily miss things, whether it is malfunctioning or not. I hate to say it but the whole BMW sales/service thing really reminds me of the word lazy.

Everyone has a dumb SA story to share, but let's face it, the whole experience underwhelms, whereas the cars are fun to drive as long as they're working properly. Forget the $$$ it takes to keep them running, if that's factored-in it's game over. It's all about the car and driving.
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ps ive had my starter replaced
It really bugs me that a person could have a 2k8-9 and need a new starter motor. I just question the supply chain and BMW's suppliers or what they spec out. Here I go again, my 12 y.o. Nissan has not had a new starter, water pump, fuel pump, etc. yet. It cannot perform like a BMW, but the components don't break. What is so hard about BMW obtaining a starter that will last 10+ years?
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bmw told ,e they couldnt replicate the issue are they serious!
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bmw told ,e they couldnt replicate the issue are they serious!
I hear you, BMW service is a joke. My car died twice on the road, and the SA calls me and says they can't find anything and probably wont be able to do anything until it dies and there is a warning lamp.

They cover all this with the high price tag. If a BMW ever becomes an item that people are not willing to pay a premium for, they will topple. Look at Volvo and Saab, which were desirable vehicles back in our grandparents' days.
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Man, it's all about the money and nothing about the customer. I got to tell, I love driving that car, but my dealer is lazy as all get out. There must be tons of lazy dealers out there. There's three things I can't stand hearing when I go there:
a) Can't replicate
b) It's your gasoline
c) What did you do to the car?

My other ride has the same environment as the 335i (gas station, garaged, well-kept and no mods) No issues; nothing but the best. They do need to get out of that "lazy mode", and get to work. I can't imagine how they treat prople who mod their cars, but it can't be anyless they do for me because they have done nothing. I think it kills them everytime I drive in the shop..............ugh
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Man, it's all about the money and nothing about the customer. I got to tell, I love driving that car, but my dealer is lazy as all get out. There must be tons of lazy dealers out there. There's three things I can't stand hearing when I go there:
a) Can't replicate
b) It's your gasoline
c) What did you do to the car?

My other ride has the same environment as the 335i (gas station, garaged, well-kept and no mods) No issues; nothing but the best. They do need to get out of that "lazy mode", and get to work. I can't imagine how they treat prople who mod their cars, but it can't be anyless they do for me because they have done nothing. I think it kills them everytime I drive in the shop..............ugh
Word, I go to my dealership as soon as they open, at 7 am, so I can get through the check-in, and take a loaner to work on time. They hate people who come in when they open, they all have that deer in headlights look and are surfing the web, updating their facebook profiles, playing mafia wars, etc. The only people who are treated nicely are attractive females--I personally saw my SA touch an attractive woman last time I was there. Who the F does he think he is? If she's my wife, it's time to step outside.
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just a new update its back in today...i really just want it fixed i mean these cars are awesome and the power
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Man, it's all about the money and nothing about the customer. I got to tell, I love driving that car, but my dealer is lazy as all get out. There must be tons of lazy dealers out there. There's three things I can't stand hearing when I go there:
a) Can't replicate
b) It's your gasoline
c) What did you do to the car?

My other ride has the same environment as the 335i (gas station, garaged, well-kept and no mods) No issues; nothing but the best. They do need to get out of that "lazy mode", and get to work. I can't imagine how they treat prople who mod their cars, but it can't be anyless they do for me because they have done nothing. I think it kills them everytime I drive in the shop..............ugh
BMW, like everyone else in the industry, is trying to keep warranty costs down. I suppose they could have a technician just throw parts at the problem everytime the customer comes back complaining.
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