Luxury vs Performance

stl2chi · 01-08-2010, 03:57 PM

Just some thoughts that ran through my head while sitting in traffic.... In a 328 Xdrive loaner.. Given how every new bmw model gets more options...

I bought my car for its performance and handling... As I assume most of you did as well. After owning other makes... Not sure that I consider my car a "luxury" car.. more of a performance vehicle.. Not like a ferrari... but not like a cadi or bentley or lexus.

However, most of the non-BMW / non-enthusiast that I encounter consider BMWs to be "Luxury". Do you find this to be true?

Some additional random thoughts....

What "luxuries" could I live without?
HD radio
I-drive
heated steering wheel
Upgraded pricing!
heated rear seats
DVD for kiddies

Luxuries that I gotta have:
heated seats (wish I had climate controlled)
Blue-tooth
Ipod
comfort access with push button
BMW performance and handling

Whats your thoughts? Which ones must you have vs nice to have but not required.

Perhaps BMW could review.. then save some weight on newer models! LOL

Dereleek · 01-08-2010, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by stl2chi

Just some thoughts that ran through my head while sitting in traffic.... In a 328 Xdrive loaner.. Given how every new bmw model gets more options...

I bought my car for its performance and handling... As I assume most of you did as well. After owning other makes... Not sure that I consider my car a "luxury" car.. more of a performance vehicle.. Not like a ferrari... but not like a cadi or bentley or lexus.

However, most of the non-BMW / non-enthusiast that I encounter consider BMWs to be "Luxury". Do you find this to be true?

Some additional random thoughts....

What "luxuries" could I live without?
HD radio
I-drive
heated steering wheel
Upgraded pricing!
heated rear seats
DVD for kiddies

Luxuries that I gotta have:
heated seats (wish I had climate controlled)
Blue-tooth
Ipod
comfort access with push button
BMW performance and handling

Whats your thoughts? Which ones must you have vs nice to have but not required.

Perhaps BMW could review.. then save some weight on newer models! LOL

I personally feel like BMW and luxury are synonymous.

And yes, BMW could definitely shed a bit more weight off their vehicles

GOTTA HAVE:

1. SPORTS SEATS

2. I-DRIVE
3. Xenon headlights
4. Heated Seats
5. 6MT

LIVE WITHOUT

1. HD radio
2. BMW Assist
3. Power Seats
4. Comfort Access
5. Moonroof

Oulixes · 01-08-2010, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stl2chi

Just some thoughts that ran through my head while sitting in traffic.... In a 328 Xdrive loaner.. Given how every new bmw model gets more options...

I bought my car for its performance and handling... As I assume most of you did as well. After owning other makes... Not sure that I consider my car a "luxury" car.. more of a performance vehicle.. Not like a ferrari... but not like a cadi or bentley or lexus.

However, most of the non-BMW / non-enthusiast that I encounter consider BMWs to be "Luxury". Do you find this to be true?

Some additional random thoughts....

What "luxuries" could I live without?
HD radio
I-drive
heated steering wheel
Upgraded pricing!
heated rear seats
DVD for kiddies

Luxuries that I gotta have:
heated seats (wish I had climate controlled)
Blue-tooth
Ipod
comfort access with push button
BMW performance and handling

Whats your thoughts? Which ones must you have vs nice to have but not required.

Perhaps BMW could review.. then save some weight on newer models! LOL

You've answered your own question. People buying an M-less 3-series car include the performance in a list of must-haves, and not necessarily as the first item.

BOOSTED4DR · 01-08-2010, 04:47 PM

Id say its Luxury Sport..

Gavin@MMW · 01-08-2010, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BOOSTED4DR

Id say its Luxury Sport..

took the words right out of my mouth

Oulixes · 01-08-2010, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BOOSTED4DR

Id say its Luxury Sport..

Well said.

WestTexas335 · 01-08-2010, 05:18 PM

I got the 335i, standard six speed and MSport package for the performance, the metalic paint, leather seats and satellite radio were for luxury. You could make the argument that the MSport over the regular sport package is a luxury item becasue after the wheels, suspention and seats the rest is mostly BS that looks cool.

cgpublic · 01-08-2010, 05:48 PM

...Sport Luxury.

The essence of the BMW brand is centered on Sport, for which buyers are willing to pay a premium. Because of the premium, BMW offers Luxury features to maximize the revenue opportunity.

asus389 · 01-08-2010, 06:43 PM

IMHO all I need to be happy is ZSP and 6MT. Bluetooth and iPod come in a close second. Could care less about iDrive, wireless key fobs, wood trim, etc...

E92-Lighting · 01-08-2010, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by cgpublic

...Sport Luxury.

The essence of the BMW brand is centered on Sport, for which buyers are willing to pay a premium. Because of the premium, BMW offers Luxury features to maximize the revenue opportunity.

that sounds about right i might add. luxury with a little bit of sport

2kaccordocoupe · 01-08-2010, 11:36 PM

+1 on the Luxury Sport

Must Haves:
Comfort Access
iDrive
Sport Package
Leather
Adaptive Xenons
Heated Steering Wheel & Seats
Sun Roof
Bluetooth
Individual Audio
USB / IPOD
Rest Button

Items that I currently have that I could do without:
HD Radio - Not enough broadcast it.
Satellite Radio - Audio quality is garbage.
Compass Mirror - Don't need it with iDrive

captainaudio · 01-09-2010, 12:08 AM

I have a 335i. I have owned a lot of cars over the years and this is my first BMW. This is my impression so far. Not all that luxurious, not all that sporty but a very good balance between the two and an excellent fun to drive daily driver. I think this is exaclty what BMW had in mind when they designed the car and they seem to have pulled it off.

CA

Craig@SupremePower · 01-09-2010, 12:53 AM

i believe the 335 has both...

Zero.7 · 01-09-2010, 01:44 AM

I also vote for BOTH...performance and luxury. Again, BMW really knows how to strike a balance between the two with their 3 series. They are not true sports cars (nonMs) and not very luxuorious, but a damn well balanced car. We literally get the best of both worlds at a, dare I say, fairly reasonable price. I just wished they would include more luxury items as standard items

They nickel and dime you for every little thing. Common now....$250 dollars for an iPod adapter!!?!?

demosthenes · 01-09-2010, 01:59 AM

Sport first, luxury second. It's the other way around with Lexus and Mercedes.

The ride/handling balance is a good example. Our ZSP equipped cars are clearly set up for great handling, but most non-enthusiasts would hate the ride, especially with RFT's.

I like my premium package but I could do without it. But I couldn't do without ZSP, Xenons and 6MT.

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stl2chi Enlisted Member 10 Rep 32 Posts Drives: 2015 F12 640xi Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: chicago iTrader: (0)	Luxury vs Performance Just some thoughts that ran through my head while sitting in traffic.... In a 328 Xdrive loaner.. Given how every new bmw model gets more options... I bought my car for its performance and handling... As I assume most of you did as well. After owning other makes... Not sure that I consider my car a "luxury" car.. more of a performance vehicle.. Not like a ferrari... but not like a cadi or bentley or lexus. However, most of the non-BMW / non-enthusiast that I encounter consider BMWs to be "Luxury". Do you find this to be true? Some additional random thoughts.... What "luxuries" could I live without? HD radio I-drive heated steering wheel Upgraded pricing! heated rear seats DVD for kiddies Luxuries that I gotta have: heated seats (wish I had climate controlled) Blue-tooth Ipod comfort access with push button BMW performance and handling Whats your thoughts? Which ones must you have vs nice to have but not required. Perhaps BMW could review.. then save some weight on newer models! LOL
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BOOSTED4DR Captain 29 Rep 932 Posts Drives: 07 335i Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: BK,NYC iTrader: (6)	Id say its Luxury Sport..
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WestTexas335 BMW CCA member 0 Rep 14 Posts Drives: 2010 E90 335i Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: El Paso, Texas iTrader: (0)	I got the 335i, standard six speed and MSport package for the performance, the metalic paint, leather seats and satellite radio were for luxury. You could make the argument that the MSport over the regular sport package is a luxury item becasue after the wheels, suspention and seats the rest is mostly BS that looks cool. __________________ 2010/E90/335i/manual/MSport
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cgpublic Lieutenant 22 Rep 508 Posts Drives: 2015 A3 2.0T Quattro Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Brooklyn to Bronxville iTrader: (0)	I'd say... ...Sport Luxury. The essence of the BMW brand is centered on Sport, for which buyers are willing to pay a premium. Because of the premium, BMW offers Luxury features to maximize the revenue opportunity. __________________ Present: 2015 Audi A3 2.0T Quattro \| Scuba Blue \| Sport Past: 2011 E90 335 xDrive (March Build) \| Deep Sea Blue \| Saddle Brown \| Brushed Aluminum Packages & Options: Premium \| Sport \| Cold Weather \| BMW Apps, iDrive & iPod Past: 2008 E90 328xi \| Montego Blue \| Dakota Black \| Brushed Aluminum Packages & Options: Premium \| Sport \| Xenon \| CA \| Heated Seats \| iPod
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asus389 Captain 68 Rep 639 Posts Drives: 11 E90 328i Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Michigan iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 BMW 328i [0.00]	IMHO all I need to be happy is ZSP and 6MT. Bluetooth and iPod come in a close second. Could care less about iDrive, wireless key fobs, wood trim, etc...
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2kaccordocoupe Brigadier General 1274 Rep 4,703 Posts Drives: Former ///M Driver Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: The 6ix iTrader: (2)	+1 on the Luxury Sport Must Haves: Comfort Access iDrive Sport Package Leather Adaptive Xenons Heated Steering Wheel & Seats Sun Roof Bluetooth Individual Audio USB / IPOD Rest Button Items that I currently have that I could do without: HD Radio - Not enough broadcast it. Satellite Radio - Audio quality is garbage. Compass Mirror - Don't need it with iDrive
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captainaudio World's Foremost Authority 1181 Rep 4,535 Posts Drives: M4 Cab - Cayenne GTS - Jag XK Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Upper East Side Manhattan - Boca Raton FL - Lime Rock CT iTrader: (0)	I have a 335i. I have owned a lot of cars over the years and this is my first BMW. This is my impression so far. Not all that luxurious, not all that sporty but a very good balance between the two and an excellent fun to drive daily driver. I think this is exaclty what BMW had in mind when they designed the car and they seem to have pulled it off. CA __________________ Drivers Club at Lime Rock - International Motorsports Research Center - Society of Automotive Historians - Madison Avenue Sports Car Driving and Chowder Society (0nly a VP) - BMWCCA - Porsche Club of America - M Gruppe - Polish Race Drivers of America (PDRA) - Glen Club (Watkins Glen International) - Jaguar Club of Southern New England
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Zero.7 Colonel 97 Rep 2,415 Posts Drives: F30 340i AW M-Sport Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: SOCAL iTrader: (6)	I also vote for BOTH...performance and luxury. Again, BMW really knows how to strike a balance between the two with their 3 series. They are not true sports cars (nonMs) and not very luxuorious, but a damn well balanced car. We literally get the best of both worlds at a, dare I say, fairly reasonable price. I just wished they would include more luxury items as standard items They nickel and dime you for every little thing. Common now....$250 dollars for an iPod adapter!!?!? __________________ '16 f30 AW 340i M-sport 8-speed Auto BMW ///M Performance Power and Sound Kit with Carbon Tips / Gloss Black Performance grilles
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demosthenes Major 48 Rep 1,162 Posts Drives: E90 328i 6MT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: SF Bay Area iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 328i sedan [0.00]	Sport first, luxury second. It's the other way around with Lexus and Mercedes. The ride/handling balance is a good example. Our ZSP equipped cars are clearly set up for great handling, but most non-enthusiasts would hate the ride, especially with RFT's. I like my premium package but I could do without it. But I couldn't do without ZSP, Xenons and 6MT.
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