[euroroots]

How come the two cars share the same engine and the 335i is the one with all the trouble ? I hear very little complain on the 135i how is it possible ?

[FLA 335]

Originally Posted by euroroots

How come the two cars share the same engine and the 335i is the one with all the trouble ? I hear very little complain on the 135i how is it possible ?

have you checked the 1addicts forums??

just asking because on here you will only hear about the 3 series...

i am in love with the 1 series but can do without a proper back seat...!

[euroroots]

yeah i took a look on 1 addict and didnt see anything scary compared to what i've see n here which made me look at the IS350 instead of the 335i. but i would rather buy a 135i if they fixed the HPFP issue.

[jibaholic101]

being an owner of both, and spending a majority of my posts and time over on 1addicts, i can tell you that there are all kinds of problems. we share the same drivetrain and motor......

hpfp
rattles
1-2nd mesh problems
taillights/headlights
etc

the 335i has been around for longer than the 135i, so it would seem that there are more problems through the years, plus there are considerably more 335i owners vs. 135i owners

[jocamryn]

Ewww! No thanks, I think I'd take an AUDI A5 sportback over that if I was excluding the 3er.

Originally Posted by euroroots

yeah i took a look on 1 addict and didnt see anything scary compared to what i've see n here which made me look at the IS350 instead of the 335i. but i would rather buy a 135i if they fixed the HPFP issue.

[akack79]

b/c BMW sells way more 335i than 135i so you will hear more issues with the 3.

[euroroots]

ok i get it now, it sucks i was really waiting to get a 135 or 335i but now i'm not gonna take the chance since the car will be exported and no warranty where i live :-(

[samchoi604]

if you aren't covered by warranty, forget about it! I've taken my used 335i to the dealership for warranty works for 5 times now in the past 4 months. Would have cost me a fortune if it weren't for the warranty.

[JayKay335i]

Apparently 135i drivers bitch and whine less.

[jocamryn]

get the 335is, 360+ HP when it overboosts! N55 engine...

[JulieDriving]

Originally Posted by jocamryn

get the 335is, 360+ HP when it overboosts! N55 engine...

Actually, the 335is uses the N54 engine.

Time will tell if the N55 is more reliable than the N54.

[karimMsalama]

go for 335i its the best

[PKumarM3]

1 series were limited (low production amt) cars vs. the 3 year old n54 335. less cars, not as many problems - more cars, more problems.

Originally Posted by jibaholic101

hpfp
rattles
1-2nd mesh problems
taillights/headlights
etc

hpfp issue is so bad. can't believe bmw has not been able to fix it. its been 3 years! the e46 m3 had the rod bearing recall within its 2nd year production, and an additional motor warranty (10 years, 100,000 miles).

1-2 syncromesh issues i have not heard of. for some reason, i am always lazy with the 1-2 shift in my 335. i gotta quicken it up!

my headlights are so f'ed. i had my cars on kw coils. adjusted the lights. one night they aimed to the ground. bmw claims that i broke the adjustment screw and they would good will one head lamp and the labor, but i would have to pay for another head lamp. told em to go f off.

removed the coils recenlty, and the car lights up the road fine. although lights are a bit crooked, they work!

[Kilgore Trout]

Originally Posted by euroroots

How come the two cars share the same engine and the 335i is the one with all the trouble ? I hear very little complain on the 135i how is it possible ?

According to Consumer Reports, reliability of the 135 is about equivalent to the 335. Except for the fuel delivery issues, both vehicles are actually fairly reliable.

[3pnt4maro]

the 3 series platform has been around longer so you will hear about less problems with the 1 series having the newer platform and all the kinks havent been worked out yet..but as far as the motor its the same motor and setup...just more 3 series are sold vs the 1 series

[JakeN5]

Originally Posted by Kilgore Trout

According to Consumer Reports, reliability of the 135 is about equivalent to the 335. Except for the fuel delivery issues, both vehicles are actually fairly reliable.

I've read that CR gave both the 135i and 535i "lower than average" reliability rating. There is no specific mention of the 335i, though as a class the 3er is still "recommended" by them. Possibly that could be due to the good survey feedback on the 328i, which CR says is the most reliable in BMW range.

[samchoi604]

In the long run I think the 135i will have less problems and easier to maintain since it is a lighter car.. less stress on the engine, bearings, suspension, brakes, you name it.

[galahad05]

Barely less weight.

Originally Posted by samchoi604

In the long run I think the 135i will have less problems and easier to maintain since it is a lighter car.. less stress on the engine, bearings, suspension, brakes, you name it.

negligible stress =/

[nocturnal25]

Im comming from a is350 and looking to get into a 335i coupe,if you want proven reliability then go with the is350. Iv owned my car since new in 06 and never had 1 problem with it, im looking into a 335i cause if your into the modding game then your gonna get bored quickly of the is350. Theres absolutly no aftermarket performance parts for the lexus other then exhaust,headers,intake etc and if people think the idrive is bad try lexus's nav

[jibaholic101]

Originally Posted by PKumarM3

1 series were limited (low production amt) cars vs. the 3 year old n54 335. less cars, not as many problems - more cars, more problems.




hpfp issue is so bad. can't believe bmw has not been able to fix it. its been 3 years! the e46 m3 had the rod bearing recall within its 2nd year production, and an additional motor warranty (10 years, 100,000 miles).

1-2 syncromesh issues i have not heard of. for some reason, i am always lazy with the 1-2 shift in my 335. i gotta quicken it up!

my headlights are so f'ed. i had my cars on kw coils. adjusted the lights. one night they aimed to the ground. bmw claims that i broke the adjustment screw and they would good will one head lamp and the labor, but i would have to pay for another head lamp. told em to go f off.

removed the coils recenlty, and the car lights up the road fine. although lights are a bit crooked, they work!

yeah, i am still appaled about this whole HPFP and how BMW seems to want to shove the issue under the rug

the 1-2 syncromesh is bad in these cars because it will grind if you try to shift too fast 1-2, most noticeable if the clutch and the gears are cold

the 3rd brakelight always seems to want to break on the 1er as well...

[cotmfk]

Originally Posted by euroroots

ok i get it now, it sucks i was really waiting to get a 135 or 335i but now i'm not gonna take the chance since the car will be exported and no warranty where i live :-(

I understand your not wanting BMW because of fuel pump issues. I have no problem with that, and do not want to try and sway you to BMW.

That said, I would also avoid IS 350. It's an old bodystyle that is about to be replaced, has gas pedal problems, brake problems, etc, and a company that admits it knew about all those problems! All that being said, any Toyota product should also be off your list.

Personally, I would go with S4/S5. Similar price range, similar performance, etc.

Good luck!