Your thoughts

kenneth · 10-03-2009, 01:31 PM

Ok, current track setup is Koni Yellows and H&R sports. Got myself Camber plates and looking to get the hotchkis sways.

What are your thoughts on this setup, and for those who have installed hotchkis, what are your settings F/R? (The long route would be to set full soft F/R and make small adjustments till I get it right).

Thanks, any comments would be much appreciated.

Gen_E92 · 10-03-2009, 07:17 PM

Why not get M3 sways? Anyhow, if you're doing LSD soon then I would just do those two together, along with M3 subframe bushings, doing all of them together will save you a ton on labor.

Then maybe get some coilovers after that? I think you'll notice a big difference because the H&R springs is not good for performance at all. Adjustable sway bars are kinda pointless IMO, adjustable coilovers would be much more helpful.

Btw did you get the Vorshlag camber plates?

S4to335 · 10-03-2009, 07:57 PM

I am not sure the sways are necessary if your suspension is tuned properly. I would get the camber plates though...having minimal camber in front stinks.

kenneth · 10-03-2009, 08:09 PM

Yes, I got the Vorslag camber plates from Harold HP Autowerks, not yet installed. What some have been saying, not sure how accurate, is that if your setup have too much roll it kind of makes the use of camber plates useless.

Now, if true, how do you go about minimizing roll, through the use of stiffer springs/dampers/coilovers only, or also with sways. You both seem to be saying the sways are not necessary.

Appreciate your input

Gen_E92 · 10-03-2009, 09:15 PM

I think the fact that you're getting LSD should be a factor as well. I wouldn't go with Hotchkis because they're tuned on a factory car without LSD iirc. M3 sways should work better imo if you have LSD. With M3 sways, LSD, and all the other M3 bits, you should have a better suspension set up than factory M3 once you switch to some properly set up coilovers.

kenneth · 10-03-2009, 09:55 PM

Great points! Thanks. Have been resisting going the coilover route, since I did not want anything extreme as Montreal roads are the worst.

So I have no choice but to compromise Track and (bad) Street. Doing a good job of it is what is difficult, with so many options and so little knowledge.

10-03-2009, 01:31 PM	#1
kenneth Major General 125 Rep 8,745 Posts Drives: 335i Sedan Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Montreal iTrader: (16)	Your thoughts Ok, current track setup is Koni Yellows and H&R sports. Got myself Camber plates and looking to get the hotchkis sways. What are your thoughts on this setup, and for those who have installed hotchkis, what are your settings F/R? (The long route would be to set full soft F/R and make small adjustments till I get it right). Thanks, any comments would be much appreciated. __________________ SB, Terra, 6MT. Only a few mods here and there.....nothing extreme!
	Appreciate 0 Tweet Quote

10-03-2009, 07:17 PM	#2
Gen_E92 Brigadier General 118 Rep 3,432 Posts Drives: slow Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Vancouver iTrader: (17) Garage List 2007 335i [7.80]	Why not get M3 sways? Anyhow, if you're doing LSD soon then I would just do those two together, along with M3 subframe bushings, doing all of them together will save you a ton on labor. Then maybe get some coilovers after that? I think you'll notice a big difference because the H&R springs is not good for performance at all. Adjustable sway bars are kinda pointless IMO, adjustable coilovers would be much more helpful. Btw did you get the Vorshlag camber plates?
	Appreciate 0 Quote

10-03-2009, 07:57 PM	#3
S4to335 Brigadier General 436 Rep 4,380 Posts Drives: 2014 Audi A4 / 91 Track Miata Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: San Jose, CA iTrader: (5) Garage List 2007 BMW 335i sedan [8.00]	I am not sure the sways are necessary if your suspension is tuned properly. I would get the camber plates though...having minimal camber in front stinks. __________________ Car is now gone .... :-(
	Appreciate 0 Quote

10-03-2009, 08:09 PM	#4
kenneth Major General 125 Rep 8,745 Posts Drives: 335i Sedan Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Montreal iTrader: (16)	Yes, I got the Vorslag camber plates from Harold HP Autowerks, not yet installed. What some have been saying, not sure how accurate, is that if your setup have too much roll it kind of makes the use of camber plates useless. Now, if true, how do you go about minimizing roll, through the use of stiffer springs/dampers/coilovers only, or also with sways. You both seem to be saying the sways are not necessary. Appreciate your input __________________ SB, Terra, 6MT. Only a few mods here and there.....nothing extreme!
	Appreciate 0 Quote

10-03-2009, 09:15 PM	#5
Gen_E92 Brigadier General 118 Rep 3,432 Posts Drives: slow Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Vancouver iTrader: (17) Garage List 2007 335i [7.80]	I think the fact that you're getting LSD should be a factor as well. I wouldn't go with Hotchkis because they're tuned on a factory car without LSD iirc. M3 sways should work better imo if you have LSD. With M3 sways, LSD, and all the other M3 bits, you should have a better suspension set up than factory M3 once you switch to some properly set up coilovers.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

10-03-2009, 09:55 PM	#6
kenneth Major General 125 Rep 8,745 Posts Drives: 335i Sedan Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Montreal iTrader: (16)	Great points! Thanks. Have been resisting going the coilover route, since I did not want anything extreme as Montreal roads are the worst. So I have no choice but to compromise Track and (bad) Street. Doing a good job of it is what is difficult, with so many options and so little knowledge. __________________ SB, Terra, 6MT. Only a few mods here and there.....nothing extreme!
	Appreciate 0 Quote