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      01-11-2009, 01:17 AM   #1
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coilover help

TC Kline True Match S/A Coilover Kit or Bilstein PSS9?
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      01-11-2009, 05:29 PM   #2
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I have the same question. But I want to know which is the best set-up for a daily driver and monthly track car combo like I use my Z4M Coupe.

TC Kline DA
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KW Variant 3 coilovers
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      01-13-2009, 07:06 AM   #3
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im pretty sure they don't make the blistein pss9 for the m. The TCK would be better for the track, but i don't no about the kw. Ask O-Cha about his tck d/a coliovers. I talked to him about it and he seems to like them.
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      01-15-2009, 01:43 PM   #4
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What about these?

http://www.ground-control-store.com/...p/II=687/CA=11
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      01-15-2009, 02:05 PM   #5
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i believe that those are for the z3 m coupe. I might be wrong. It says: Condition
also fits 318ti, and Roadsters, and non-M cars

the 318ti hasn't been around for a while, around the z3 time period. Ill email them and find out.
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ground control emailed me back, and they do sell the z4 m coilover.
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Can anyone comment on the Ground Control product vs. the others listed above?
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      01-15-2009, 08:01 PM   #8
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http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=321380
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=333796

hopefully this helps.
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I have the same question. But I want to know which is the best set-up for a daily driver and monthly track car combo like I use my Z4M Coupe.

TC Kline DA
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KW Variant 3 coilovers
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Bilstein PSS9


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For you between the kw and tckline I'd get the tckline, I don't know enough about the bilsten though.
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      01-16-2009, 12:19 AM   #10
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if you do not track the car alot, i'd stay away from the tck. KW has a variable spring rate, meaning it can be slightly softer around town, but will tighten up as your driving becomes more agressive
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if you do not track the car alot, i'd stay away from the tck. KW has a variable spring rate, meaning it can be slightly softer around town, but will tighten up as your driving becomes more agressive
I disagree greatly. On full soft my DAs ride better then stock, and that's on 500/600 springs. KWs are for people who want to drop their car super low and ruin the handling, they have no real benefits besides that.
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I disagree greatly. On full soft my DAs ride better then stock, and that's on 500/600 springs. KWs are for people who want to drop their car super low and ruin the handling, they have no real benefits besides that.
i hardly dropped my car at all, and the handling has become slightly better. i imagine it would suck if i dumped it, but thats dumb in the first place. i wanted to get TCK's my self, but was able to pick these up for 1700
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i hardly dropped my car at all, and the handling has become slightly better. i imagine it would suck if i dumped it, but thats dumb in the first place. i wanted to get TCK's my self, but was able to pick these up for 1700
Where did you get them for $1700?
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I disagree greatly. On full soft my DAs ride better then stock, and that's on 500/600 springs. KWs are for people who want to drop their car super low and ruin the handling, they have no real benefits besides that.
So in your opinion KWs do not improve handling?
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here is the link for the ground control suspension...

http://www.ground-control-store.com/...ion.php/II=774
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      01-20-2009, 01:55 PM   #17
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These look very good. Reasonably priced for sure.
Caster/camber plates included? Sweet.
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So in your opinion KWs do not improve handling?
I didn't say that, I said not as good as the tckline will with minimal to zero benefits to make up for it.
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I didn't say that, I said not as good as the tckline will with minimal to zero benefits to make up for it.
yeah you said it would ruin handling. last time i ruined something, it was definitely a detriment, not an improvent
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here is the link for the ground control suspension...

http://www.ground-control-store.com/...ion.php/II=774
LOL reading through the descriptions made me feel like I was in the middle of a SHAM-WOW! commercial with all the references to being made in Germany
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LOL reading through the descriptions made me feel like I was in the middle of a SHAM-WOW! commercial with all the references to being made in Germany
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yeah you said it would ruin handling. last time i ruined something, it was definitely a detriment, not an improvent
In reference to slamming the car, do you not know how to read entire sentences? If you slam a car onto it's tires you'll mess up the geometry so much it will handle horridly. Doesn't mean you have to with the KWs, but thats the reason most people buy them, because you can do that, where as with a lot of other setups you'll run out of adjustment.
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