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      01-04-2023, 08:07 AM   #1
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BMW should Govern RPMs

Why does BMW not govern the 5500 rpm break in period? They govern the speed limit because they want more money. I’m in this M4 beast and trying hard to stay under the 5500 rpm, but a few times had the yellow light up pretty high and 1 time I saw red. I always lease my cars but this time I bought it. I was never one to baby my cars but I’m trying somewhat because I don’t want to lose my warranty. I’m sure they can see all we do. I’m only at 100 miles,this sucks.
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Wait! There’s a break in period?
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Well I would hate to lose my warranty. That could put me in a bad spot especially if transmission or engine had a major problem.
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Well, try spending the next 1,100 miles keeping it out of the red and yellow.

I don’t believe they have any trouble with unsustained yellow or red hits. It’s the people trying to win a burnout contest with 80 miles on the car, just to get rid of the shitty Pirellis.

Don’t feel bad. I went 168 in my car during break-in. Although I think the car had about 900 miles on it. Dealer never told me about the 106mph limit. Oh well. What’s done HS done.
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      01-04-2023, 01:52 PM   #6
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Wait! There’s a break in period?
If there was a way BMW could not see if car was ran hard or how often,I would not worry as much. I personally don’t think these cars need to be Babied so much but I hate to take a chance on warranty being denied. I’m sure from a few times it would not be a problem.
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uh.... no. We don't need manufacturers governing new car RPMs. This sounds like a personal problem, so govern your own right foot.
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You’ll be fine. Don’t overthink it. They’re not going to void your warranty because you hit 6k RPM once during break in. I’m like half way through the break in and it sucks but I’m getting through it.

To that point, is there anything concrete on them actually voiding the warranty?

That feels fake to me. When I purchased the car, I didn’t sign anything that stipulated that the warranty was conditional on rigid adherence to the break in procedure, nor did I receive anything about the break in procedure in writing.

The guy who did my delivery mentioned it but he didn’t say they would void my warranty, he just positioned it as the right thing to do for the car and I agreed.

I’m skeptical that BMW has a legal leg to stand on if they actually tried to void a warranty over this…
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Well, try spending the next 1,100 miles keeping it out of the red and yellow.

I don’t believe they have any trouble with unsustained yellow or red hits. It’s the people trying to win a burnout contest with 80 miles on the car, just to get rid of the shitty Pirellis.

Don’t feel bad. I went 168 in my car during break-in. Although I think the car had about 900 miles on it. Dealer never told me about the 106mph limit. Oh well. What’s done HS done.
I am trying. Hoping they let me bring her in at 1k. I’m not trying to smoke em yet, I’m leaving it In 4 wheel drive and all Nannie’s on.
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I am trying. Hoping they let me bring her in at 1k. I’m not trying to smoke em yet, I’m leaving it In 4 wheel drive and all Nannie’s on.
Some dealer will, some won’t. I would call them and ask what they’re willing to acdept. Call anyway, and make sure they have the fluids in stock. That’s what some people are finding dealers are out of. Usually the gear oil is out or back ordered. My dealer had everything in stock.
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You’ll be fine. Don’t overthink it. They’re not going to void your warranty because you hit 6k RPM once during break in. I’m like half way through the break in and it sucks but I’m getting through it.

To that point, is there anything concrete on them actually voiding the warranty?

That feels fake to me. When I purchased the car, I didn’t sign anything that stipulated that the warranty was conditional on rigid adherence to the break in procedure, nor did I receive anything about the break in procedure in writing.

The guy who did my delivery mentioned it but he didn’t say they would void my warranty, he just positioned it as the right thing to do for the car and I agreed.

I’m skeptical that BMW has a legal leg to stand on if they actually tried to void a warranty over this…
They never gave me anything to sign or strict instructions on break in either. You are probably right about last statement. Your correct I need to not overthink it, it’s not like I’m trying to beat her up. Just trying to enjoy. Thanks
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Because of road safety, it cannot be governed. If you need to do a quick overtake or something to avoid an accident and you can't because of artificial limits, then it could be a problem for BMW.

The manual clearly says to avoid high RPM and speed but does not forbid it. At least this is how it is written in my French one.
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Because of road safety, it cannot be governed. If you need to do a quick overtake or something to avoid an accident and you can't because of artificial limits, then it could be a problem for BMW.

The manual clearly says to avoid high RPM and speed but does not forbid it. At least this is how it is written in my French one.
I’m just going to drive the car and if it hits mid yellow here and there so be it. It was emergency Situations. I doubt now that I think about they would not have a leg to stand on unless they prove it was pure abuse.

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Some dealer will, some won’t. I would call them and ask what they’re willing to acdept. Call anyway, and make sure they have the fluids in stock. That’s what some people are finding dealers are out of. Usually the gear oil is out or back ordered. My dealer had everything in stock.
I have plans to check and see if they have everything that’s needed for first service. But now that you mentioned it I will check which dealer will do it at what mileage,I’m comfortable with 1k.

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Because of road safety, it cannot be governed. If you need to do a quick overtake or something to avoid an accident and you can't because of artificial limits, then it could be a problem for BMW.
This is silly when you think about it. It's a 500 hp car and it makes a lot of power in the lower RPMs, this situation is not a concern.

The reason there are no limiters is because there don't need to be any. A bad engine that can limp through the break in period can limp through the rest of its warrantied life.
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I have plans to check and see if they have everything that’s needed for first service. But now that you mentioned it I will check which dealer will do it at what mileage,I’m comfortable with 1k.
Don't lose any sleep over it. Even the people doing terribly unimpressive donuts will get an engine replaced under warranty if the car is stock.
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When I had my E93 M3, there was some debate on whether or not to even follow the break in period or not. I did and it consumed at least a liter of oil between regular oil changes. Others who were less conservative during the break in reported less oil consumption anecdotally. Who really knows, but we really don't need anymore "assistance" from BMW in this regard.
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When I had my E93 M3, there was some debate on whether or not to even follow the break in period or not. I did and it consumed at least a liter of oil between regular oil changes. Others who were less conservative during the break in reported less oil consumption anecdotally. Who really knows, but we really don't need anymore "assistance" from BMW in this regard.
That's not a good example. There is no correlation I've seen between people that strictly followed the break in period recommendations and those that did not vs oil consumption beyond anecdotes.

I have one car that I did not follow the break in recommendations and it does not consume oil. I have another car where I did follow the break in recommendations and it does not consume oil. Some people are just lucky, that's all.
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That's not a good example. There is no correlation I've seen between people that strictly followed the break in period recommendations and those that did not vs oil consumption beyond anecdotes.

I have one car that I did not follow the break in recommendations and it does not consume oil. I have another car where I did follow the break in recommendations and it does not consume oil. Some people are just lucky, that's all.
That is why I noted that "who really knows". The sample data is too small to make any type of correlation, but I think that slight variance over the prescribed RPM is not going to ruin the engine. What I do know is that I personally don't need a nanny to help me control the throttle for 1,200 miles.
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Don't lose any sleep over it. Even the people doing terribly unimpressive donuts will get an engine replaced under warranty if the car is stock.
I’m just driving the car now and not putting to much thought into it. I’m still trying to keep rpm’s down but sometimes it hits mid yellow. I always leased but bought this one. I never ruined an engine and I never really babied my cars. BTW my sleep has been good
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