[Bimmerforlife]

It's ready, I just built my 335d

My 335d Sedan
3.0-liter, turbocharged inline 6-cylinder engine
Rear-wheel drive
See all standard features
Base MSRP $43,900
Titanium Silver Metallic $550
Black Dakota Leather $0
Dark Burl Walnut wood trim $0
Cold Weather Package $1,150
Premium Package $2,650
Sport Package $2,150
Sports leather steering wheel with paddle shifters $100
Navigation system $2,100
Rear manual side window shades $575
HD radio $0
iPod and USB adapter $400
Premium hi-fi system $875
Destination & Handling: $825

Total MSRP as Built $55,275


Only playin, I cant' afford that price way to high for a 3 series. I would consider if it was not so expensive up front. Will BMW really sell alot of these? The idea is great just why so expensive?

[MCMLXXXIX]

NICE!!!

BMW ftw!

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next bmw? i think so!!!

[SLCGoonski]

loaded up it's a $1500 premium over the 335i

stripped it's $3800...basically a free auto trans with the diesel

[noro]

When a 3 series starts approaching a price of a slightly used 911 you know something in the world is upside down.

[Quasimodem]

Funny, I can't click on the "build your own" on the bmwusa homepage anymore, but I have to go into the three series and then click on "build your own." At least I can see what I ordered the other day.

[darkphantom]

Originally Posted by noro

When a 3 series starts approaching a price of a slightly used 911 you know something in the world is upside down.

tell me about it

[Bimmerforlife]

I was thinking as far as the price is concerned, the public is only gonna tell it's a diesel by the d on the end of them emblem, everything else about the car is exactly the same as the regular 335i right? So it's not like your neighbor is going to say look everyone at my $55K 3 series.

Is it the engine that warrants the increase in price? Or does BMW think people will be buying these to keep for 10 or more years? I think to really see a savings a person would have to keep this kind of car for more than 4 years.

Why wouldn't BMW price this diesel lower than the regular 335 to encourage people to save money and the environment, they'd sell a whole lot more of them that way. Why go above the price of the regular 335 just because it's a diesel?

[Insider]

Originally Posted by Bimmerforlife

I was thinking as far as the price is concerned, the public is only gonna tell it's a diesel by the d on the end of them emblem, everything else about the car is exactly the same as the regular 335i right? So it's not like your neighbor is going to say look everyone at my $55K 3 series.

Is it the engine that warrants the increase in price? Or does BMW think people will be buying these to keep for 10 or more years? I think to really see a savings a person would have to keep this kind of car for more than 4 years.

Why wouldn't BMW price this diesel lower than the regular 335 to encourage people to save money and the environment, they'd sell a whole lot more of them that way. Why go above the price of the regular 335 just because it's a diesel?

It cost more to build the diesel. The engine is built stronger to with-stand the high compression ratio plus the 26psi of stock manifold boost pressure from turbos. Even the twin turbo system is more complicated as there is a small turbo and a large turbo to provide the extra boost. This all adds to the cost.

[bsamoul]

Originally Posted by noro

When a 3 series starts approaching a price of a slightly used 911 you know something in the world is upside down.

[slipperman]

you forgot to throw in the kitchen sink

[Quasimodem]

Originally Posted by Bimmerforlife

I was thinking as far as the price is concerned, the public is only gonna tell it's a diesel by the d on the end of them emblem, everything else about the car is exactly the same as the regular 335i right? So it's not like your neighbor is going to say look everyone at my $55K 3 series.

Is it the engine that warrants the increase in price? Or does BMW think people will be buying these to keep for 10 or more years? I think to really see a savings a person would have to keep this kind of car for more than 4 years.

Why wouldn't BMW price this diesel lower than the regular 335 to encourage people to save money and the environment, they'd sell a whole lot more of them that way. Why go above the price of the regular 335 just because it's a diesel?

Well, for the guy who has to have the latest and greatest, the 335d should have a higher resale value because it is a diesel and less likely to have been abused by the typical 335i boy-racer type who is only concerned about 0 to 60 and how much rubber he can leave on the road.

[positiveions]

no thanks. If I am looking for fuel economy, I'll take a Diesel Jetta. 55k!!!! i have to be on amphetamine and opioids, along with Johnny Walker shot.

[Staszek]

Originally Posted by eatrach73

no thanks. If I am looking for fuel economy, I'll take a Diesel Jetta. 55k!!!! i have to be on amphetamine and opioids, along with Johnny Walker shot.

I am not sure why people are jumping up and down OMG 55k for a 335d when many 335 owners now paid just about that much.

335i sedan I just priced with just about every option except active cruise-$54,020

335d sedan optioned exactly the same -$55,795, you are paying an extra $1775 for a car that's gets 22/33 mpg vs 17/26 and an engine that will probably be close to bullet proof.

Its really what you want more and you make your decision but $1775 isnt a huge difference when financed and I am sure you can deal on that.

I am not saying that 55k is cheap, but these days its in line with the market look how expensive Audi's have become lately.

[tjnptel1]

$55k wtf?

[flyinbrian]

I purchased my loaded M3 for approximately 4900 more than how I would of spec'd out a 335d. I guess I am happy I splurged on the M3 instead of waiting for the diesel. I am sure it is a great car but it makes my M3 seem like such a bargain. I know they are completely different cars but when I purchased my M I went in to get info on the diesel. lol

[CES2009]

$55k is still cheap. A fully loaded 335d in Sweden can easily hit $65-70...and that is without having to ship the car halfway around the world.

[Bimmerforlife]

Originally Posted by CES2009

$55k is still cheap.

I still think it's priced to high if BMW wants this to roll off dealer lots. The way our ecomony look now, $55K is a hefty sum for a 3 series.

Today I filled up with Prem gas for $2.26 but diesel was $2.99

[bud001]

Originally Posted by Insider

It cost more to build the diesel. The engine is built stronger to with-stand the high compression ratio plus the 26psi of stock manifold boost pressure from turbos. Even the twin turbo system is more complicated as there is a small turbo and a large turbo to provide the extra boost. This all adds to the cost.

Not to mention the Blue system, which is made for the American market pretty much because of the stupid CARB rules.

[Quasimodem]

Originally Posted by Bimmerforlife

I still think it's priced to high if BMW wants this to roll off dealer lots. The way our ecomony look now, $55K is a hefty sum for a 3 series.

Today I filled up with Prem gas for $2.26 but diesel was $2.99

Wow, diesel is $2.75 here in Northern California. Nice to see other states are trying to make California fuel prices look cheap.

[535desire]

My 335i Sedan
3.0-liter, turbocharged inline 6-cylinder engine
Rear-wheel drive
Blue Water Metallic $550
Black Dakota Leather $0
Dark Burl Walnut wood trim $0
Cold Weather Package $1,150
Premium Package $2,650
Sport Package $2,150
Sports leather steering wheel with paddle shifters $100
STEPTRONIC automatic transmission $1,325
Navigation system $2,100
Rear manual side window shades with power rear window shade $575
HD radio $0
iPod and USB adapter $400
Logic7 sound system with Surround Sound and Digital Sound Processing $875
Destination & Handling: $825
Total MSRP as Built $52,800

If you subtract the government rebate on the 335d, it's total comes to $54,375. So the diesel is $575 more than the gasser.

BMW invested quite a bit in the engineering for the 335d to be introduced into this market (much more than just the urea injection system), according to club member mapezzul. We're getting a deal on the diesel. Fuel prices are very volatile. 3 months ago the diesel easily beat the gasser on a miles/$ basis. It's very probable that the fuel prices will go back to that again.

So it comes down to actually driving the diesel and comparing it to the gasser. Since very few of the N American posters on this board can claim to have driven both at this time, we should just wait until we have a chance to do so before bashing the idea of a BMW diesel. You only need to look at the number of diesels BMW sells in the rest of the world, and maybe poke around on the UK subforum on this site to see the opinion of those who have driven both.

[F32Fleet]

Originally Posted by Bimmerforlife

It's ready, I just built my 335d

My 335d Sedan
3.0-liter, turbocharged inline 6-cylinder engine
Rear-wheel drive
See all standard features
Base MSRP $43,900
Titanium Silver Metallic $550
Black Dakota Leather $0
Dark Burl Walnut wood trim $0
Cold Weather Package $1,150
Premium Package $2,650
Sport Package $2,150
Sports leather steering wheel with paddle shifters $100
Navigation system $2,100
Rear manual side window shades $575
HD radio $0
iPod and USB adapter $400
Premium hi-fi system $875
Destination & Handling: $825

Total MSRP as Built $55,275


Only playin, I cant' afford that price way to high for a 3 series. I would consider if it was not so expensive up front. Will BMW really sell alot of these? The idea is great just why so expensive?

I was floored by the price increase of the sport pkg, not to mention the de-coupling of Logic 7.

[Runon MD1]

Way too high, not "to" high.

A lot, not "alot."