[psyki]

My car originally came with NBT and a touch iDrive controller, recently I did a full NBT EVO retrofit with a working ATM along with a 10.25" touch screen, everything works great. My understanding is that the iDrive controller in my car is currently on the CAN2 bus but when I plug in the newer controller it does not work.

When I load e-sys it shows the newer controller (ZBE4) and actually reflects the CAFD level, but when I try to read coding data I get an error message. With the original controller plugged in it shows ZBE3 as it should.





I loaded ISTA and I just get code S0393 "No communication possible with: Controller"



Am I wrong in my assumption that my car has the controller on the CAN2 network already? I checked the wiring diagrams and the color coding indicates it is indeed CAN2. The colors of the wires that plug into my controller are the colors in the diagram.



Is there something else I need to do? Or do I need to tap into CAN2?

[atzebmw]

I think the connection is right, because the ZBE4 is visible and the wiring colors are the same.
I only don't understand why there is a CAFD already.
But did you already try to code the ZBE4?

[psyki]

Originally Posted by atzebmw

I think the connection is right, because the ZBE4 is visible and the wiring colors are the same.
I only don't understand why there is a CAFD already.
But did you already try to code the ZBE4?

I did try to code it, got the same error. I also tried using 'Detect cafd for swe' which lets me pick the cafd version but I got the same error as when I tried to read coding data. Is it a faulty unit?

[bmrguy03]

It depends what donor car you got the retrofit from. If it's from the anything but the F30 then it won't work as the new G series use a different method of communicating. I had the same issue when I retrofitted NBT evo into my LCI f30. My donor car was a G30 and everything worked but the controller. I had to buy an updated controller from an f30 and it worked without a problem.

[psyki]

Originally Posted by bmrguy03

It depends what donor car you got the retrofit from. If it's from the anything but the F30 then it won't work as the new G series use a different method of communicating. I had the same issue when I retrofitted NBT evo into my LCI f30. My donor car was a G30 and everything worked but the controller. I had to buy an updated controller from an f30 and it worked without a problem.

Oh really? I just checked the eBay ad, apparently this controller was indeed from a G30 so that probably explains it. Shoot. Leave it to BMW to make identical parts that are incompatible.

[davidwen0414]

You may try to edit the car type into G30. And try to code it.
It might be a solution.

[psyki]

I looked at the G30 wiring diagrams in newtis and the controller is on the CAN4 bus going to the BDC as there is no FEM in later models, also it appears there is no touch controller. It's been debated whether CAN4 can be referred to as a renamed CAN2 depending on the architecture but I dunno, could be there's some different electronics inside the Gxx series controller.

[starmanbl]

Originally Posted by psyki

I looked at the G30 wiring diagrams in newtis and the controller is on the CAN4 bus going to the BDC as there is no FEM in later models, also it appears there is no touch controller. It's been debated whether CAN4 can be referred to as a renamed CAN2 depending on the architecture but I dunno, could be there's some different electronics inside the Gxx series controller.

Hi, sorry to bringing old thread back but I wonder did you ever solve this issue?
I have exactly same issue... If you did fix it can you please share solution...
Thank you

[psyki]

Originally Posted by starmanbl

Hi, sorry to bringing old thread back but I wonder did you ever solve this issue?
I have exactly same issue... If you did fix it can you please share solution...
Thank you

I did not, it seems that the G30 controller is not compatible with F3x.

[driver4f]

https://cartechnology.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=84422

[Adrian_CRG]

is possible to make Gxx controller work in Fxx cars but will require an emulator/can filter.
I have in my F36 the ceramic controller from G11.

[Wibbles]

G series ZBE can be flashed to F series firmware and will work without any emulators.

[z88m]

Hello. Please advise the coding, error -CON 026708-touchpad. Installed the controller iDrive from NBT evo swears that there is no touchpad module, as I understand it. Saw it somewhere, can not find it. car BMW F30 2018.

[smartens]

I installed an iDrive from a 2017 F30 to a 2015 car. It shows up as ZBE4 and I’m seeing this expect problem when try coding it. ISTA shows these two errors:
026708 CON: No current coding data stored
02670B CON: Control unit is not encoded for the vehicle

At the same time the new iDrive works (although with the old pre-LCI button mapping).

Anyone has figured this out?

[Wibbles]

Originally Posted by smartens

I installed an iDrive from a 2017 F30 to a 2015 car. It shows up as ZBE4 and I’m seeing this expect problem when try coding it. ISTA shows these two errors:
026708 CON: No current coding data stored
02670B CON: Control unit is not encoded for the vehicle

At the same time the new iDrive works (although with the old pre-LCI button mapping).

Anyone has figured this out?

easy to fix both issues, drop me a PM for help

[ivanivanusic]

Originally Posted by Wibbles

easy to fix both issues, drop me a PM for help

I have same errors after retrofitting NBT Evo ID6 in my car, F20 PreLci 2015, controller works perfecltz, touch works, new key mapping works (not inverted). I need only to solve these errors.

I get ZBE4 error when trying to read CAFD mapping

[TheNine90]

Use detect SWE for CAF button to manually inject CAFD

[BMWFanaticRob]

If anyone in this post has figured out how to make the ZBE4 work with an F-Series with EVO, please provide instructions and/or the directions on what needs to be done (coding, flashing, etc.) to have it work properly. I've seen posts where folks comment that they can do it, or it's possible, however, I've never actually seen anything that describes what needs to be done.

This would make a lot of F-series folks who are doing the EVO retrofit very, very, happy.

Thanks!!!!

[Zheez]

I didn’t need to do anything on my car. I have a 2015 F30 with retrofitted Evo. Was using the old ZBE3 controller for a while but a few days ago I bought a ZBE4 controller with a 2020 production date. It worked right away without having to do anything.

Just coded Evo to use the new button layout and I injected a CAFD into ZBE4 then coded it to stop ISTA complaining but it hasn’t changed anything in terms of functionality.

Clearly there are some controllers that are KCAN4 that don’t work right away and do need something else to be done. Does anyone know how to determine what these controllers are marked with? I wasn’t sure if my 2020 controller was going to work but luckily it did.

[Elvin86]

hi, I have luck problems on my f34 gt, have changed my nbt to nbt hu and my touch control is showing error on bimmerlink also has the touch module, does anyone know how to fix this

[TheNine90]

Did you code the module?

[Elvin86]

only with bimmercode
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