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      03-11-2020, 07:15 PM   #1
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Disable bi-xenon

I can't seem to find anywhere how to disable bi xenon on my FRM2, the shutter from the xenon is nowhere near as bright as the inner 'flash to pass' bulbs.

Can't seem to figure it out
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Flash to pass should be the same function as high. Isn't it just one shield (per side) that moves out of the way. Probably an illusion from sudden change in output.
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Flash to pass should be the same function as high. Isn't it just one shield (per side) that moves out of the way. Probably an illusion from sudden change in output.
Mine are aftermarket, the inner bulb throws more light than the xenon high beams (shutter)
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Why not run both? for full high beam and flash to pass? MAX POWERRRRRR
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Flash to pass should be the same function as high. Isn't it just one shield (per side) that moves out of the way. Probably an illusion from sudden change in output.
Im pretty sure in mine its the inner beam for flash and HID for full beam because the color temps are obviously different.

As far as brightness I wouldn't say the flash to pass is brighter. It does seem to cast down the center differently but the regular high beam does a much better job of illuminating everything but the center, lighting signs and deer hiding in the bushes, etc.

I wouldn't think disabling for the center beam it is going to make it any safer.
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Why not run both? for full high beam and flash to pass? MAX POWERRRRRR
lmaooo yes I wish there was a way to run them at the same time
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Flash to pass should be the same function as high. Isn't it just one shield (per side) that moves out of the way. Probably an illusion from sudden change in output.
Im pretty sure in mine its the inner beam for flash and HID for full beam because the color temps are obviously different.

As far as brightness I wouldn't say the flash to pass is brighter. It does seem to cast down the center differently but the regular high beam does a much better job of illuminating everything but the center, lighting signs and deer hiding in the bushes, etc.

I wouldn't think disabling for the center beam it is going to make it any safer.
Gotta remember my headlights are aftermarket. I'll see if I can make a video showing the difference when I get off work tonight. I'll let you be the judge
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      03-12-2020, 12:08 PM   #8
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I'm totally interested in the video because my HID high beams are way brighter than my halogen ones. Even though i bought the supposed brightest Sylvania ultrastar or whatever they are called for the "high" beams
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This must be possible. I have a pre-LCI (FRM 1) where pulling the stalk (flash-to-pass) is the halogen bulbs, not the bi-xenons.

I had it coded at one point to use the xenon's for flash-to-pass, but went back because unless they were already ignited, pulling the stalk would only move the shutter... I was probably missing some values that I needed, but it wasn't that important to me so I left it.

I'm not sure if FRM2 presents a different challenge here. If not, coding it should be straightforward. (I can check what I changed for you if you'd like.)
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lmaooo yes I wish there was a way to run them at the same time
Can you not add a relay to achieve this?
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This must be possible. I have a pre-LCI (FRM 1) where pulling the stalk (flash-to-pass) is the halogen bulbs, not the bi-xenons.

I had it coded at one point to use the xenon's for flash-to-pass, but went back because unless they were already ignited, pulling the stalk would only move the shutter... I was probably missing some values that I needed, but it wasn't that important to me so I left it.

I'm not sure if FRM2 presents a different challenge here. If not, coding it should be straightforward. (I can check what I changed for you if you'd like.)
I know FRM1 was able to do it, I was able to code the inner halogens to be my high beams (and flash to pass) until I switched over to FRM2. I've since lost those coding options
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lmaooo yes I wish there was a way to run them at the same time
Can you not add a relay to achieve this?
I didn't think about that. I'm mainly trying to achieve this by coding. I'm considering that route as a last resort
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I'm totally interested in the video because my HID high beams are way brighter than my halogen ones. Even though i bought the supposed brightest Sylvania ultrastar or whatever they are called for the "high" beams
I'll try to remember to take one and upload it tonight. The difference is substantial imo

Edit: After Clammy's fix, Im admittedly too lazy to code it back and make a video. Once again my headlights are aftermarket and were designed with both a shutter (to pair with cheap projectors) as well as a dedicated halogen high beam light. The halogens throw light much further, while the xenon's shutter spreads light to the sides more. Now with Clammy's fix, I have the best of both worlds!
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lmaooo yes I wish there was a way to run them at the same time
I coded my '06 330i to do exactly that.

In the NFRM, find the label PWM_FL_BEI_BIXENON and change both values to wert_01

This gives you the inner halogens, as well as the xenon high beams (shield lifted). It also maintains the inner halogens flash to pass function.

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I coded my '06 330i to do exactly that.

In the NFRM, find the label PWM_FL_BEI_BIXENON and change both values to wert_01

This gives you the inner halogens, as well as the xenon high beams (shield lifted). It also maintains the inner halogens flash to pass function.

Cheers!
Stupid question but this is on FRM1, yes? Judging by MY of your car I assume so, but thought I’d ask
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Stupid question but this is on FRM1, yes? Judging by MY of your car I assume so, but thought I’d ask
Actually, I upgraded to an NFRM (FRM2), for some other options I wanted to enable. I'm not sure if this is possible with an FRM1.

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Actually, I upgraded to a NFRM (FRM2), for some other options I wanted to enable. I'm not sure if this is possible with an FRM1.

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Ah! That would explain the absence of this option for me. Thanks for the info!
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Ah! That would explain the absence of this option for me. Thanks for the info!
Happy to help.

I would highly recommend upgrading to the NFRM. You can find used ones super cheap on Ebay (I did), and then just use WinKFP to code the VIN (I'm not even sure this is required to get it to work, but it's easy, and did it just to be safe), and away you go with NCS Expert.

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lmaooo yes I wish there was a way to run them at the same time
I coded my '06 330i to do exactly that.

In the NFRM, find the label PWM_FL_BEI_BIXENON and change both values to wert_01

This gives you the inner halogens, as well as the xenon high beams (shield lifted). It also maintains the inner halogens flash to pass function.

Cheers!
Worked like a charm! Thanks! Mine was set to wert_03
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Worked like a charm! Thanks! Mine was set to wert_03
Happy to help out. I've gotten SO much help from this forum, that it makes me happy to be able to give back, now and then!

Yeah, I think mine were wert_02 and wert_03. I'd found a document that said to change just wert_02 to wert_01. That did nothing. On nothing but a hunch, I tried changing them both, and BLAMMO! It worked perfectly!

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Worked like a charm! Thanks! Mine was set to wert_03
Happy to help out. I've gotten SO much help from this forum, that it makes me happy to be able to give back, now and then!

Yeah, I think mine were wert_02 and wert_03. I'd found a document that said to change just wert_02 to wert_01. That did nothing. On nothing but a hunch, I tried changing them both, and BLAMMO! It worked perfectly!

Cheers!
That's how I feel as well! But in reverse haha. Interestingly enough I only had to change one as the other didn't exist. It could be because I disabled the adaptive feature.

Hoping this post is useful to someone down the road who might experience the same problem

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That's how I feel as well! But in reverse haha. Interestingly enough I only had to change one as the other didn't exist. It could be because I disabled the adaptive feature.

Hoping this post is useful to someone down the road who might experience the same problem

Cheers!
Ah, that makes sense. I have AHL, and they're enabled. Hence the 2 values! Nice! I've learned yet ANOTHER new thing about my car. Thanks.

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