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      05-16-2019, 11:47 AM   #1
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PRE-LCI E90 Navigation

Hello, I know this might be the newby question but I am fairly new to BMW.

Therefore I noticed how some models have two DVD inserts while my car from 2007 PRE-LCI 318i, has only one and that's for regular DVDs.

Now my question is, I had got "Business Europe Map" or something like that for navigation but where do I insert it as in regular DVD it does not read it.

Any help is appreciated!
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I don’t actually have an idrive car but assuming you do...

Check for other slot in other places
Center console
Trunk
Possibly but just guessing based on past experience with other cars
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the one marked DVD, below the CD player, is the one for navigation DVDs.

it will require you to restart the car after you put a new DVD in.
if the idrive reads the new DVD it will tell you that.

are you trying a burned disc or an OE one?
Burned discs are not 100% reliable and require a very specific burn process to get it on the disc properly.

I used imgburn and the recommended settings from the coding forum here.
IIRC I even used DVD+R discs as opposed to the -R, as that's what the drive is looking for.

You have to remember that the OS running these cars dates way further back than 2008.
it's very picky about what it wants and what it works with.
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the one marked DVD, below the CD player, is the one for navigation DVDs.

it will require you to restart the car after you put a new DVD in.
if the idrive reads the new DVD it will tell you that.

are you trying a burned disc or an OE one?
Burned discs are not 100% reliable and require a very specific burn process to get it on the disc properly.

I used imgburn and the recommended settings from the coding forum here.
IIRC I even used DVD+R discs as opposed to the -R, as that's what the drive is looking for.

You have to remember that the OS running these cars dates way further back than 2008.
it's very picky about what it wants and what it works with.
That is what I was trying to tell, I don't have the second DVD input for navigation.

My car has only one DVD insert and it is not for navigation so I am asking where or does it even have the navigation insert since in the computer it has option for navigation.
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I don’t actually have an idrive car but assuming you do...

Check for other slot in other places
Center console
Trunk
Possibly but just guessing based on past experience with other cars
Mine is 2007 E90 318i (but 2.0 engine) so it's a little bit old I am not sure if they are/were called iDrive from such age.

However the computer in car has navigation page but it doesn't work without DVD being inserted, so I need to know where I can find the DVD insertion (if there is any at all)
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Mine is 2007 E90 318i (but 2.0 engine) so it's a little bit old I am not sure if they are/were called iDrive from such age.

However the computer in car has navigation page but it doesn't work without DVD being inserted, so I need to know where I can find the DVD insertion (if there is any at all)
Ok so it does have nav, i would assume it needs dvd because it came with them. Did you check in center console, glove box, and trunk for another slot? Those are surprisingly common places where cars have them.

Worth a look...
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That is what I was trying to tell, I don't have the second DVD input for navigation.

My car has only one DVD insert and it is not for navigation so I am asking where or does it even have the navigation insert since in the computer it has option for navigation.
take photos of you dash and idrive screen.

do you have CCC professional? business? M-ASK?

if you have the full professional CCC, then the DVD drive in the dash is the one that takes the navigation disc.
I own one.
I've made my own updated DVDs.

the first step in making your system work, is identifying what system you have.
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Ok so it does have nav, i would assume it needs dvd because it came with them. Did you check in center console, glove box, and trunk for another slot? Those are surprisingly common places where cars have them.

Worth a look...
I had taken a look at these you mentioned.

I have found on left side of the trunk some closet where it was "CD manager" and it had 9 slots for each CD and I've put navigation DVD in it and re-run the car but it still said that navigation DVD is not inserted.
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take photos of you dash and idrive screen.

do you have CCC professional? business? M-ASK?

if you have the full professional CCC, then the DVD drive in the dash is the one that takes the navigation disc.
I own one.
I've made my own updated DVDs.

the first step in making your system work, is identifying what system you have.
(Same images are on internet like they are in my car, quite late and I am unable to go the garage since I live in flat)

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Burned disks work fine, but you have to use a specific, high quality disk. Cheap stuff doesn't work at all. I used DVD+RWs, can't remember if it was Sony or Verbatim. I think Verbatim (which was actually DVD+RW DL). I tried both types before I found one that worked. DVD-R definitely do not work.

Paying for 2015 DVDs would be stupid IMO..
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Burned disks work fine, but you have to use a specific, high quality disk. Cheap stuff doesn't work at all. I used DVD+RWs, can't remember if it was Sony or Verbatim. I think Verbatim (which was actually DVD+RW DL). I tried both types before I found one that worked. DVD-R definitely do not work.

Paying for 2015 DVDs would be stupid IMO..
Yes I agree but op doesn’t have the slot to put dvds in. You know where is usually in the front, well it’s not there
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(Same images are on internet like they are in my car, quite late and I am unable to go the garage since I live in flat)

well that certainly does not look like my ccc.
perhaps there was an option available in europe that north america never saw? caue I've never seen the navigation system without the second DVD slot here.

can you download the owner's manual from the BMW website with your vin?
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this is what the wikipedia has to say.

yeah I know.
but it's where google led me.

"iDrive Business (M-ASK)
M-ASK stands for MMI Audio System controller and is manufactured by Becker. This is a limited version of the iDrive computer with a small 6.6" display and is only found on 5, 6 and 7 Series, and the X5 or X6, without the navigation option.

In addition, it can be ordered as an option in Europe on the 1 Series and 3 Series as "Business navigation", which has basic navigation abilities. Early versions of the Business navigation could only display directional arrows, but the latest version can also display 2D maps. iDrive Business Navigation uses a different map DVD than iDrive Professional Navigation. In addition, as only one optical drive is available, one cannot use both navigation and listen to a CD simultaneously.

When iDrive Professional is ordered the M-ASK system is replaced by either the CCC or CIC in addition to a larger display.

iDrive Business is available on the following cars;"

I'm guessing that's what you have there.
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