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      12-27-2018, 11:20 AM   #1
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what do you guys think of this Rare 4 Series?

Hi guys, I am tempted to get this BMW by this weekend and I am worried about just one thing. It is the service history and if it was done specifically by BMW. Otherwise the carfax is clean nothing to worry about there. I could really use experienced advice here about this one if you can. Much appreciated !

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      12-27-2018, 11:25 AM   #2
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Man that car is loaded but it really depends on your preferance. Convertible is heavier than non convertible. 38k for a 30k mile 2015 car. I dont think its that good of a deal tbh. IK6SPEED just sold a 12 piece carbon interior trim set for 1000$. MMPK is ok but BM3 is much better or a jb4 both which are 500$ each. M Brakes are good but can buy brand new for 1.4k-1.6k. 437M oems if those are oems and not reps on the car are another 1600$ ish dollars for the set. I think its a little too expensive tbh. I bought my 2014 335i with 40kish miles for 26k and it came with OEM 437m's eibach springs, full carbon exterior trim etc. I think the deal is okish but nothing spectacular. You can buy a 2015 M3 for like 40-45k. I would rather just buy a M3 instead of paying close to 40k for a 4 series thats about to be 4 years old in a few days lol.
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This deal could be better; not very competitive. The car will be sold based on emotion: red interior, M3 wheels, red calipers, convertible... San Diego ... Pacific Coast Highway.
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That car has very little warranty left if anything at all and it's not a CPO car. So you should probably get a bit knocked off that price. IF you need all those parts, it's not a bad deal if you can bargain a bit. If you don't need them (especially those CF trim pieces), I'd just look for a lower mileage M Sport car with the blue brakes and install whichever parts you want yourself. You can get a better deal and maybe a 2016 CPO car that way.

Also, I wouldn't call this car rare. Everything done to this car is with dealer-installed options. It's just an automatic transmission 435i convertible. Wheels, MPPK, CF trim, brakes, are all possible on any BMW F3x car.
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Don't buy the "rare" thing. Price a offer as you would any other similar aged 4 series.
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Man that car is loaded but it really depends on your preferance. Convertible is heavier than non convertible. 38k for a 30k mile 2015 car. I dont think its that good of a deal tbh. IK6SPEED just sold a 12 piece carbon interior trim set for 1000$. MMPK is ok but BM3 is much better or a jb4 both which are 500$ each. M Brakes are good but can buy brand new for 1.4k-1.6k. 437M oems if those are oems and not reps on the car are another 1600$ ish dollars for the set. I think its a little too expensive tbh. I bought my 2014 335i with 40kish miles for 26k and it came with OEM 437m's eibach springs, full carbon exterior trim etc. I think the deal is okish but nothing spectacular. You can buy a 2015 M3 for like 40-45k. I would rather just buy a M3 instead of paying close to 40k for a 4 series thats about to be 4 years old in a few days lol.
I would remind anyone looking at prices like the above, remember that a $1600ish set of 437m disregards the current set of wheels. If Stock was 403m, then those could be sold for $1200ish for a net difference of $400ish.
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appreciate everybody advice in here. I feel it is a bit too expensive. I would get extended warranty on it after the 50k is up. Its the Red calipers/Red interior/Hard Top conv

these three options is why i'm dying to get it. I have seen a 430i that is a coupe with red interior. How much would it cost to get those red calipers?

I am not a big fan of the rims I would rather go with classic rims than those.

What would you guys do once you know the carfax is clean? I was thinking to call the BMW dealer nearest to them and give them the VIN number to see if they can search up the service history on this car and make sure its all done by a bmw dealer.

I Would take the car at 35k
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      12-27-2018, 12:16 PM   #8
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That car has very little warranty left if anything at all and it's not a CPO car. So you should probably get a bit knocked off that price. IF you need all those parts, it's not a bad deal if you can bargain a bit. If you don't need them (especially those CF trim pieces), I'd just look for a lower mileage M Sport car with the blue brakes and install whichever parts you want yourself. You can get a better deal and maybe a 2016 CPO car that way.

Also, I wouldn't call this car rare. Everything done to this car is with dealer-installed options. It's just an automatic transmission 435i convertible. Wheels, MPPK, CF trim, brakes, are all possible on any BMW F3x car.
Yea i feel they just added extra stuff to it which I honestly dont care for. I just like the drive.

The interior is what I want the most mixed with the hardtop convertible. it is a bit too pricey I feel.

realistically how much do you think I can get it knocked down to? 35k realistic?
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Nothing to say about the car, but I bought my 435i from them and had a great experience! I didn't negotiate fyi. I got a 2014 manual gsm 435i msport for 31k (I think)
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Man that car is loaded but it really depends on your preferance. Convertible is heavier than non convertible. 38k for a 30k mile 2015 car. I dont think its that good of a deal tbh. IK6SPEED just sold a 12 piece carbon interior trim set for 1000$. MMPK is ok but BM3 is much better or a jb4 both which are 500$ each. M Brakes are good but can buy brand new for 1.4k-1.6k. 437M oems if those are oems and not reps on the car are another 1600$ ish dollars for the set. I think its a little too expensive tbh. I bought my 2014 335i with 40kish miles for 26k and it came with OEM 437m's eibach springs, full carbon exterior trim etc. I think the deal is okish but nothing spectacular. You can buy a 2015 M3 for like 40-45k. I would rather just buy a M3 instead of paying close to 40k for a 4 series thats about to be 4 years old in a few days lol.
See i would definitly do M4 or M3 but the V8 turbo I heard is not the best thing in the long run and that car will be very pricey for me to take care off in the long run.

I was advised ( could be wrong advice) that inline v6 is more reliable for a bmw.

Maybe I should just be patient and keep looking for a Red interior/Red caliper/Hard top convertible such as this but I dont know I feel this one is calling me lol.

I can easily afford it but I dont like the 37k price tag. I would prefer 35 but the seller said it is already at a discounted price which is BS to me lol
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Nothing to say about the car, but I bought my 435i from them and had a great experience! I didn't negotiate fyi. I got a 2014 manual gsm 435i msport for 31k (I think)
glad there is somebody on here who has bought from them. I hear nothing but good things about them. Sick whip btw. What color?

How did you go about checking the service history on the car and if it was done by BMW dealers only? I wont get this car if the service wasnt done by BMW.

I hope these guys arent selling me a car that will be a black hole later thats my only fear. otherwise I will hustle day and night to pay off the extra I am paying for it.
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See i would definitly do M4 or M3 but the V8 turbo I heard is not the best thing in the long run and that car will be very pricey for me to take care off in the long run.

I was advised ( could be wrong advice) that inline v6 is more reliable for a bmw.

Maybe I should just be patient and keep looking for a Red interior/Red caliper/Hard top convertible such as this but I dont know I feel this one is calling me lol.

I can easily afford it but I dont like the 37k price tag. I would prefer 35 but the seller said it is already at a discounted price which is BS to me lol
The F80/F82 M3/M4 use an inline 6 twin turbo motor (S55). It's said to be far more reliable than the S65 V8 from the E92 M3.

Here's one with the right color:
BMW 435i Convertible - Autotrader

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Yea i feel they just added extra stuff to it which I honestly dont care for. I just like the drive.

The interior is what I want the most mixed with the hardtop convertible. it is a bit too pricey I feel.

realistically how much do you think I can get it knocked down to? 35k realistic?

I think you could realistically get it to $35k, but I'm not sure what the market is like. It also depends on if the dealer wants to get rid of the car or not.
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Well - you can always make an offer that you can live with.

BTW, red calipers are very easy to obtain and install. These appear to be OEM M Performance brakes sold as an accessory by BMW. If you want the best brakes money can buy, other options are available at a higher price: Brembo, AP Racing Rado-CAL with 6 pistons in the front and 4 pistons in the rear.
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      12-27-2018, 12:48 PM   #14
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Good looking car.
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How did you go about checking the service history on the car and if it was done by BMW dealers only? I wont get this car if the service wasnt done by BMW.
If it was serviced at a BMW service center then it will be on the carfax... all maintenance should of been done on it...if not make sure there is still some factory warranty and get it done (brakes etc...)... but as others have said it's not a biggy deal on the car the way it is set up.......
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I am not a big fan of the rims I would rather go with classic rims than those.
I have a classic set of mint 403m, correct for that model car, I would trade with you
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If it was serviced at a BMW service center then it will be on the carfax... all maintenance should of been done on it...if not make sure there is still some factory warranty and get it done (brakes etc...)... but as others have said it's not a biggy deal on the car the way it is set up.......
https://www.carfax.com/VehicleHistor...3T3C58F5A40478

this is the carfax link here. I could not find it on here. maybe I am missing the detail?

I am going to see what price they can lower it to if I offer cash.
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I have a classic set of mint 403m, correct for that model car, I would trade with you
I'll have to see if I end up getting this car or not. I am worried on the BMW service and if this car really went with it or not.
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The F80/F82 M3/M4 use an inline 6 twin turbo motor (S55). It's said to be far more reliable than the S65 V8 from the E92 M3.

Here's one with the right color:
BMW 435i Convertible - Autotrader




I think you could realistically get it to $35k, but I'm not sure what the market is like. It also depends on if the dealer wants to get rid of the car or not.
nice that one is a bit cheaper and closer to me. I am in the South bay LA area. As one other person mentioned I can easily install those Red calipers. I will offer cash and see what this dealer can do ( the one in san diego)
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If it was serviced at a BMW service center then it will be on the carfax... all maintenance should of been done on it...if not make sure there is still some factory warranty and get it done (brakes etc...)... but as others have said it's not a biggy deal on the car the way it is set up.......
Not all BMW Dealers Service Centers report to Carfax

However they WOULD be in the BMW Database available at a Dealer. If they will share with you considering it’s not your car, that’s a different question.

Worse case scenario, take it by the Dealership and ask for service history on test drive.

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I'll have to see if I end up getting this car or not. I am worried on the BMW service and if this car really went with it or not.
“If this car really went with it or not”

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I have a classic set of mint 403m, correct for that model car, I would trade with you
Make sure they are OEM's and not reps before you trade lol. Rep set is worth like $800 max.
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Not all BMW Dealers Service Centers report to Carfax

However they WOULD be in the BMW Database available at a Dealer. If they will share with you considering it’s not your car, that’s a different question.

Worse case scenario, take it by the Dealership and ask for service history on test drive.



“If this car really went with it or not”
i plan to test drive it this saturday morning. I will just call the BMW dealership that is near them and see what they will say about it.
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