saying goodbye to the F30..

Dreamvillainz · 12-06-2018, 06:19 PM

most likely.

I had a CEL.. took it in yesterday. today they update me..

have to replace:

electric fan: $1130
thermostat/flush cooling system: $650
oil filter housing gasket: $810
coolant expansion tank: $305

so that's around $2800+

I have 4yr/50k warranty too! none of it is covered. wtf. soooooo goodbye.

Kailec · 12-06-2018, 06:37 PM

You're saying goodbye to a car over $3000? That's not a huge amount of money. I'd understand if there was an extra 0 there..

Busa1 · 12-06-2018, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dreamvillainz

most likely.

I had a CEL.. took it in yesterday. today they update me..

have to replace:

electric fan: $1130
thermostat/flush cooling system: $650
oil filter housing gasket: $810
coolant expansion tank: $305

so that's around $2800+

I have 4yr/50k warranty too! none of it is covered. wtf. soooooo goodbye.

How many miles on it?

atlguy · 12-06-2018, 06:49 PM

Holy crap. Why is none of it covered? A leaky housing is covered by every sort of warranty.... Wtf?

Dreamvillainz · 12-06-2018, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Busa1

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dreamvillainz

most likely.

I had a CEL.. took it in yesterday. today they update me..

have to replace:

electric fan: $1130
thermostat/flush cooling system: $650
oil filter housing gasket: $810
coolant expansion tank: $305

so that's around $2800+

I have 4yr/50k warranty too! none of it is covered. wtf. soooooo goodbye.

How many miles on it?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kailec

You're saying goodbye to a car over $3000? That's not a huge amount of money. I'd understand if there was an extra 0 there..

LOL I'm only kidding.. I hope. It just sucks that the warranty they gave me doesn't cover ANY of it.

And barely under 83k.

Gen13 F36 · 12-06-2018, 07:17 PM

3rd party warranty.... need to be read before buying

Dreamvillainz · 12-06-2018, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Gen13 F36

3rd party warranty.... need to be read before buying

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Originally Posted by Gen13 F36

3rd party warranty.... need to be read before buying

It was the CPO plan.. the terms are the 2015 one, that's when I got it.

Maybe BMW goes by their new policy of the warranty.

Smh. gtfo

Wgosma · 12-06-2018, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dreamvillainz

most likely.

I had a CEL.. took it in yesterday. today they update me..

have to replace:

electric fan: $1130
thermostat/flush cooling system: $650
oil filter housing gasket: $810
coolant expansion tank: $305

so that's around $2800+

....$800 = parts & $2K = labor
Break out the tools, none of this work is beyond a person with decent DIY skills, and some willingness to invest time.

Good luck/Bill

jmg · 12-06-2018, 07:50 PM

That doesn't sound outrageous for a german car. Things could be a lot worse. After this, you should be good for awhile.

Solidjake · 12-06-2018, 08:31 PM

jeez..... learn how to fix this stuff yourself. Get the parts from fcp euro and buy some tools if you need to and you'll save a ton

Solidjake · 12-06-2018, 08:34 PM

electric fan: $1130 (667)
thermostat/flush cooling system: $650 (73 borg warner)
oil filter housing gasket: $810 (10)
coolant expansion tank: $305 (123)

+ coolant (20)

so that's around $2800+ (893 for all parts....)

Orion4 · 12-06-2018, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dreamvillainz

most likely.

I had a CEL.. took it in yesterday. today they update me..

have to replace:

electric fan: $1130
thermostat/flush cooling system: $650
oil filter housing gasket: $810
coolant expansion tank: $305

so that's around $2800+

I have 4yr/50k warranty too! none of it is covered. wtf. soooooo goodbye.

Those are all fairly simple straight forward DIYs. Get the parts from FCP or other vendor

jmg · 12-06-2018, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dreamvillainz

most likely.

I had a CEL.. took it in yesterday. today they update me..

have to replace:

electric fan: $1130
thermostat/flush cooling system: $650
oil filter housing gasket: $810
coolant expansion tank: $305

so that's around $2800+

I have 4yr/50k warranty too! none of it is covered. wtf. soooooo goodbye.

Are these dealership prices? Go to a good independent.

Billfitz · 12-06-2018, 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dreamvillainz

electric fan: $1130
thermostat/flush cooling system: $650
oil filter housing gasket: $810
coolant expansion tank: $305

so that's around $2800+

That's easily twice what an indy would charge.

sspade · 12-06-2018, 09:23 PM

Each and every one of those is a SIMPLE DIY.

Excuse my French but... dont be a moron. Find a decent indy or learn to get your hands dirty.

Just trying to be honest!

Dreamvillainz · 12-06-2018, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sspade

Each and every one of those is a SIMPLE DIY.

Excuse my French but... dont be a moron. Find a decent indy or learn to get your hands dirty.

Just trying to be honest!

Haha I know! I'll most likely do it myself or go to a Indy shop.

I'm just mad that the warranty doesn't cover ONE thing. smh.

But yeah, we'll see what happens

Larry77 · 12-07-2018, 12:28 AM

Good indy shop is the way to go, they may even find that a lot of what the dealership is saying needs replaced actually doesn't. DIY is always great, but if you don't have the time or the tools it may be easier just to have a good shop do it for you. Personally my time is more valuable than paying someone who works on BMW's all day and knows what they are doing.

upsidedownfunnel · 12-07-2018, 01:27 AM

You have a 2013? The regular warranty is definitely expired. But your CPO is probably still valid. What do you mean by "2015 terms?" Your car is a 2013. You use the 2013 CPO rules. Did the dealership try to say your CPO is limited? Smells fishy.

If the dealership is trying to say your car uses the 2015 rules, they're lying to you. Unless your CPO is expired, which it shouldn't be, but will be close, you should be getting all these things covered by CPO. You have 6 years from the original in-service date of your car for CPO. Period.

Mouse · 12-07-2018, 07:39 AM

If it's CPO, you can fight it. You won't always win but it's worth a shot. Dealers have the right to make the call if something is not covered by warranty(even if BMW NA says it's covered) doesn't make sense, but it's true. If you argue enough, they will usually cover some if not all of it. I hate that BMW allows dealers to make individual calls rather than a "on paper" coverage but it is what it is.

Other than that, I agree with the others, indy or tackle the job yourself.

IAmATeaf · 12-07-2018, 08:44 AM

Looking at the parts, I don’t understand what the issue might be, can somebody please explain?

Wgosma · 12-07-2018, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by IAmATeaf

Looking at the parts, I don’t understand what the issue might be, can somebody please explain?

Based on my past experience my guess would be his cooling system (overetemp or loss of fluid) caused the CEL - looks like the electric fan has gone kaput along with the thermostat and expansion tank; fan failure is not real common but other cooling items are on Bimmers.

The shop probably spotted a bit of oil leaking at the OFHG and recommended replacing the gasket - that is a rather common leak point on these motors, and has been going way back 18+ years; saw that issue on my E39's. Replacing the 10 buck gasket can be bit of a pain due to having to remove other components to get to it; sometimes the intake manifold presents problems on this part of the work.

He'd be smart to have the tranny fluid changed at his mileage, if he's got an automatic

adhrp · 12-07-2018, 09:08 AM

I thought the thermostat has an extended limited warranty? I got a letter from BMW last year saying so, but then mine is a 2012 328i.

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