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      05-21-2008, 03:10 PM   #1
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Lack of 1st gear acceleration

Just purchased a new manual 2008 335i in New Jersey, pre-ordered with my specs. The concern I have is whether anyone else is experiencing the same problem as me. When I shift into first gear, it feels as if I am pulling a brick. There seems to be no acceleration until I shift into 2nd. How am I supposed to try and duplicate the sub 5 second 60, as advertised with the turbo, if it takes 4-5 seconds to get into 2nd gear? Is 1st gear only for rolling forward? I felt humiliated when a ford focus blew me away at the light. Once in a while, I like a spirited blast. Mind you, I just turned in my 2005 325i after 3 years and also a manual.
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I have a 335i sedan with about 1600 miles now, and I definetly think the 6MT took about 800-1000 miles to break in and become smooth. I honestly don't step on it too hard in 1st anyways because our roads are so rough I don't want to tear up the tires spinning the wheels on them.

But anytime I have it seems pretty fast in 1st. It definitely needs to warm up a bit, I believe the engine management will lower boost before the oil temp gets up there.
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      05-21-2008, 03:34 PM   #4
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you just got it and already trying to hit sub-5 second 0-60 pulls?!? Where did the break in go?
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      05-21-2008, 03:40 PM   #5
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Yeah I kept it below 4000 RPMS for the first 750 miles and 4500 for the first 1200 miles... So I don't know if it would have felt 'slow' doing 0-60 runs during that time. As I understand it, engines break in and as they do they get better mileage and more power.
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Yeah I kept it below 4000 RPMS for the first 750 miles and 4500 for the first 1200 miles... So I don't know if it would have felt 'slow' doing 0-60 runs during that time. As I understand it, engines break in and as they do they get better mileage and more power.
yup, but no clue what's up with the slow accel in 1st gear. to the OP: any long cranks when you start it up? (foreshadow of CEL and bad HPFP)
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For what it's worth, I have a manny 330i that has 26K mi and well broken in and feel the same way. The first gear take off feels like someone is holding the gas pedal back for the first second or two. Would love to know if this is fixable
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you missed the boat on your answer
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I have about 1100 miles on it after 3 weeks, so i may take it to the dealer to have some diagnostics run oon it. you may be right and the issue is just break-in. mind you, when i hit second gear, she becomes a pocket rocket. The Ford Focus ordeal just kind of pissed me off.
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Hmm, honestly I don't know if I've ever done a 5 second or less 0-60 anyways, I think you'd really have to beat on the car to do that. Much to my chagrin, I think the automatic transmission is better at pulling off fast times without beating on the drivetrain.

I know on the mazda speed3 for example the engine is limited to 75% boost in 1st gear to prevent wheel spin.. is it possible this could be true in this car?
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I put about 500 mile on it per week and now have close to 1100, so i only tried the sub 5 run after the incident with the focus.
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Try CDV modified, it will definetely help
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I will wait until 2000 miles miles before i try the sub 5 run. However, when starting in 2nd gear from a light, she can fly.
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no cranking issues
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I assume you're not getting alot of DSC intervention? That would obviously kill your acceleration, but you'd also notice the DSC light flashing like crazy on the dash.
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I have about 1100 miles on it after 3 weeks, so i may take it to the dealer to have some diagnostics run oon it. you may be right and the issue is just break-in. mind you, when i hit second gear, she becomes a pocket rocket. The Ford Focus ordeal just kind of pissed me off.
Yeah.... I have not been driving it hard, but I can say the other day a 07 or 08 GTI took off in the lane next to me like we were going to race (I wasn't even paying attention to him), he spun his wheels and then got 2-3 carlengths ahead before I pushed down the pedal in 1st and by the time I was done w/ 2nd I was 2 carlengths ahead of him... pushing the pedal down about 2500 RPM into 1st gear was definetly a jolt so it didn't feel slow at all.
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For what it's worth, I have a manny 330i that has 26K mi and well broken in and feel the same way. The first gear take off feels like someone is holding the gas pedal back for the first second or two. Would love to know if this is fixable
once you find out let me know, because i'll be damned if i let a Hyundai run me off the road after the focus already has. hell i might as well hang up my fob.
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once you find out let me know, because i'll be damned if i let a Hyundai run me off the road after the focus already has. hell i might as well hang up my fob.
uhh, was this an SVT focus??
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Try CDV modified, it will definetely help
Did I fail to mention that this is a leased vehicle prohibiting any mods.
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1st gear is a very short one. maybe that's why it feels slow. you should really only get to about 30-40mph before hitting the redline. and the redline arrives *really* fast. so you get a lot of engine noise and drama for relatively slow speeds.

you should hit 60mph in 2nd so i think what you're experiencing is pretty normal.
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Hmm, honestly I don't know if I've ever done a 5 second or less 0-60 anyways, I think you'd really have to beat on the car to do that. Much to my chagrin, I think the automatic transmission is better at pulling off fast times without beating on the drivetrain.

I know on the mazda speed3 for example the engine is limited to 75% boost in 1st gear to prevent wheel spin.. is it possible this could be true in this car?
the issue will be addressed by the dealer, but the lag on a bi-turbo should not be discernable
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uhh, was this an SVT focus??
no a teenager in a base model with a lead foot
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