10-10-2017, 01:55 PM | #1 |
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Brake pad wear
Just had new pads fitted front and rear after less than 36k miles. Although this is my first automatic car and even allowing for the reduced engine braking, I seem to have gone through these pads at an alarming rate. How have the rest of you got on?
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10-11-2017, 04:47 AM | #2 |
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Same here - even worse! I changed my front ones at 26k! Still I did not get a warning message on the rear ones
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10-12-2017, 01:52 PM | #4 |
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Front and rear at 25k or so! Yikes! Also, I have been getting brake dust on my rear lift gate that eats through the paint. BMW repainted under warranty and it appears to be happening again. What are they making these pads out of!?
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04-15-2018, 12:27 PM | #7 |
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Did you guys swap out both pads and rotors? I'm at 45k kms and the dealer wants to replace both. This seems way earlier than my previous cars.
It also seems like no one is making upgrade rotors / pads yet for the F48s. I looked at stoptechs, powerstop, EBC, etc. |
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Aftermarket parts aren't very widely available. ECS Tuning has stoptech front pads. Pelican Parts has Pagid rear pads. ATE has pads and rotors. Strange that there aren't more choices yet. Maybe because the cars are still mostly under warranty.
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04-15-2018, 02:40 PM | #9 |
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With only 5.5K miles since the end of December I certainly hope I will get 50K miles out of a set of pads. But I have noticed I have to brake more often than I did in my old automatic E Class Estate. The X1 certainly feels it free wheels more which perhaps helps with the fuel economy (about 40 MPG on a run).
The car certainly gets dirty more quickly than my old M-B! Nigel |
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04-15-2018, 03:04 PM | #10 |
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I just had my first service at 14,500 miles, and the brake pad wear was measured as follows:
Front pads - 34% worn (i.e. 66% remaining) Rear pads - 42.5% worn The tyres are down to 4mm at the front and 6mm at the back... The service guy said that the rear brakes get more use due to the xDrive system; I don't drive fast or hard, and most of my driving is around town, so quite a bit of stop/start. |
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04-16-2018, 09:06 AM | #11 |
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http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho....php?t=1258420
Found this interesting read, for anyone looking to maybe upgrade once their pads are out. I've only had my X1 for less than 2 months and I'm at 5k miles. After reading your guys' posts it seems I should expect to change my brake pads by the end of the year? lol |
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04-20-2018, 05:46 AM | #13 |
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At 25,5 K kilometers it shows that in another 3K it will need front pads.
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04-22-2018, 03:01 AM | #14 |
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Yup, Murphy's Law came to pass, I'm at the 3000 wear level. Which is going to be interesting as my 3000 probably equates to at least double that. I'm reckoning at least 50K miles before the change.
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Changed front pads yesterday at 27537 kilometers. I had 40 left according to the on board measurement.
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BMW 2018 X1 needed new brakes with just under 25,000 km.
We have had five other BMWs and an Acura SUV and never required brakes to be replaced before 55,000 km or at all during a four year lease. Cost $1,000 Cdn (for rear rotors and parking break). Consumer Reports also notes only systemic problem issue with 2018 X1 is brakes. BMW needs to step up and take care of its customers. This seems problematic with the BMW X1. |
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I've talked to the BMW tech, they said the X1 DSC is very sensitive and is constantly braking the wheels to improve driving characteristics. I've been driving with it off now since then. Since this is a front wheel based all wheel drive car, the vehicle has been very stable during the turns for me. It more stable than a 3 series with DSC on.
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And of course you shouldn't follow the advice if you don't care about your brake wear or not good at driving. Any respectable driver will tell you DSC is there to babysit people who can't control their feet in tough situations. It's there to cut power. It's always fun to watch amateur M3 drivers going no where in the rain when they try to race an Subi as their DSC cut power to their wheel. But of course that's still better than that amateur M3 driver killing themselves by losing control launching in the rain. Too many drivers think they know how to drive. At the end, it's your responsibility to learn to handle your car well. I've been driving this car in sunny, rain, and snow with DSC off for 2 years now, never had I feel as much danger as driving a similarly powered rear wheel based platform like the 3 series with DSC on. Last edited by lonegun; 10-17-2020 at 04:08 PM.. |
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@lonegun , while I'm sure you're an excellent driver, I'm equally sure you've never been confronted by the need to do an emergency lane change maneuver on a wet motorway at speed. If you had, I know for sure that you would never advocate — let alone practice — driving around on public roads with DSC off. No advanced driving instructor that I know suggests this — on a race track or private road, sure, understand the unassisted handling and response of your car, but on a public road — never!
I also suspect you might want to read up on the action/effects the various active safety systems of the xDrive X1 — especially the interactions of the stability control system, the traction control moderation, Haldex AWD system and automatic differential brake. There are very good reasons BMW incorporated them into the car, as I'm sure the BMW tech will tell you, if he didn't already. None of those reasons include "increasing brake pad wear so that owners must replace more frequently, to BMW's profit" — that's just an inevitable consequence. DSC in these cars is several generations more advanced than the early ESP systems; it is no longer the case that cars handle "better" with these systems turned off, and to believe so is folly and very, very dangerous — to the extent that if you cause an accident while driving with such safety systems disabled, you may find yourself (a) unisured; and (b) criminally liable in the event of death/injury caused to another. If you really wish to learn and understand the value of these systems, enroll in one of BMW's driver courses — the "M" Experience or — specifically for the X series — the X series Snow and Ice experience. They're very, very good — as well as teaching us how to enjoy these cars, they also demonstrate the cars' awesome capabilities.
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