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      04-24-2017, 10:09 AM   #1
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Buying 4 Series Gran Coupe – need advice

Hi Guys,

I am currently on an E92 – 320d Sport Edition on a 62 plate. For practical reasons (from two to now three!) I am looking for a 4 series GC. I like diesels so my first preference was to hunt for a decent 435d! Found one (approved used), went for a test drive, and found an odd clonking noise from the front suspension – it had an active suspension - a 64 plate car approx. 25K miles, but with all possible extras (the normal plus heated steering wheel, surround view, rear view camera, adaptive Head lights, HK stereo, MSports breaks – a fully spec’ed car that is) – instantly put a deposit – now the dealer is saying new front struts are needed. The car is well within my budget.

2nd option - Found a brand-new Sport GC – delivery miles only – money is same – rather £500 less. Of course, limited extras – no x drive, but has pro Nav, sports transmission with flappy paddles, 19” wheels, my fav mineral grey color….black leather with red stitching (my wife liked it a lot! I can live with it as well)

If I try to search another 435d, the good ones (with all extras I am after) are way out of my budget.
So now the question is should I wait for the dealer to fix 435d and take the chances? – I am anxious that why an approved used car with only 25k miles needed new struts! May be there is some issue with the car – I have also been reading some horror stories around active suspension – in particular F30s, F32 and F36 built in 2013 – 2014. I am worried that the car might give me trouble again in the future. I will be ok until the car is under warranty for an year at least, but in future, I would have to get additional warranty for my own peace of mind….

Now what I should do….get a nearly Brand New 420d Sport coupe with delivery miles….or wait for 435d to get fixed.

Looking for some advice here.

Thanks

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There is a software update for the knock on Adaptive suspension. That will probably fix it.
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There is a software update for the knock on Adaptive suspension. That will probably fix it.
I like the 4 series alot, and the 3, but what is the point in a 4 grand coupe?? Isn't the idea of a 4 series a 2 door 3??? Just seems like an expensive 3 series to me lol
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I like the 4 series alot, and the 3, but what is the point in a 4 grand coupe?? Isn't the idea of a 4 series a 2 door 3??? Just seems like an expensive 3 series to me lol
I suspect this might have been said at the start of every single review of the car THREE YEARS ago. And pretty much all of them ended with a thumbs up for the car.
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I like the 4 series alot, and the 3, but what is the point in a 4 grand coupe?? Isn't the idea of a 4 series a 2 door 3??? Just seems like an expensive 3 series to me lol
I suspect this might have been said at the start of every single review of the car THREE YEARS ago. And pretty much all of them ended with a thumbs up for the car.
Dont get me wrong i like the car, i just think ide save myself a few bob and get an even better 3 series
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Dont get me wrong i like the car, i just think ide save myself a few bob and get an even better 3 series
Thing is, the 4 series isn't more expensive if you're loading up a 3 series with options, especially new on a pcp.

Residuals slightly better, interest rate 2% lower (worth about £40 a month) and lots of the options on a 3 series are standard on 4 series. Pro nav, heated seats, memory seats.

Only time a 3 series is better value is if you don't load it with options. Otherwise, there is very little in it.
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Ps. I ordered and cancelled a 340i with only m sport plus and storage pack as options.

I cancelled and ordered a 4 GC with just the same options. It is £30 a month more than the 3 would have been, but, I have pro nav, heated and memory seats. 3 Series would have cost more per month with those added.
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Dont get me wrong i like the car, i just think ide save myself a few bob and get an even better 3 series
Thing is, the 4 series isn't more expensive if you're loading up a 3 series with options, especially new on a pcp.

Residuals slightly better, interest rate 2% lower (worth about £40 a month) and lots of the options on a 3 series are standard on 4 series. Pro nav, heated seats, memory seats.

Only time a 3 series is significantly better value is if you don't load it with options. Otherwise, there is very little in it.
Oh right i got you.. Im out of touch with all that pcp, i got a bank loan for my car lol.. but they are a nice looking car..
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My reason for picking 4 GC over 3 series saloon is 4's boot is larger (more practical for family use) plus I find 4 series aesthetically more balanced and attractive looking car..... those doors with frame less windows just look awesome - 4 series is wider and longer hence more presense on the road and the list continues!
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Hi Guys,

I am currently on an E92 – 320d Sport Edition on a 62 plate. For practical reasons (from two to now three!) I am looking for a 4 series GC. I like diesels so my first preference was to hunt for a decent 435d! Found one (approved used), went for a test drive, and found an odd clonking noise from the front suspension – it had an active suspension - a 64 plate car approx. 25K miles, but with all possible extras (the normal plus heated steering wheel, surround view, rear view camera, adaptive Head lights, HK stereo, MSports breaks – a fully spec’ed car that is) – instantly put a deposit – now the dealer is saying new front struts are needed. The car is well within my budget.

2nd option - Found a brand-new Sport GC – delivery miles only – money is same – rather £500 less. Of course, limited extras – no x drive, but has pro Nav, sports transmission with flappy paddles, 19” wheels, my fav mineral grey color….black leather with red stitching (my wife liked it a lot! I can live with it as well)

If I try to search another 435d, the good ones (with all extras I am after) are way out of my budget.
So now the question is should I wait for the dealer to fix 435d and take the chances? – I am anxious that why an approved used car with only 25k miles needed new struts! May be there is some issue with the car – I have also been reading some horror stories around active suspension – in particular F30s, F32 and F36 built in 2013 – 2014. I am worried that the car might give me trouble again in the future. I will be ok until the car is under warranty for an year at least, but in future, I would have to get additional warranty for my own peace of mind….

Now what I should do….get a nearly Brand New 420d Sport coupe with delivery miles….or wait for 435d to get fixed.

Looking for some advice here.

Thanks

US
Personally having been in the position of owning a remapped 318d to 320d power and now having a 435d I would go for the the 435d all day long. Yes the 420d is a brand new car but it's not the more desirable m sport and as good as the 20d engine is the 6 cylinder is just something else in my opinion. Ok so it's a few years old but it's got all the options in it and lowish miles too. As mentioned above the issues on the suspension have been dealt with now via a software update.
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