Oil change coming up on 15k miles

silverm0623 · 03-27-2017, 06:58 PM

I have a '13 Activehybrid 3. Bought the car at 30k miles and according to the service records, I'll be at one year since my last oil change but only about 14.5k miles in, so not quite 15k miles. My CBS states that I have over 3k miles to go until my "next scheduled oil change". Thought I had read somewhere that BMW used to do one oil change a year once you hit either 15k miles or one year. Called the BMW near me and the SA said to just follow the CBS but they've been questionable on their knowledge on BMW's guidelines before. Does anyone know what the revised rule is on this?

jparnes1 · 03-27-2017, 07:59 PM

Yes they will do a "low mileage oil change" at one year and not reset the service indicator. Also the service interval for BMWs now is 10k miles. Is 2013 not included in this?

insanecoder · 03-27-2017, 08:02 PM

15,000 miles its way overdue for an oil change if you want to be the longterm owner...I dont care what that supposed BMW counter says.
10,000 is the max for me and even then I'd change the filters at least in between.
The fact they shortened it form 15,000 to 10,000 shows bmw corporate doesnt know what its doing.. and supposedly its tranny oil is lifetime.. BS

Billfitz · 03-27-2017, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jparnes1

Yes they will do a "low mileage oil change" at one year and not reset the service indicator.

They should reset it. The interval is the (vehicle specific) mileage or one year. whichever comes first. My first oil change was at 4900 miles, the second at 8700 miles, one and two years after purchase.

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My CBS states that I have over 3k miles to go until my "next scheduled oil change".

The miles to go is a guesstimate. If it hits the year mark first that will supersede the mileage.

silverm0623 · 03-27-2017, 10:26 PM

it's disturbing then that when i brought it in last month to get the right bumper camera replaced, they didn't even mention an oil change

so re-reading this: http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=868291

seems to state that since mine was produced May 2013, it falls under the 24month/15,000 mile oil change system. is that correct? i'm just not sure if this is an "official" guideline that was later redacted or something?

jmg · 03-28-2017, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by silverm0623

it's disturbing then that when i brought it in last month to get the right bumper camera replaced, they didn't even mention an oil change

so re-reading this: http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=868291

seems to state that since mine was produced May 2013, it falls under the 24month/15,000 mile oil change system. is that correct? i'm just not sure if this is an "official" guideline that was later redacted or something?

Yes that's correct as far as I know. If I were you I would just pay for another oil change. What's $120 for piece of mind and a healthy car?

Billfitz · 03-28-2017, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by jmg

What's $120 for piece of mind and a healthy car?

Twice what you should pay.

Four times if you do it yourself.

insanecoder · 03-28-2017, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Billfitz

Twice what you should pay.

Four times if you do it yourself.

OEM/Castrol Oil and filter running me ~$60 .. so twice anyway

Polo08816 · 03-28-2017, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by insanecoder

OEM/Castrol Oil and filter running me ~$60 .. so twice anyway

BMW LL-01 approved 5qts. of Castrol Edge 0w-40 is about $26 at Walmart.

That's what I use.

chiefneil · 03-28-2017, 10:12 AM

There might be a different calculation/interval for the AH if it can run on pure electric some of the time. E.g. If you've done 5,000 miles on pure electric then you've only logged 9.5k miles on the engine out of 14.5k total. And they might be "easy" miles if the AH works like other hybrids and uses electric-only for the short low-speed trips. I have no clue how the AH works though, just speculating.

Anyway, starting with the F30 they do reset the service indicator for the 12 month low-mileage oil change.

tturedraider · 03-28-2017, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by silverm0623

it's disturbing then that when i brought it in last month to get the right bumper camera replaced, they didn't even mention an oil change

so re-reading this: http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=868291

seems to state that since mine was produced May 2013, it falls under the 24month/15,000 mile oil change system. is that correct? i'm just not sure if this is an "official" guideline that was later redacted or something?

I'm not aware of there ever being a 24 month interval. The longest they've ever stated was 18 months, but that didn't last long until they backed it back down to 12 months.

bavarianride · 03-28-2017, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by tturedraider

I'm not aware of there ever being a 24 month interval. The longest they've ever stated was 18 months, but that didn't last long until they backed it back down to 12 months.

2013 and 2014 F30 are 24-month/15k-mile OCI.

bavarianride · 03-28-2017, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by silverm0623

it's disturbing then that when i brought it in last month to get the right bumper camera replaced, they didn't even mention an oil change

so re-reading this: http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=868291

seems to state that since mine was produced May 2013, it falls under the 24month/15,000 mile oil change system. is that correct? i'm just not sure if this is an "official" guideline that was later redacted or something?

My car is 2013 too, and the OCI is 24 month/15000 miles. In addition there is an annual low-mileage oil change@12 months.

So my car had 6 oil changes within 4-yr/50k-mile maintenance:

12 months/9k
14 months/12k
26 months/22k
32 month/25k
44 months/35k
46 months/38k

My CBS OCI is around 14-15 months, 13k miles.

Since out of warranty my car gets half interval oil change, say, 7-8 months/6-7k miles.

etinifni · 03-28-2017, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Billfitz

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Originally Posted by jmg

What's $120 for piece of mind and a healthy car?

Twice what you should pay.

Four times if you do it yourself.

BMW Value service is usually $70-$80.

jmg · 03-28-2017, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by etinifni

BMW Value service is usually $70-$80.

I stand corrected. I've never paid for it.

bavarianride · 03-28-2017, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by etinifni

BMW Value service is usually $70-$80.

Yes my local dealer charges $80 + tax for 5L of 0w30 + OEM filter.

Billfitz · 03-28-2017, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by etinifni

BMW Value service is usually $70-$80.

I've never used it, still being under the service plan. But while trying to book my latest appointment on line the site thought I was booking for paid service. I was quoted $182 for an oil change, and $72 for a set of wipers. I can't believe anyone would pay those prices, but I guess some must, not knowing any better.

etinifni · 03-28-2017, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jmg

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Originally Posted by etinifni

BMW Value service is usually $70-$80.

I stand corrected. I've never paid for it.

Honestly it's just more convenient to pay the extra bit of money to have the dealer do an oil change. I don't have to worry about waste plus having the dealer take care of it establishes a solid record for resale value.

silverm0623 · 03-29-2017, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefneil

There might be a different calculation/interval for the AH if it can run on pure electric some of the time. E.g. If you've done 5,000 miles on pure electric then you've only logged 9.5k miles on the engine out of 14.5k total. And they might be "easy" miles if the AH works like other hybrids and uses electric-only for the short low-speed trips. I have no clue how the AH works though, just speculating.

Anyway, starting with the F30 they do reset the service indicator for the 12 month low-mileage oil change.

That's actually a good point, I often go on "pure" battery power when going driving through my neighborhood to and from work and in cities so that would make sense that SOME of my miles is "battery" miles, although I don't think it's more then maybe a couple thousand or so. But if the CBS takes that into account, I can see why it's saying to change it at a bit over 15k miles.

Anyways, I was able to contact another dealer and they said to bring it on in since I'm at the one year mark so I'll be able to get this old oil out of it. Also plan on doing a Blackstone test to see how bad or good the oil is at 15k miles.

chiefneil · 03-29-2017, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by silverm0623

Anyways, I was able to contact another dealer and they said to bring it on in since I'm at the one year mark so I'll be able to get this old oil out of it. Also plan on doing a Blackstone test to see how bad or good the oil is at 15k miles.

Glad you found a dealer to change your oil. If it's not covered under free maintenance you can also get it done at an Indy for a bit less (my Indy charges about $100-$120 for our X5).

Post your oil analysis when you get it, I'd be curious to see the results. The analysis on my own break-in oil is posted in the thread "interim oil change" that was active last week.

Bill97z · 03-29-2017, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by etinifni

BMW Value service is usually $70-$80.

I heard value service uses a lower quality filter and oil?

etinifni · 03-29-2017, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill97z

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Originally Posted by etinifni

BMW Value service is usually $70-$80.

I heard value service uses a lower quality filter and oil?

Not sure if you're serious.

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silverm0623 Private First Class 22 Rep 126 Posts Drives: 2013 335iH Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Las Vegas, NV iTrader: (1)	it's disturbing then that when i brought it in last month to get the right bumper camera replaced, they didn't even mention an oil change so re-reading this: http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=868291 seems to state that since mine was produced May 2013, it falls under the 24month/15,000 mile oil change system. is that correct? i'm just not sure if this is an "official" guideline that was later redacted or something? Last edited by silverm0623; 03-27-2017 at 10:32 PM..
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chiefneil Lieutenant Colonel 772 Rep 1,502 Posts Drives: 2014 335i M-Sport Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Arizona iTrader: (0)	There might be a different calculation/interval for the AH if it can run on pure electric some of the time. E.g. If you've done 5,000 miles on pure electric then you've only logged 9.5k miles on the engine out of 14.5k total. And they might be "easy" miles if the AH works like other hybrids and uses electric-only for the short low-speed trips. I have no clue how the AH works though, just speculating. Anyway, starting with the F30 they do reset the service indicator for the 12 month low-mileage oil change.
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