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      09-06-2016, 09:50 AM   #1
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What are some real world results on how long Pilot Super Sports last on a RWD 335i? I have seen some 30k reviews online....

I scrapped my original RE050A's at 50k. Since I don't really drive my car in the winter, I would estimate the snows have taken 7k if that, so I got 43k on the RE050A's. My hunch is it's not realistic to expect a PSS to do that. But by Michelin's standards, a 300 treadwear is pretty generous....I know you cannot cross-compare them among different mfgs, but the RE050A's are 140....
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Driven even somewhat agressively you should get 25-30k from the rear PSS. I posted this previously:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...494&page=3
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Driven even somewhat agressively you should get 25-30k from the rear PSS. I posted this previously:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...494&page=3
Thanks that's encouraging....(guess the guy with the 458 complaining they were shot in 3,800 was an anomaly!)
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22-24k for rears here with -2.5 negative camber previously, which was too aggressive IMO.
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I got20-25k typically from the rears. 30-35k fronts. Got under 15k for both sets of continentals and various others I had in max summer category. Set #11 tire wise. &ad 4 pss sets. Best I've had. Also had kumho & bridgestone. I'm on Bridgestone Potenza RE11 tires now as I need more grip. Hoping to get 15k. Hoping. Lol.
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I got20-25k typically from the rears. 30-35k fronts. Got under 15k for both sets of continentals and various others I had in max summer category. Set #11 tire wise. &ad 4 pss sets. Best I've had. Also had kumho & bridgestone. I'm on Bridgestone Potenza RE11 tires now as I need more grip. Hoping to get 15k. Hoping. Lol.
On my FWD Maxima I did a real world test--I did NOT rotate my tires. The fronts were shot in a mere 22k (these were Kumho Ecsta 4X's. By measuring the tread depth, this showed that the fronts wear almost 3X faster than the rears on that car, the rears were at 8/32")....

It was mentioned here very very long ago how treadwear cannot be used across brands, which I have found from experience to be the case. Note the PSSs are 300 AA A, yet the RE050A's are 140 A A. Still, seems that the RE050As potentially last longer...
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I had re050a and really couldn't wait to get them off. This was on an infiniti g35 I had. At the time I switched to ps2 tires and they were at the time the best. As for treadwear I don't remember. But I do know the pss have double the warrantied treadle of the rest of the group so I would expect that to be a real way to test vs other tires in the category. My pss have always lasted 50%+ longer than any of the others I've tried.
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18,000 on rears with staggered setup. At 27,000 on fronts with 4/32 left. Close to change on the fronts. I just had to replace one of the fairly new rears (8200 miles) due to sidewalk puncture. It had 6/32 left.
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18,000 on rears with staggered setup. At 27,000 on fronts with 4/32 left. Close to change on the fronts. I just had to replace one of the fairly new rears (8200 miles) due to sidewalk puncture. It had 6/32 left.
After 2 sets I think this is about right. Figure 20k for the rears and you can be happy if you do better. Don't forget that there is a difference between a tire being "done" and the driver being done with the tires. EVERY high performance summer tire I have ever run has lost grip, ride quality and has gotten loud well before the tread became unsafe to drive on them.

Perfect example - First non-factory tires I had on this car were Yokohama AD08's. My favorite tire by a long shot - easily better than the PSS. However, they are great for 5-7k miles, become miserable to drive on and pretty much done by 10k.
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Are you talking about the RE050A RFT? 43k miles out of those is amazing. I got 17k miles out of the original RE050A RFT rears on my 135is before they were down to 4/32 and they were already getting squirrely at that tread depth.
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