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M40CCA · 07-16-2016, 09:38 AM

Really getting drawn into swapping the 335d for a m3

Been offered 36k for mine at Williams BMW which is 1k more than I paid for it 3 months ago

My only problem is I do around 20k a year business miles, is this going to devalue a M3 a lot quicker in say 2yrs than it would a 2yr 335d with 40k on the clock

JustChris · 07-16-2016, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by M40CCA

Really getting drawn into swapping the 335d for a m3

Been offered 36k for mine at Williams BMW which is 1k more than I paid for it 3 months ago

My only problem is I do around 20k a year business miles, is this going to devalue a M3 a lot quicker in say 2yrs than it would a 2yr 335d with 40k on the clock

Yes realistically, but YOLO, I had same mileage didn't really matter. How are you trading in +1k!

mikeoz · 07-16-2016, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by M40CCA

Really getting drawn into swapping the 335d for a m3

Been offered 36k for mine at Williams BMW which is 1k more than I paid for it 3 months ago

My only problem is I do around 20k a year business miles, is this going to devalue a M3 a lot quicker in say 2yrs than it would a 2yr 335d with 40k on the clock

That does seem a dam good px price

M40CCA · 07-16-2016, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by JustChris

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Originally Posted by M40CCA

Really getting drawn into swapping the 335d for a m3

Been offered 36k for mine at Williams BMW which is 1k more than I paid for it 3 months ago

My only problem is I do around 20k a year business miles, is this going to devalue a M3 a lot quicker in say 2yrs than it would a 2yr 335d with 40k on the clock

Yes realistically, but YOLO, I had same mileage didn't really matter. How are you trading in +1k!

The 36k is just what the salesman quoted me for my spec with 2,000 miles on the clock

I haven't looked how to finance the m3 yet the 335d is on HP

JD6 · 07-16-2016, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by M40CCA

The 36k is just what the salesman quoted me for my spec with 2,000 miles on the clock

I haven't looked how to finance the m3 yet the 335d is on HP

It does sound as if he has put some of the M3 discount in to the part ex price, to make it more attractive. I assume he wouldn't offer you anything like £36k in a stand alone deal. If he does then bite his hand off!

M40CCA · 07-16-2016, 10:56 AM

What discounts available on m3

JD6 · 07-16-2016, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by M40CCA

What discounts available on m3

Coast to Coast have £7,200 off the basic spec, but I think you can do a lot better than that, which is probably why so many have switched recently.

42law · 07-16-2016, 11:27 AM

I think around the 53/54 mark for a CP is achievable.

DazC · 07-16-2016, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by M40CCA

Really getting drawn into swapping the 335d for a m3

Been offered 36k for mine at Williams BMW which is 1k more than I paid for it 3 months ago

My only problem is I do around 20k a year business miles, is this going to devalue a M3 a lot quicker in say 2yrs than it would a 2yr 335d with 40k on the clock

I will be doing 20k pa in my M4. You only live once like Chris said.

You should aim for at least 18% off the M but i wonder how much discount from the M3 he's ploughed into your 335d offer to make it more appealing sounding.

Id ask him straight out what you need and ask if hes using M3 discount to sweeten your 335d.

robwils · 07-16-2016, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DazC

I will be doing 20k pa in my M4. You only live once like Chris said.

You should aim for at least 18% off the M but i wonder how much discount from the M3 he's ploughed into your 335d offer to make it more appealing sounding.

Id ask him straight out what you need and ask if hes using M3 discount to sweeten your 335d.

I guess he's using the discount, if mines only lost 1k then I'd swap tomorrow.
Rob

225 · 07-16-2016, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by robwils

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Originally Posted by DazC

I will be doing 20k pa in my M4. You only live once like Chris said.

You should aim for at least 18% off the M but i wonder how much discount from the M3 he's ploughed into your 335d offer to make it more appealing sounding.

Id ask him straight out what you need and ask if hes using M3 discount to sweeten your 335d.

I guess he's using the discount, if mines only lost 1k then I'd swap tomorrow.
Rob

Gained 1k!

notused · 07-16-2016, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by M40CCA

My only problem is I do around 20k a year business miles, is this going to devalue a M3 a lot quicker in say 2yrs than it would a 2yr 335d with 40k on the clock

Are business miles reimbursed? If so, who cares, you're getting to enjoy an M3 for a whole 20k miles a year AND getting some money towards it.

Mark1966 · 07-16-2016, 03:33 PM

Watch out how they dress the deal.

You should be able to get £10k ish min off of an M3 and if they are quoting you full retail for the M3 and giving you £5k over book for your px you are effectively being greased up for some botty action.

Look at the overall deal is my advice.

CazuaLLUK · 07-16-2016, 03:42 PM

Your 335d is awesome, don't make me even more jealous with an M3!

M40CCA · 07-16-2016, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RWDpetrol

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Originally Posted by M40CCA

My only problem is I do around 20k a year business miles, is this going to devalue a M3 a lot quicker in say 2yrs than it would a 2yr 335d with 40k on the clock

Are business miles reimbursed? If so, who cares, you're getting to enjoy an M3 for a whole 20k miles a year AND getting some money towards it.

My business miles are all put through my business and reimbursed

M40CCA · 07-16-2016, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark1966

Watch out how they dress the deal.

You should be able to get £10k ish min off of an M3 and if they are quoting you full retail for the M3 and giving you £5k over book for your px you are effectively being greased up for some botty action.

Look at the overall deal is my advice.

I will be wanting full discount first before my part ex value is taken off the deal

Chompers · 07-16-2016, 04:23 PM

M3/4 deals are starting to firm up. All 2016 allocation has been allocated to the dealers and they are unable to swap models. Unless further allocation frees up towards the end of the year, deals are going to firm up IMO. Or you'll have to take a particular spec a given dealer has. If you're thinking of doing something, I'd do it sooner rather than later

DazC · 07-16-2016, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Chompers

M3/4 deals are starting to firm up. All 2016 allocation has been allocated to the dealers and they are unable to swap models. Unless further allocation frees up towards the end of the year, deals are going to firm up IMO. Or you'll have to take a particular spec a given dealer has. If you're thinking of doing something, I'd do it sooner rather than later

Agreed. if your looking to place an order this year my view is that deals will become less appealing. it's already moved to 5.9% Apr and with less build slots available this year there will be less room to negotiate the really good deals.

Like I mentioned previously 18% min discount is what I'd target and then introduce the part ex of your 335d into the equation. if your still getting offered £36k then it's happy days all round.

robwils · 07-17-2016, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by 225

Gained 1k!

Yes read it right, I was putting into into perspective meant to bold the "lost" bit.

Rob

JustChris · 07-17-2016, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Chompers

M3/4 deals are starting to firm up. All 2016 allocation has been allocated to the dealers and they are unable to swap models. Unless further allocation frees up towards the end of the year, deals are going to firm up IMO. Or you'll have to take a particular spec a given dealer has. If you're thinking of doing something, I'd do it sooner rather than later

Agree with this. I wouldn't hold out for £10k off a lightly specd car as I don't t hunk it's going to happen? The big discounts have gone I'm afraid. Early this Qtr might otherwise a great time to approach an M3 deal but why not!

Chompers · 07-17-2016, 05:52 AM

IMO BMW managed the M4 deals earlier in the year poorly, it was supposed to help disappointed potential M2 buyers. They caused the issue by giving a chunk of support, this in addition to Deposit allowances and a dealer network keen to hit targets, this enabled the TRL deals. I can't see these happening again. M3's already have less support than M4's again to 'soften' the M2 issue. Add in the delay in cars spec'd with individual paint and we find deals hardening. Well done to the guys that jumped on the TRL deal.

notused · 07-17-2016, 06:48 AM

I think BMW manage it all very well ie how they introduce offers, remove them and manage stock of both parts and cars. The TRL deals were great but I'm sure there was a strategy to it all eg a few months of offers to run out parts before MY 2017 kicked in.

Likewise early this year there was a glut of individual colour M3s pre-registered that just didn't make sense at the price they were up for, but they're almost all gone now.

I also think there will be more great offers in a quarter or two. There's no such thing as it will never happen again. You can still get 10% off without even asking.

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Chompers Colonel 1155 Rep 2,727 Posts Drives: F31 320d MSport (M) BS /CR Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Co. Down iTrader: (0)	IMO BMW managed the M4 deals earlier in the year poorly, it was supposed to help disappointed potential M2 buyers. They caused the issue by giving a chunk of support, this in addition to Deposit allowances and a dealer network keen to hit targets, this enabled the TRL deals. I can't see these happening again. M3's already have less support than M4's again to 'soften' the M2 issue. Add in the delay in cars spec'd with individual paint and we find deals hardening. Well done to the guys that jumped on the TRL deal. __________________ Curent: F31 335d xDrive MSport Individual TB / OW Merino Gone: F31 320d MSport BS /CR, E61 520d MSport Bus Ed, E53 X5 V8 Sport
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notused Captain 306 Rep 633 Posts Drives: none Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: none iTrader: (0)	I think BMW manage it all very well ie how they introduce offers, remove them and manage stock of both parts and cars. The TRL deals were great but I'm sure there was a strategy to it all eg a few months of offers to run out parts before MY 2017 kicked in. Likewise early this year there was a glut of individual colour M3s pre-registered that just didn't make sense at the price they were up for, but they're almost all gone now. I also think there will be more great offers in a quarter or two. There's no such thing as it will never happen again. You can still get 10% off without even asking.
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