F36

MashinBenzin · 07-15-2016, 08:27 AM

I'm toying with adding a sunroof to my imminent 4GC order. Can anyone who owns one with a sunroof comment on how much headroom they rob please?

Dyl · 07-15-2016, 08:57 AM

Hardly anything, this was my concern when I was getting mine.

I'm 6 foot with quite short legs, the wife who is shorter than me has to have the seat further back when she is driving, so all my height is in my body and I have no issues at all.

Unless you are well over 6 foot you'll be totally fine.

creepy coupe · 07-15-2016, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BristolMotorSpeedway

I'm toying with adding a sunroof to my imminent 4GC order. Can anyone who owns one with a sunroof comment on how much headroom they rob please?

I borrowed a GC for the weekend. and hit my head on the sunroof surround a couple of times. I'm 5.11". I had the drivers seat on the lowest position.

My F32 has a roof, but the seats are set much lower, so it's no problem.

MashinBenzin · 07-15-2016, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Dyl

Hardly anything, this was my concern when I was getting mine.

I'm 6 foot with quite short legs, the wife who is shorter than me has to have the seat further back when she is driving, so all my height is in my body and I have no issues at all.

Unless you are well over 6 foot you'll be totally fine.

Thanks, much appreciated. I'm 5'11, middling legs, so it sounds like it shouldn't be an issue then :-)

MashinBenzin · 07-15-2016, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by creepy coupe

I borrowed a GC for the weekend. and hit my head on the sunroof surround a couple of times. I'm 5.11". I had the drivers seat on the lowest position.

My F32 has a roof, but the seats are set much lower, so it's no problem.

Ah, maybe a problem then! Thanks for the info, I guess the only solution is to track an AUC down and sit in it...

creepy coupe · 07-15-2016, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BristolMotorSpeedway

Ah, maybe a problem then! Thanks for the info, I guess the only solution is to track an AUC down and sit in it...

Another thing you might consider. When slid back, the roof is very noisey above 50mph. If I were specing again. I'd save the £800 and spend it on something else. My 10 year old Mazda 's roof is much quieter at 80mph.

I call mine the £800 folly.

Dyl · 07-15-2016, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by creepy coupe

My F32 has a roof, but the seats are set much lower, so it's no problem.

Your F32 seats are lower than those in an F36... Not sure how that is possible?! Were you definitely in a GC not a GT?

Well I've never banged my head, but yeah, might be worth trying for yourself before you pull the trigger.

I don't have mine open too often but I love how it floods the cabin with light.

MashinBenzin · 07-15-2016, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by creepy coupe

Another thing you might consider. When slid back, the roof is very noisey above 50mph. If I were specing again. I'd save the £800 and spend it on something else. My 10 year old Mazda 's roof is much quieter at 80mph.

I call mine the £800 folly.

Cheers, how is the soundproofing with it closed? My main reason for adding it would be to add light to the interior, the fresh air on a (rare) nice day would just be a bonus.

JNW1 · 07-15-2016, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by creepy coupe

Another thing you might consider. When slid back, the roof is very noisey above 50mph. If I were specing again. I'd save the £800 and spend it on something else. My 10 year old Mazda 's roof is much quieter at 80mph.

I call mine the £800 folly.

I guess it depends what your motive is for wanting a sunroof! When I went for the panoramic roof on my F31 is was to increase light in the cabin as opposed to ventilation and it does that job very successfully. It's not too bad from a noise point of view in the tilt position but you wouldn't want to go very quickly with the roof slid open; however, I never expected to use it that way so it's not a problem to me.

Personally I think the M-Sport cars can be quite oppressive inside if you have black leather in conjunction with the anthracite headlining and a glass sunroof does a good job of lifting the cabin ambience IMO. My E92 335i (bought used) had black leather with piano black trim; the original owner had specced active cruise and many was the time I cursed them for not speccing a glass sunroof instead!

creepy coupe · 07-15-2016, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by BristolMotorSpeedway

Cheers, how is the soundproofing with it closed? My main reason for adding it would be to add light to the interior, the fresh air on a (rare) nice day would just be a bonus.

If just for light and you don't mind a bit of crack it fine.Sound proofing in no problem.

creepy coupe · 07-15-2016, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Dyl

Your F32 seats are lower than those in an F36... Not sure how that is possible?! Were you definitely in a GC not a GT?

Ere yes.

The coupe roofline is a bit lower to the GC. I do definitely sit lower in mine.

Biogeny · 07-15-2016, 10:16 AM

I am 6'3" and it was touching my head in the GC and so I have ordered it without, It seemed the roofline was a good 3cm lower.

I believe that the 4 and the GC are identical up to the back of the drivers door and they just carry on the roofline for a further 12cm and so the seating position is the same in both.

the F31 seats feel much higher when you get out of one and get into the 4-I think i's because both the car and the seats are 1cm lower but it feels like you are sitting bolt upright in the f31 afterwards even when subjectively you are not.

creepy coupe · 07-15-2016, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Biogeny

I am 6'3" and it was touching my head in the GC and so I have ordered it without, It seemed the roofline was a good 3cm lower.

I believe that the 4 and the GC are identical up to the back of the drivers door and they just carry on the roofline for a further 12cm t.

The GC roof line is 15.00mm higher at its highest point

The coupe doors are much longer than the GC. So if what you say is correct the GC roof line will dip away much sooner and thus bring it closer the the driver head.

Biogeny · 07-15-2016, 10:27 AM

the marketing bobbins says they are identical to A pillar but 4gc roof 2cm higher and then swoops from 12cm further back.

Just passing on my thoughts from sitting in it, I didn't feel GC had less headroom than a 4 and a sunroof took too much out of the roof for someone of my height.

Dyl · 07-15-2016, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by creepy coupe

The coupe roofline is a bit lower to the GC. I do definitely sit lower in mine.

Na, I'm not having that... http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=941922

"Max front headroom... same as coupe"

You mustn't of had the seat at the lowest position in the GC

creepy coupe · 07-15-2016, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Dyl

Na, I'm not having that... http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=941922

"Max front headroom... same as coupe"

You mustn't of had the seat at the lowest position in the GC

The max head room is up near the windscreen, where they might well be the same.

Dyl · 07-15-2016, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by creepy coupe

I states 1389mm CG ....1377 Coupe.

Yes and you are saying there is less head room.

I am taller than you you and get in a GC every day that has a sunroof and I have never once banged my head on it.

You get a coupe with a sunroof and don't bang your head and they are both quoted by BMW as having the same head room. The seats in your car are not lower.

All i'm suggesting is that you didn't have the seat in its lowest position. You can't have.

creepy coupe · 07-18-2016, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Dyl

Yes and you are saying there is less head room.

I am taller than you you and get in a GC every day that has a sunroof and I have never once banged my head on it.

You get a coupe with a sunroof and don't bang your head and they are both quoted by BMW as having the same head room. The seats in your car are not lower.

All i'm suggesting is that you didn't have the seat in its lowest position. You can't have.

Trust me the seat was in its lowest position. While I had the GC on loan i let a work mate take it for a spin. He ended up buying a 3GT because of the lack of headroom. He also messed about with the seat height and tried every conceivable seat combo. forward/backward, because he has a family.

He was gutted an still thinks the GC would have been a better car.

Don't forget a persons height isn't that accurate. You're taller than me. But you might have a shorter torso, which is the bit that counts.

Dyl · 07-18-2016, 04:02 AM

I'm guessing you didn't read this...

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Originally Posted by Dyl

I'm 6 foot with quite short legs, the wife who is shorter than me has to have the seat further back when she is driving, so all my height is in my body and I have no issues at all.

creepy coupe · 07-18-2016, 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Dyl

I'm guessing you didn't read this...

I can only go by my first hand experience. Which was mine and another lad the same height as me.

gr4z · 07-18-2016, 04:51 AM

I have a F36 and a sunroof - I love it. I am 5'11" and its fine for me. Aside from the recent very warm weather I use it almost every day either open at the tilt or fully open. Its great and I don't care its a bit noisy, all sunroofs are! Just turn up the stereo.

Nobby Clark · 07-18-2016, 05:21 AM

I checked this weekend...I'm 5'10" and I'd say of standard proportions. With my seat in it's highest position, there is about an inch space between my head and the roof.

I give my boss a lift to work sometimes, he's pretty lanky and 6'4". He's never bumped his head off the roof.

Hope this helps.

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Dyl Captain 433 Rep 778 Posts Drives: 4GC Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Greater Manchester/Edinburgh iTrader: (0)	Hardly anything, this was my concern when I was getting mine. I'm 6 foot with quite short legs, the wife who is shorter than me has to have the seat further back when she is driving, so all my height is in my body and I have no issues at all. Unless you are well over 6 foot you'll be totally fine.
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Biogeny Private First Class 21 Rep 130 Posts Drives: F36 430i GC Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Surrey iTrader: (0)	I am 6'3" and it was touching my head in the GC and so I have ordered it without, It seemed the roofline was a good 3cm lower. I believe that the 4 and the GC are identical up to the back of the drivers door and they just carry on the roofline for a further 12cm and so the seating position is the same in both. the F31 seats feel much higher when you get out of one and get into the 4-I think i's because both the car and the seats are 1cm lower but it feels like you are sitting bolt upright in the f31 afterwards even when subjectively you are not.
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Biogeny Private First Class 21 Rep 130 Posts Drives: F36 430i GC Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Surrey iTrader: (0)	the marketing bobbins says they are identical to A pillar but 4gc roof 2cm higher and then swoops from 12cm further back. Just passing on my thoughts from sitting in it, I didn't feel GC had less headroom than a 4 and a sunroof took too much out of the roof for someone of my height.
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gr4z Colonel 1135 Rep 2,808 Posts Drives: i4 e40 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Stamford iTrader: (0)	I have a F36 and a sunroof - I love it. I am 5'11" and its fine for me. Aside from the recent very warm weather I use it almost every day either open at the tilt or fully open. Its great and I don't care its a bit noisy, all sunroofs are! Just turn up the stereo. __________________ Current: G26 i4 M Sport Pro, Tech Pk, Sunroof Previous: 2016 440i MPPSK, 2014 330d Saloon F30, 2013 Audi S4 Avant, 2011 Mercedes C350
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Nobby Clark Lieutenant Colonel 759 Rep 1,863 Posts Drives: F36 430d xDrive M Sport Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Scotland iTrader: (0)	I checked this weekend...I'm 5'10" and I'd say of standard proportions. With my seat in it's highest position, there is about an inch space between my head and the roof. I give my boss a lift to work sometimes, he's pretty lanky and 6'4". He's never bumped his head off the roof. Hope this helps.
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