Oil recommendation

Will maddox · 04-06-2016, 07:08 AM

What do you guys use in yours as a daily. I see that opie oils offer a c3 spec oil for the 335i
But using the search function just turns up alot of American threads

I was tempted when I saw Miller nanodrive ee longdrive

Iv used alot of Millers stuff before and rate them

What would you recommend?

Phil325i · 04-06-2016, 09:12 AM

Any good quality fully synthetic marked as achieving BMW LL04 spec will be fine.

Dann · 04-07-2016, 01:29 AM

As above.
Oil is oil so as long as BMW have given it approval it makes no odds

Iyrix · 04-07-2016, 02:11 AM

Castrol - LL04 - changed every 8k/10k on my 330d.

Aragorn30d · 04-07-2016, 01:48 PM

My local harry fairbairn BMW dealer does 20L of LL04 5w30 C3 oil for about £50.

Its an off-brand, but if the dealer are selling it and it meets LL04 then i'm happy with it in my engine.

I change my oil every 5k anyway, so makes quite a difference when an oil change costs me £25 rather than £70-80 using Castrol or whatever.

Will maddox · 04-08-2016, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Aragorn30d

My local harry fairbairn BMW dealer does 20L of LL04 5w30 C3 oil for about £50.

Its an off-brand, but if the dealer are selling it and it meets LL04 then i'm happy with it in my engine.

I change my oil every 5k anyway, so makes quite a difference when an oil change costs me £25 rather than £70-80 using Castrol or whatever.

Thanks for that dude, what is the brand?
That's sounds like a good idea

I was toying with just giving it the dealership and letting them doing it for £150+ which also keeps the service history up to date

Aragorn30d · 04-08-2016, 08:59 AM

IIRC the brand is "Ultratec"

Never heard of it before and they dont seem to have a website. Google suggests its an own-brand of a Motorfactor.

Soul_Glo · 04-08-2016, 12:07 PM

Mobil 1 0w30 (ESP) here. Love it!

jimbo666 · 04-08-2016, 05:06 PM

Costco have 5lt of Castrol Edge 0w-30 LL-04 for 25.90 at the moment.

mob17 · 04-09-2016, 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aragorn30d

My local harry fairbairn BMW dealer does 20L of LL04 5w30 C3 oil for about £50.

Its an off-brand, but if the dealer are selling it and it meets LL04 then i'm happy with it in my engine.

I change my oil every 5k anyway, so makes quite a difference when an oil change costs me £25 rather than £70-80 using Castrol or whatever.

I usually use Mobil and yeah, costs me £60-70 each time, every 5-8k

But your way does tempt me. Is oil definitely oil? Ie does Mobil oil have any additional things in their oil, compared to the cheap stuff from BMW, that makes it better for the engine?

Dann · 04-09-2016, 01:56 AM

I have my oil done every 12 months at BMW (my local one uses Castro)
I also have it changed every 6 months at national tyres who use Fuchs (£45 including a Mann filter)

Phil325i · 04-09-2016, 03:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Broken_Gearbox

Mobil 1 0w30 (ESP) here. Love it!

I've often thought about that oil, but according to the Mobil 1 website, it doesn't have the BMWLL04 approval. Only their 5W-30 has that...

Soul_Glo · 04-09-2016, 04:10 AM

I've used it for the the last 12,000 miles with no issues for two oil changes carried out by Rybrook Warwick who didn't mind me providing the oil.

http://www.mobil.co.uk/UK-English-LC...esp-0w30.aspx#

I prefer it to Castrol. It has better specs than it too. BMW had a longstanding partnership with Mobil1 in the 80s and 90s. Lord knows why they switched over to Castrol.

Phil325i · 04-09-2016, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Broken_Gearbox

Lord knows why they switched over to Castrol.

I think it had something to do with Castrol's sponsorship of the Williams F1 team when they used BMW engines back in the early 2000s.

Will maddox · 04-09-2016, 07:13 AM

Iv seen a few companies on eBay that sell ll04 oil by 20l drums. They seem to be family run business all made in England aswell.

Is there a loophole in the advertising
Because iv seen some that say ll04 spec
And some Say bmw approved oil ll04

Soul_Glo · 04-10-2016, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Will maddox

Iv seen a few companies on eBay that sell ll04 oil by 20l drums. They seem to be family run business all made in England aswell.

Is there a loophole in the advertising
Because iv seen some that say ll04 spec
And some Say bmw approved oil ll04

If it is approved it will be on the list:

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=478344

Aragorn30d · 04-10-2016, 01:17 PM

LL04 is a standard.

You can produce an oil to that standard, and state that its "LL04 spec" or "Meets the requirements of LL04"

To get approval you have to submit your oil to BMW, along with a healthy fee, for them to test it and give you the "approval", which then lets you advertise it as "LL04 approved"

The cheaper oils arent going to be approved, it costs too much for a small outfit, and eats into the profit margins for the budget brands. But that doesnt mean the oil is bad, or doesnt meet the specs.

I guess theres a possibility that they're outright lying on the front of the carton, saying it meets LL04 when it doesnt, but i'm not sure thats particularly likely...

For example EuroCarParts sells their TripleQX oil which meets LL04: http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/p/ca...6062&0&cc5_247

Its not approved, but it meets the spec so whats the issue? Unless you think they are lying...

Yoxall · 04-10-2016, 02:22 PM

I put Mobil 5/30 ESP when I first got my 335d as I wanted 1 of the best oils in my car. Even with a discount it cost about £80 for 10 litres.

Which is a lot of money seeing as I've done 10k in 2/3 months.

For the next service I shopped about and doing a bit of reasearch on the web, and speaking to people in the trade, the triple QX oil 5/30 is aperently made by shell and is meant to be a very good oil for the price.

I paid £37 I think for 10 litres at Euro car parts.

More than half the price than Mobil 1.

Is the triple QX really half the quality of the Mobil 1?

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04-07-2016, 01:29 AM	#3
Dann Major 133 Rep 1,381 Posts Drives: E90 LCi 335i Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Portsmouth, United Kingdom iTrader: (0)	As above. Oil is oil so as long as BMW have given it approval it makes no odds
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04-07-2016, 02:11 AM	#4
Iyrix Lieutenant 100 Rep 476 Posts Drives: F30 330d & 335i Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	Castrol - LL04 - changed every 8k/10k on my 330d.
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04-07-2016, 01:48 PM	#5
Aragorn30d Lieutenant Colonel 175 Rep 1,596 Posts Drives: E90 330d Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Fife iTrader: (0)	My local harry fairbairn BMW dealer does 20L of LL04 5w30 C3 oil for about £50. Its an off-brand, but if the dealer are selling it and it meets LL04 then i'm happy with it in my engine. I change my oil every 5k anyway, so makes quite a difference when an oil change costs me £25 rather than £70-80 using Castrol or whatever.
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04-08-2016, 08:59 AM	#7
Aragorn30d Lieutenant Colonel 175 Rep 1,596 Posts Drives: E90 330d Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Fife iTrader: (0)	IIRC the brand is "Ultratec" Never heard of it before and they dont seem to have a website. Google suggests its an own-brand of a Motorfactor.
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04-08-2016, 12:07 PM	#8
Soul_Glo Major General 13347 Rep 7,484 Posts Drives: G20 Join Date: May 2013 Location: Manhattan, NYC iTrader: (1)	Mobil 1 0w30 (ESP) here. Love it!
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04-08-2016, 05:06 PM	#9
jimbo666 Private First Class 10 Rep 163 Posts Drives: E90 330d Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Northampton iTrader: (1)	Costco have 5lt of Castrol Edge 0w-30 LL-04 for 25.90 at the moment.
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04-09-2016, 01:56 AM	#11
Dann Major 133 Rep 1,381 Posts Drives: E90 LCi 335i Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Portsmouth, United Kingdom iTrader: (0)	I have my oil done every 12 months at BMW (my local one uses Castro) I also have it changed every 6 months at national tyres who use Fuchs (£45 including a Mann filter)
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04-09-2016, 04:10 AM	#13
Soul_Glo Major General 13347 Rep 7,484 Posts Drives: G20 Join Date: May 2013 Location: Manhattan, NYC iTrader: (1)	I've used it for the the last 12,000 miles with no issues for two oil changes carried out by Rybrook Warwick who didn't mind me providing the oil. http://www.mobil.co.uk/UK-English-LC...esp-0w30.aspx# I prefer it to Castrol. It has better specs than it too. BMW had a longstanding partnership with Mobil1 in the 80s and 90s. Lord knows why they switched over to Castrol.
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04-09-2016, 07:13 AM	#15
Will maddox Private 6 Rep 80 Posts Drives: Bmw e92 335i m sport Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Staffordshire iTrader: (0)	Iv seen a few companies on eBay that sell ll04 oil by 20l drums. They seem to be family run business all made in England aswell. Is there a loophole in the advertising Because iv seen some that say ll04 spec And some Say bmw approved oil ll04
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04-10-2016, 01:17 PM	#17
Aragorn30d Lieutenant Colonel 175 Rep 1,596 Posts Drives: E90 330d Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Fife iTrader: (0)	LL04 is a standard. You can produce an oil to that standard, and state that its "LL04 spec" or "Meets the requirements of LL04" To get approval you have to submit your oil to BMW, along with a healthy fee, for them to test it and give you the "approval", which then lets you advertise it as "LL04 approved" The cheaper oils arent going to be approved, it costs too much for a small outfit, and eats into the profit margins for the budget brands. But that doesnt mean the oil is bad, or doesnt meet the specs. I guess theres a possibility that they're outright lying on the front of the carton, saying it meets LL04 when it doesnt, but i'm not sure thats particularly likely... For example EuroCarParts sells their TripleQX oil which meets LL04: http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/p/ca...6062&0&cc5_247 Its not approved, but it meets the spec so whats the issue? Unless you think they are lying...
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04-10-2016, 02:22 PM	#18
Yoxall Yox335d 40 Rep 280 Posts Drives: Bmw 335d Msport 91 Touring Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Wirral iTrader: (1)	I put Mobil 5/30 ESP when I first got my 335d as I wanted 1 of the best oils in my car. Even with a discount it cost about £80 for 10 litres. Which is a lot of money seeing as I've done 10k in 2/3 months. For the next service I shopped about and doing a bit of reasearch on the web, and speaking to people in the trade, the triple QX oil 5/30 is aperently made by shell and is meant to be a very good oil for the price. I paid £37 I think for 10 litres at Euro car parts. More than half the price than Mobil 1. Is the triple QX really half the quality of the Mobil 1?
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