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      04-02-2016, 12:48 AM   #1
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No Adaptive Headlights

Have to buy a $3,250 package to get rid of the horrible halogen headlights and the LEDs you get aren't even adaptive. Dang!
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      04-02-2016, 09:22 AM   #2
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Have to buy a $3,250 package to get rid of the horrible halogen headlights and the LEDs you get aren't even adaptive. Dang!
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Have to buy a $3,250 package to get rid of the horrible halogen headlights and the LEDs you get aren't even adaptive. Dang!
Where are you from ?
USA. Get cornering lights but they are not the same as adaptive.
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Have to buy a $3,250 package to get rid of the horrible halogen headlights and the LEDs you get aren't even adaptive. Dang!
Where are you from ?
USA. Get cornering lights but they are not the same as adaptive.
Well, here inIsrael we have the full LED option, I'm not sure those are adaptive, I will tell once I get my car )
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Have to buy a $3,250 package to get rid of the horrible halogen headlights and the LEDs you get aren't even adaptive. Dang!
Where are you from ?
USA. Get cornering lights but they are not the same as adaptive.
Well, here inIsrael we have the full LED option, I'm not sure those are adaptive, I will tell once I get my car )
They won't be adaptive.
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Have to buy a $3,250 package to get rid of the horrible halogen headlights and the LEDs you get aren't even adaptive. Dang!
Where are you from ?
USA. Get cornering lights but they are not the same as adaptive.
Well, here inIsrael we have the full LED option, I'm not sure those are adaptive, I will tell once I get my car )
They won't be adaptive.
Man !! Let me have some hope
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LED headlights are adaptive. They work at a certain speed range and steering angle. Either your headlights are faulty or you're doing something wrong.
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Can't they be coded to full adaptive? That's what I did with my f80.
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LED headlights are adaptive. They work at a certain speed range and steering angle. Either your headlights are faulty or you're doing something wrong.
not true on the X1
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      04-02-2016, 12:02 PM   #10
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not true on the X1
LED headlights on X1s in the UK are adaptive. However they do rely on the halogen foglights as low-speed cornering lights, rather than the dipped (low) beam changing direction.

I wonder if the adaptive function is disabled in the USA to meet local legislation? Discussion on other forums regarding a recent report on poor headlights suggests that they are constrained by regulations.
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I thought the cornering lights are little LEDs in the corner of the cluster that illuminate "outwards"?

I thought that was what was meant by "adaptive"?
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not true on the X1
Incorrect. I should know. I've been driving one for six months. Headlights swivel, expand and/or narrow the beam ONLY when in auto mode and in accordance with your speed, steering angle and yaw. It's all in the manual.


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LED headlights on X1s in the UK are adaptive. However they do rely on the halogen foglights as low-speed cornering lights, rather than the dipped (low) beam changing direction.
Only the halogen headlight models use fog lamp as cornering light. LED ones have their own dedicated LED bulb inside the headlight unit. Switches on in auto mode and only at speeds of 5~25mph with either turn indicator on or steering wheel turned by more than 10 degrees.
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Happy to be corrected in interests of getting the right answer

However, BMW's website shows the halogens coming on as part of their description of the adaptive lighting on the X1: (Image 3 in the sequence)

http://www.bmw.com/_common/shared/ne...d-design-1.jpg
http://www.bmw.com/_common/shared/ne...d-design-2.jpg
http://www.bmw.com/_common/shared/ne...d-design-3.jpg
http://www.bmw.com/_common/shared/ne...d-design-4.jpg

The text is ambiguous:
" If required, the extended functions of the LED headlights with cornering lights offer a bright and efficient Bi-LED light for low beam and high beam. The cornering lights in LED technology allow an adaptive beam distribution with increased illumination of the side of the road in urban traffic."
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not true on the X1
Incorrect. I should know. I've been driving one for six months. Headlights swivel, expand and/or narrow the beam ONLY when in auto mode and in accordance with your speed, steering angle and yaw. It's all in the manual.


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LED headlights on X1s in the UK are adaptive. However they do rely on the halogen foglights as low-speed cornering lights, rather than the dipped (low) beam changing direction.
Only the halogen headlight models use fog lamp as cornering light. LED ones have their own dedicated LED bulb inside the headlight unit. Switches on in auto mode and only at speeds of 5~25mph with either turn indicator on or steering wheel turned by more than 10 degrees.
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OEM foglights have a much warmer colour temperature and should be very easy to notice the yellow colour when they're switched on. Cornering light in comparison has the same tint as the headlight beam (cool white with a slight blue tint). It also has a much better range and brightness compared to the fog lights.

RE BMW's text, I'm convinced they use psychological torture experts and dodgy politicians to compile and proof read their text. I don't think I've ever read anything in their brochures and on their websites that didn't make me ask myself "WTF did I just read" afterwards!
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I thought the cornering lights are little LEDs in the corner of the cluster that illuminate "outwards"?

I thought that was what was meant by "adaptive"?
That is not adaptive. Adaptive headlights turn and follow around curves and up and down hills. You can tell you have them by the way they dip up and down when turned on.
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OEM foglights have a much warmer colour temperature and should be very easy to notice the yellow colour when they're switched on. Cornering light in comparison has the same tint as the headlight beam (cool white with a slight blue tint). It also has a much better range and brightness compared to the fog lights.

RE BMW's text, I'm convinced they use psychological torture experts and dodgy politicians to compile and proof read their text. I don't think I've ever read anything in their brochures and on their websites that didn't make me ask myself "WTF did I just read" afterwards!
Completely right! (Including text )

Here's a photo of mine: (Fortunately they work when stationary, so I didn't have to run backwards at 5mph!).
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Hello! Back to the forum (happy driver of a f20 125i). I placed an order today for an X1 with LED. I have just a few days to modify some options. So the question is: is there a high-beam assist as well (normally included in drive assist packages) with the LED or does the adaptive LED make the high-beam assists useless?
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      04-02-2016, 04:38 PM   #20
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Anyone know what the Australian spec cars get?
We get "LED headlights with extended features" in Australia. That includes LED cornering lights and high beam assist. So far, they seem pretty good to me. I've had adaptive bi-xenon lights in a previous car, non-adaptive bi-xenons in my M135i; the LEDs in the X1 compare pretty favorably thus far, but LEDs seem less "intense" than xenon beams.
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We get "LED headlights with extended features" in Australia. That includes LED cornering lights and high beam assist. So far, they seem pretty good to me. I've had adaptive bi-xenon lights in a previous car, non-adaptive bi-xenons in my M135i; the LEDs in the X1 compare pretty favorably thus far, but LEDs seem less "intense" than xenon beams.

Cheers, thanks for that.
Could i just clarify the term "cornering lights" - are they just another light which switches on to illuminate the front corner you are turning towards?
(i.e. not adaptive, which would turn the head light in the direction of travel based on fancy measurements)
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Just part of the LED array that is enabled when cornering. It's all described in the manual, which was posted in one of the stickies above
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